19-yr-old school girl gangraped in Auto, 7 year old raped in School, Call Center employe gang raped

[Joel thakkar]

Country : India

1) 19 Year Old School Girl Gang raped in Auto Rickshaw (Ride share public transport)

She was a last year high school student. Three men gangraped her. After raping her in the vehicle, the men dragged the 19-year-old out into the fields and again raped her, taking turns. NDTV (news channel) quoted the woman saying that she cried for help for two hours but no one came forward to help her.


Source : http://in.news.yahoo.com/19-yr-old-school-girl-gangraped-in-moving-auto-114004900.html


2) 7 Year Old Raped in Government School
She was in school. While she was taking lunch, someone grabbed her and sexually assaulted her.

Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videoshow/18749215.cms

3) Call centre employee abducted and gangraped

She was gangraped at gun point while in the car and then dumped at an old bus-stand.

Source : http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/gangrape-in-moving-car-call-centre-employee-abducted-in-gurgaon/1/256813.html

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Some of you may know the December 2012 Delhi Gang Rape case and the protest which erupted after that. Still, after all these things, rapes have increase by 124% in Delhi (India's Capital)

In 2012, Jan-Feb : 110 Rape Cases were registered in Delhi
In 2013, Jan-Feb : 247 Rape Case were registered in Delhi


Incidents of molestation also rose by 558% as 586 cases were registered in comparison to 89 last year.

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Steady Increase in Rapes in Delhi

2009 - 452 Rapes

2010 - 507 Rapes

2011 - 572 Rapes

2012 - 706 Rapes

2013 - (Jan-Feb) - 247 Rapes

[dkf]

1. It's also possible the women are reporting being raped where before they were silent.

[redqueen]

5. THIS.

People need to stop taking statistics about rape at face value.

[roguevalley]

2. these are acts of annihilation. Evil evil evil.

[freshwest]

4. Acts of annihilation. Well said.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

3. Is this because of more rapes, or because the high-profile case has more victims coming forward?

[JaneyVee]

6. Police do not take rape too serious in India and treat the victim as the guilty one.

This corruption and disregard only encourages rapists.

[siligut]

7. Is this about oppressing women?

This seems to be a theme around the world. Is it a new wave of oppression?

Have we females gotten too big for our britches?

[Helen Reddy]

21. They would prefer

us being too big for our BLOOMERS.

Oh wait....they would call us fat then. Nevermind.

[redqueen]

8. Lest anyone think this is a 'third world' problem...

http://articles.mcall.com/2013-03-08/news/mc-allentown-attempted-child-rape-20130308_1_indecent-assault-indecent-exposure-allentown-police

http://wnep.com/2013/03/07/still-no-arrests-in-alleged-gang-rape/

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/02/3_teenagers_accused_of_abducti.html

[MineralMan]

9. Rape seems to be epidemic in India.

Cultural differences may be behind that, I suspect. That's not to say that it isn't a huge problem in the US, too.

[Vehl]

22. What Cultural differences?

Please check post #15

[guardian]

10. Women in India understand the solution

to protecting themselves.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/02/gun_applications_on_the_rise_for_indian_women/

The attack has also inspired a record number of women to apply for gun licenses.

According to the Delhi police department, 274 Delhi women have applied for gun licenses and some 1,200 more have called the licensing department to inquire. “These include not only the average working woman, but even students who travel long distances to colleges and even their concerned parents. They were eager to find out more on the procedure to acquire arms,” a Delhi police officer told the Times of India.

[Bake]

11. Well, THIS should be interesting!

Let's see ... gungrabbers vs feminists ... should be fun. But what about the feminists who are also anti-gun?



Bake

[Texasgal]

12. Point is we shouldn't have to arm

ourselves in order to prevent rape.

[Bake]

13. No, you shouldn't.

In a perfect world, there would be no rapes. In a perfect world, there would be no random assaults, muggings, etc., and people would be safe to walk anywhere, any time of day or night.

But it's not a perfect world--far from it. And in THIS world, if a woman (or man) wants to carry a weapon to feel safer, well, that's why they call it the "equalizer."

Best wishes,

Bake

[JaneyVee]

17. Except it's not an "equalizer".

When exactly are you supposed to shoot the rapist, before or after the rape? If you shoot before the rape then you weren't raped and if you kill the person without evidence of rape the woman will go to jail. Shooting after the rape doesn't heal the physical & psychological impact of the ordeal. Claiming self defense isn't a get out of jail free card and may end the woman up in jail while also being a victim. What if the woman doesn't want to kill anyone or have to live with that on her conscience?

[Bake]

19. Are you serious?

You shoot before the rape happens, when you are in reasonable fear of an attack. If you shoot after the rape, it's revenge and you go to jail (assuming a jury will convict you).

And if the woman doesn't want to kill anyone or have to live with that on her conscience, she shouldn't carry a weapon. It's that simple.

And I'm talking about this country, by the way, not India. I have little doubt that India, who won't prosecute the rapists and who blames the victim, would prosecute a woman who shoots her would-be rapist. In this country we allow self-defense.

And yes, it's a helluva equalizer--most men are larger and stronger than most women. A woman with a weapon takes that advantage away from the would-be rapist. I know plenty of women who have concealed-carry permits and are trained in and comfortable with the handling of their weapon. If a woman -- or man -- is not comfortable with the weapon, he/she shouldn't carry one.

I'm not advocating that ANYBODY carry one. I'm just saying it's an option, and if Mrs. Bake wants to carry, so be it! She's a damn good shot.

Bake

[Texasgal]

24. Except in a perfect world

I would be able to grab my firearm shoot my attacker before he rapes me. Right? Be a perfect shot too... right? Perfect world indeed.

I was just going on a date, I didn't realize I needed to pack some heat...

[Bake]

25. If you're at close range, you don't have to be that great a shot.

And no, this sure as hell ain't a perfect world, and that's a damn shame. In a perfect world your date wouldn't rape you.

If you don't want to carry a weapon, fine. Don't. A lot of women DO. And that's their right. I'd much rather see Mrs. Bake drop an attacker than be hurt herself. And she's a helluva shot (I think I may have said that already).

Get a purse-size pepper spray. And be choosy with whom you choose to go out.

Bake

[JI7]

30. in India the woman would be charged with murder most likely

the problem is that women were not reporting the rapes and even when they did not much was done about it. the police are very corrupt. you think these same people who do nothing to help women who are raped are going to side with the women when they say they shot someone because of attempted rape. and that's even if they are able to do that. should women always have weapon ready to shoot just in case ? what kind of a fucking life is that ?

how about the little girls.

there were 3 sisters raped and killed a few weeks ago. the girls were thrown into some well and police tried to say the girls killed themselves because they were hungry. it took a bunch of people protesting to look into it more and they found the girls were raped and killed. the oldest of these girls was 11 i think .

should those girls have been armed ?

more stupid shit from the gun nuts. the guns would most likely lead to an accidental death of someone rather than effectivly used for defense.

[uppityperson]

14. Arm all school age girls to prevent rapes like happened to that 7 yr old! woohoo!!!

[guardian]

16. Just to help you out

Apparently you have difficulty distinguishing between rights, responsiblities, and privileges of an adult woman and that of a 7-year old minor. Maybe English is your second language?

wom·an
{woom-uh} noun, plural wom·en {wim-in}
noun
an adult female person.

girl
{gurl}
noun
a young, immature woman

[uppityperson]

18. Maybe you missed the 7 yr old in the OP. Just taking it to the logical conclusion, and back at you..

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
Noun
The use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
Synonyms
irony

[Helen Reddy]

23. Two Snaps! n/t

[Bake]

26. Maybe you missed the whole subthread prompted by the Salon link.

The one about the rise in gun applications among Indian WOMEN.

Bake

[uppityperson]

27. Since our back and forth is the subthread, no, I didn't miss it.

[cthulu2016]

15. Not to minimize that, but compare Delhi to New Orleans

Differences in culture and law surely lead to differences in reporting and accounting, but when I read the OP I realized I had little context for the stats, and wondered how Dehli compares to New Orleans. (New Orleans is a perennial high-rape city, by American standards)

Delhi is about 16 million people. New Orleans is about 350 thousand. FBI crime stats for New Orleans, 2011 - 144 forcible rapes. (Maybe that is for metropolitan area rather than city limits)

If N.O. had a population of 16 million it would be close to 7,000 rapes/year. I don't know exactly what it works out to, given the many uncertainties in the different stats, but that back-of-the-envelope calculation suggests that Dehli's problem is not merely some third-world aberration.

[Vehl]

20. +1 Thank you for fact checking. Delhi has 16 million people!

Rape is abhorrent and laws should be enforced that Rapists (and those who aid them) should rot in jail for the rest of their lives. However, as you correctly pointed out if one looks at the numbers of these cases as a % of the population of the city, the Delhi numbers are considerably lower...In fact it has a 10 times lower rate than N.O.

I returned to DU after a considerable period and am rather shocked at how some posters say "oh it's the culture!" when it comes to such reported cases from India. To me, as a person of Subcontinental origin, this reeks of the "Ah those third worlders" mentality some continue to have. I would guess that if the cases of Rape were normalized for population, America as a whole would have a much higher % than India. Btw this post is not meant to downplay or brush the despicable cases of Rape in India or in any other country.

Thank you for posting a sensible comment!

[WinkyDink]

28. GANG rapes seem on the rise, especially.

[CrispyQ]

31. My thought, too.

Is it because it's easier when they outnumber the victim? Is there some weird bonding between the rapists? Am I the only one who feels that violence against women is getting worse, not better? I try to tell myself that it's a final backlash of the patriarchy, but seriously, I don't believe that. Misogyny is as prevalent with young men as old.

This commentary resonated with me.

The New Misogyny
By Kathleen Geier
3/11/12

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_03/the_new_misogyny035990.php


snip...


One way in which things are much, much worse for women these days than 20 years ago is the sheer amount of virulent misogyny that is openly expressed, and tolerated, in our society. It feels to me that, in many ways, our culture is much more openly sexist now that it was then. Rush Limbaugh’s comments about Sandra Fluke are only the most recent and notorious example of this new misogyny. You see it online; women bloggers, for example, report they are frequently the target of vicious verbal abuse, up to and including rape threats and death threats. Female political leaders of both parties are held to a double standard and subjected to much humiliatingly sexist treatment. Many movies and TV shows,and reality shows especially, traffic in extremely sexist stereotypes; TV commercials sometimes seem to go out their way to be offensive to women. Tabloids obsessively police the bodies of female celebrities and cruelly ridicule any famous woman who dares to go out in public looking less than perfect.

There’s an extremely nasty edge to much of this running media commentary about women. It’s not just garden variety sexism, because it’s very conscious of itself and a lot of it is clearly driven by pure hatred. Here are some examples of what I mean:

— When I was growing up, there was certainly a lot of sexism in television shows, but misogyny is something different. Sexism was Archie Bunker calling his wife Edith a dingbat; annoying and insulting, certainly; sexist, definitely; but not violent or hateful. An example of misogyny is, for example, the way the character of the daughter, Meg, is portrayed in the popular cartoon sitcom, The Family Guy. Meg is frequently the subject of rape “jokes” and cruel jibes about her supposed ugliness; a frequent theme is that she is worthless and beneath contempt because she is not “hot.”

[JI7]

29. those numbers of Rise in Rapes are misleading

the previous numbers were higher than reported because people did not report them as much as they do now.

i don't think there has been much change but only difference is especially with recent news and people speaking out that women are more likely to report it.

but previous numbers of rapes were for sure higher than reported.