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The boy had been given detention time at school so his parents grounded him, according to court documents and the newspapers story.
The boy allegedly broke into a gun cabinet, took an unloaded .22 caliber pistol, loaded it, walked into his parents bedroom and shot them, according to the incident report compiled by the Moses Lake Police Department . . . (The boy) told investigating detectives he thought he would be able to do whatever he wanted if his parents were dead, the report said.
The victims have been identified as Elizabeth Brooks, 39, and Jonothan Brooks, 38, according to the newspaper report. Elizabeth Brooks was shot in the face and in one hand and Jonothan Brooks was shot in the head. Their conditions havent been released, but they were taken to a hospital outside the area, according to authorities.
Read More: http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2013/03/columbian-basin-herald-boy-shot-parents-after-being-ground-and-banned-from-playing-video-games/
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)There's a sickness in the land. I'll leave it there.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I'll bet pison will serioiusly dent his game playing.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)tblue37
(65,487 posts)" The boy) told investigating detectives he thought he would be able to do whatever he wanted if his parents were dead, the report said."
A 14-year-old who thinks at this level of stupid is hopeless.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Breed gun nut children
tblue37
(65,487 posts)At the age of 14, a person should realize that (1) no one--no one--gets to do whatever he wants, whether his parents are alive or not, and (2) people who go to prison are even less likely than most people, regardless of those other people's circumstances, to be allowed to do whatever they want. Has he never seen a TV show about crime, punishment, prison unmates?
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)made aware that shows the parents to be gun nuts?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)with these shooter types.
Adam Lanzas Mother
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I am interested in knowing more about this case. What evidence did you see that shows the parents were gun nuts? It's ok if you don't have any evidence, that helps too.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I just clarified what I was talking about. You dont have to accept it.
"you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)accept that you don't have any reasin to believe the victims of this crime were 'gun nuts'. I was mostly trying to figure out what constitutes a 'gun nut'.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)A gun nut is someone who gets emotional when it comes to guns. My brother is a perfect example. He is reasonably intelligent when it comes to most subjects, but when the subject of guns comes up, especially gun regulations, he defaults to idiotic Hitler and Stalin nonsense. With my brother the gun nut, guns = stupid.
I own guns and I have no problem with gun regulations. I do not get emotional about them. I am not a gun nut.
Hope that clears it up for you.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)you would always assume someone is a 'gun nut' instead of being 'reasonable' when there is zero evidence either way.
Some would consider me a gun nut but I would not invoke Hitler, Stalin maybe. Stalin murdered my paternal great-grandfather's entire family (my grandfather and his brother got out before Lenin came to power.)
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Why would you invoke Stalin? Obama is Stalin to you? What does Stalin have to do with gun regulations in the USA in the 2000s?
Simple answer: nothing. Republicans invoke it because they are trolls looking to shock and whip up fear.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)with my thoughts on this matter. The peasants under the thumb of the czar, and after that the communists, were unarmed. Things may have been different if they had arms or the ability and the will to resist.
Why did you bring up Obama in this context? I certainly did not.
By the way, you brought up Stalin. I did not.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Sounds like Tea Party nonsense.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)unless your vrandparents experienced the Russian Revolution. I never mentioned the tea party and have no idea what it is you mean with that reference.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)We are not landless, unarmed peasants.
The Tea party always screams "Fascists, Nazis, Communists, Marxists", etc. Its their calling card!
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)BB_Smoke
(62 posts)Does give it a high probability factor.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)demographic gives what to what?
indepat
(20,899 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)However, most gun cabinets do not qualify as "secured storage".
otohara
(24,135 posts)there is no safe place in a home for a fucking gun when you've got curious, angry, hormonal kids in the home, boys especially.
My son was visiting some kids down the street - sure as shit, the mom left them and where did they go looking?
The guns...
That was the last time he was in their home.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I guess these kids playing to many computer games and all this tech stuff is kind of doing harm to our kids. I don't understand how a kid like this thinks he can do what he wants and not have to pay any consequence.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Ah well.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Maybe a gun SAFE, not a gun CABINET next time, Mom n Dad?
BTW, when you hear about stuff like this in WA, and someone asks where did it happen, you say "I forget, somewhere in Eastern WA, like Moses Lake".
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)he shot his parents - and what wouldn't have helped? a safe rather than a cabinet?
Myrina
(12,296 posts)I mean, really? C'mon ....
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)atreides1
(16,093 posts)As long as he can pass tests, critical thinking isn't a requirement!
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)that combined with other disorders ... it needs to be addressed
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)And exercised his rights.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.krem.com/news/crime/197697991.html
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Hopefully the doctors can get him straightened out -- assuming that's possible.
otohara
(24,135 posts)think he's fucked up now, just wait till he's in/out prison.
All because his stupid parents kept guns in the house.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Nor is it because he played video games, watched violent movies, or was picked last for baseball. He did this because he has a severe mental illness.
That's all.
Sometimes it happens. Hopefully they can help this kid.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)as in all shootings, the gun enables the shooter to hurl a bullet into the victims body.
absent a firearm, another method would have had to be used. but it wasn't. because guns make killing easy.
"waiting period? but i'm mad now!" - homer simpson.
malaise
(269,157 posts)would you keep a cabinet with guns that he can access?
It is their fault. It was also the mother's fault in Newtown.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Without that there would be no news story, right?
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)A gun cabinet is not a safe. I'd like to see anyone short of a safe cracker try to get to my guns. If someone in your house has a mental illness and you still feel the need to have guns in your house, lock them up securely. It was a combination of a mental illness and stupid gun owners.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)You keep your guns in a gun safe. What happens if you need it suddenly for protection, like if someone thinks you aren't at home and is breaking into your home? You own guns, I don't. I am interested in reading your summary of how you would handle the above situation.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)the safe is locked. When I am home I often keep it unlocked. I have a security system and two dogs so I doubt I would have to resort to using a gun for home protection. However, for reasons I'm not getting into I do have more reasons to be concerned about an attack than the average person. I pissed off some nasty people by doing the right thing.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)professional, I always wonder in these cases what the REAL story is. Frankly, for a person to murder his parents, especially when he is still dependent on them...SOMEthing's going on that isn't immediately obvious.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I put a big limit on my youngest child's gaming after he went into a rage when I took it away for the rest of the week ( it was maybe 3 or four days) his reaction made me take it away for months and when he got it back I limited it....ALOT! It was actually scary and that is coming from a long time gamer myself.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)they ground him from guns next time.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)are the number of wise-ass remarks being posted about this case. Yes, the parents should have had the guns secured better. It seems the parents should have gotten their child some help for his mental health issues. Nobody does what this kid did without some evidence of abnormal mental health.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... a gun to shoot back with. That would made everything all better.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)That's the story here. Was he getting any help? Can you change a sociopath?
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Four percent of people are. That is the over-looked issue because we can't imagine there not being some outside cause for the unthinkable.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)It was apparently all their fault?
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)The solution is always more guns.