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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:02 PM Mar 2013

Boy shot parents after being grounded

The 14-year-old Moses Lake boy arrested in the shooting of his parents over the weekend apparently was angry because he had been grounded and wasn’t allowed to play video games or use other electronic devices, according to a story in the Columbia Basin Herald.

The boy had been given detention time at school so his parents grounded him, according to court documents and the newspaper’s story.

The boy allegedly broke into a gun cabinet, took an unloaded .22 caliber pistol, loaded it, walked into his parents’ bedroom and shot them, according to the incident report compiled by the Moses Lake Police Department . . . (The boy) told investigating detectives he thought he would be able to do whatever he wanted if his parents were dead, the report said.

The victims have been identified as Elizabeth Brooks, 39, and Jonothan Brooks, 38, according to the newspaper report. Elizabeth Brooks was shot in the face and in one hand and Jonothan Brooks was shot in the head. Their conditions haven’t been released, but they were taken to a hospital outside the area, according to authorities.

Read More: http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2013/03/columbian-basin-herald-boy-shot-parents-after-being-ground-and-banned-from-playing-video-games/
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Boy shot parents after being grounded (Original Post) Robb Mar 2013 OP
Let me guess...we need good kids with guns to stop bad kids with guns. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #1
Another second amendment solution... and the easy access to guns. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #2
Well, I guess it wasn't a very good gun cabinet. undeterred Mar 2013 #3
I can't wait to hear the stand your grounded defense. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #4
Little idiot: tblue37 Mar 2013 #5
Gun nut parents AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #15
It isn't the gun nuttiness that I am referring to, though. tblue37 Mar 2013 #27
What evidence have you been Jenoch Mar 2013 #28
It's a trend that I see AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #34
You referred to the parents as gun nuts. Jenoch Mar 2013 #35
Sigh... AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #38
Thank you. I do Jenoch Mar 2013 #39
I always have reason to at least suspect such AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #42
I don't understand why Jenoch Mar 2013 #44
That means nothing in a gun regulation context AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #47
Republicans have zip to do Jenoch Mar 2013 #48
Czars and communists AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #49
It might sound like nonsense Jenoch Mar 2013 #51
This is 2013, not 1913 AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #55
Well, you brought it up. Jenoch Mar 2013 #58
The Moses Lake demographic BB_Smoke Mar 2013 #50
The 'Moses Lake' Jenoch Mar 2013 #52
Having guns handy surely offers protection by keeping so many safe from harm indepat Mar 2013 #6
Locked in a "gun cabinet". ManiacJoe Mar 2013 #33
Caskets Are The New Gun Cabinet otohara Mar 2013 #40
An actual gun safe will get the job done. ManiacJoe Mar 2013 #41
The kid makes sense. NRA spokesnuts are on their way to defend the gun. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #7
What the hell is this world coming to. Don't 14 yr old have any critical thinking anymore? southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #8
He probably has the same level as his parents malaise Mar 2013 #17
I dunno. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #19
Blinded by rage and addled by hormones maxsolomon Mar 2013 #20
Honestly I don't think that would have helped the grandparents. Thank god they got him. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #23
i don't understand your comments maxsolomon Mar 2013 #59
Does ANY 14 year old have critical thinking skills? Myrina Mar 2013 #24
My goodness you would think they know the difference from right and wrong when it comes to killing. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #25
No! atreides1 Mar 2013 #26
Video games can be severely addicting to some individuals flamingdem Mar 2013 #9
He simply found a second amendment solution. mwrguy Mar 2013 #10
Apparently the boy tried to claim it was an intruder, but video showed him with the gun. He had freshwest Mar 2013 #11
The kid obviously has massive mental problems. Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #12
Prison Doctors otohara Mar 2013 #13
No, it is NOT because his parents kept a locket gun in the house Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #14
once more: he SHOT them BECAUSE he had access to a gun. maxsolomon Mar 2013 #21
So if you know your son has severe mental problems malaise Mar 2013 #22
And access to a gun... ellisonz Mar 2013 #29
The gun was apparently not locked. Incitatus Mar 2013 #37
I had a discussion with a person on the issue of gun use for protection in one's home. bluestate10 Mar 2013 #45
When I am not home or have kids visiting Incitatus Mar 2013 #46
As a Mental Health RobinA Mar 2013 #16
Gaming addictions can be severe Marrah_G Mar 2013 #18
if they live, might i suggest arely staircase Mar 2013 #30
What I find disturbing Jenoch Mar 2013 #31
If only they had... 99Forever Mar 2013 #32
The kid is a sociopath Mosby Mar 2013 #36
Exactly get the red out Mar 2013 #57
If only one of the parents had a gun.....ummm, uhh, ahh, forget it. nt bluestate10 Mar 2013 #43
Boy, posters hate the fuck out of these dead parents. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #53
Too bad the parents didn't have guns. Oh wait. They did. Lint Head Mar 2013 #54
Clearly the parents needed even more guns, perhaps even under their pillows at night Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #56
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
1. Let me guess...we need good kids with guns to stop bad kids with guns.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:04 PM
Mar 2013

There's a sickness in the land. I'll leave it there.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. Another second amendment solution... and the easy access to guns.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:05 PM
Mar 2013

I'll bet pison will serioiusly dent his game playing.

tblue37

(65,487 posts)
5. Little idiot:
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:06 PM
Mar 2013

&quot The boy) told investigating detectives he thought he would be able to do whatever he wanted if his parents were dead, the report said."

A 14-year-old who thinks at this level of stupid is hopeless.

tblue37

(65,487 posts)
27. It isn't the gun nuttiness that I am referring to, though.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 04:23 PM
Mar 2013

At the age of 14, a person should realize that (1) no one--no one--gets to do whatever he wants, whether his parents are alive or not, and (2) people who go to prison are even less likely than most people, regardless of those other people's circumstances, to be allowed to do whatever they want. Has he never seen a TV show about crime, punishment, prison unmates?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. You referred to the parents as gun nuts.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 05:54 PM
Mar 2013

I am interested in knowing more about this case. What evidence did you see that shows the parents were gun nuts? It's ok if you don't have any evidence, that helps too.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
38. Sigh...
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 06:26 PM
Mar 2013

I just clarified what I was talking about. You dont have to accept it.

"you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
39. Thank you. I do
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 06:31 PM
Mar 2013

accept that you don't have any reasin to believe the victims of this crime were 'gun nuts'. I was mostly trying to figure out what constitutes a 'gun nut'.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
42. I always have reason to at least suspect such
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 08:55 PM
Mar 2013

A gun nut is someone who gets emotional when it comes to guns. My brother is a perfect example. He is reasonably intelligent when it comes to most subjects, but when the subject of guns comes up, especially gun regulations, he defaults to idiotic Hitler and Stalin nonsense. With my brother the gun nut, guns = stupid.

I own guns and I have no problem with gun regulations. I do not get emotional about them. I am not a gun nut.

Hope that clears it up for you.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
44. I don't understand why
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 09:29 PM
Mar 2013

you would always assume someone is a 'gun nut' instead of being 'reasonable' when there is zero evidence either way.

Some would consider me a gun nut but I would not invoke Hitler, Stalin maybe. Stalin murdered my paternal great-grandfather's entire family (my grandfather and his brother got out before Lenin came to power.)

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
47. That means nothing in a gun regulation context
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 11:30 PM
Mar 2013

Why would you invoke Stalin? Obama is Stalin to you? What does Stalin have to do with gun regulations in the USA in the 2000s?

Simple answer: nothing. Republicans invoke it because they are trolls looking to shock and whip up fear.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
48. Republicans have zip to do
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:04 AM
Mar 2013

with my thoughts on this matter. The peasants under the thumb of the czar, and after that the communists, were unarmed. Things may have been different if they had arms or the ability and the will to resist.

Why did you bring up Obama in this context? I certainly did not.

By the way, you brought up Stalin. I did not.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
51. It might sound like nonsense
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:56 AM
Mar 2013

unless your vrandparents experienced the Russian Revolution. I never mentioned the tea party and have no idea what it is you mean with that reference.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
55. This is 2013, not 1913
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 03:50 AM
Mar 2013

We are not landless, unarmed peasants.

The Tea party always screams "Fascists, Nazis, Communists, Marxists", etc. Its their calling card!



 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
40. Caskets Are The New Gun Cabinet
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:41 PM
Mar 2013

there is no safe place in a home for a fucking gun when you've got curious, angry, hormonal kids in the home, boys especially.

My son was visiting some kids down the street - sure as shit, the mom left them and where did they go looking?
The guns...
That was the last time he was in their home.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
8. What the hell is this world coming to. Don't 14 yr old have any critical thinking anymore?
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:13 PM
Mar 2013

I guess these kids playing to many computer games and all this tech stuff is kind of doing harm to our kids. I don't understand how a kid like this thinks he can do what he wants and not have to pay any consequence.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
20. Blinded by rage and addled by hormones
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:36 PM
Mar 2013

Maybe a gun SAFE, not a gun CABINET next time, Mom n Dad?

BTW, when you hear about stuff like this in WA, and someone asks where did it happen, you say "I forget, somewhere in Eastern WA, like Moses Lake".

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
59. i don't understand your comments
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:54 PM
Mar 2013

he shot his parents - and what wouldn't have helped? a safe rather than a cabinet?

flamingdem

(39,321 posts)
9. Video games can be severely addicting to some individuals
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:19 PM
Mar 2013

that combined with other disorders ... it needs to be addressed

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Apparently the boy tried to claim it was an intruder, but video showed him with the gun. He had
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:24 AM
Mar 2013
considered killing them when he was eight years old. The parents are recovering at the hospital. He's being charged with attempted first degree murder:

http://www.krem.com/news/crime/197697991.html
 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
12. The kid obviously has massive mental problems.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:28 AM
Mar 2013

Hopefully the doctors can get him straightened out -- assuming that's possible.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
13. Prison Doctors
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:36 AM
Mar 2013

think he's fucked up now, just wait till he's in/out prison.

All because his stupid parents kept guns in the house.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
14. No, it is NOT because his parents kept a locket gun in the house
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:49 AM
Mar 2013

Nor is it because he played video games, watched violent movies, or was picked last for baseball. He did this because he has a severe mental illness.

That's all.

Sometimes it happens. Hopefully they can help this kid.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
21. once more: he SHOT them BECAUSE he had access to a gun.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:39 PM
Mar 2013

as in all shootings, the gun enables the shooter to hurl a bullet into the victims body.

absent a firearm, another method would have had to be used. but it wasn't. because guns make killing easy.

"waiting period? but i'm mad now!" - homer simpson.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
22. So if you know your son has severe mental problems
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mar 2013

would you keep a cabinet with guns that he can access?
It is their fault. It was also the mother's fault in Newtown.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
37. The gun was apparently not locked.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 06:04 PM
Mar 2013

A gun cabinet is not a safe. I'd like to see anyone short of a safe cracker try to get to my guns. If someone in your house has a mental illness and you still feel the need to have guns in your house, lock them up securely. It was a combination of a mental illness and stupid gun owners.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
45. I had a discussion with a person on the issue of gun use for protection in one's home.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 09:44 PM
Mar 2013

You keep your guns in a gun safe. What happens if you need it suddenly for protection, like if someone thinks you aren't at home and is breaking into your home? You own guns, I don't. I am interested in reading your summary of how you would handle the above situation.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
46. When I am not home or have kids visiting
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 09:55 PM
Mar 2013

the safe is locked. When I am home I often keep it unlocked. I have a security system and two dogs so I doubt I would have to resort to using a gun for home protection. However, for reasons I'm not getting into I do have more reasons to be concerned about an attack than the average person. I pissed off some nasty people by doing the right thing.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
16. As a Mental Health
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:18 PM
Mar 2013

professional, I always wonder in these cases what the REAL story is. Frankly, for a person to murder his parents, especially when he is still dependent on them...SOMEthing's going on that isn't immediately obvious.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
18. Gaming addictions can be severe
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:35 PM
Mar 2013

I put a big limit on my youngest child's gaming after he went into a rage when I took it away for the rest of the week ( it was maybe 3 or four days) his reaction made me take it away for months and when he got it back I limited it....ALOT! It was actually scary and that is coming from a long time gamer myself.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
31. What I find disturbing
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 05:23 PM
Mar 2013

are the number of wise-ass remarks being posted about this case. Yes, the parents should have had the guns secured better. It seems the parents should have gotten their child some help for his mental health issues. Nobody does what this kid did without some evidence of abnormal mental health.

Mosby

(16,350 posts)
36. The kid is a sociopath
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 06:01 PM
Mar 2013

That's the story here. Was he getting any help? Can you change a sociopath?

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
57. Exactly
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 05:36 AM
Mar 2013

Four percent of people are. That is the over-looked issue because we can't imagine there not being some outside cause for the unthinkable.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
56. Clearly the parents needed even more guns, perhaps even under their pillows at night
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 03:56 AM
Mar 2013

The solution is always more guns.

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