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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne of the most powerful tweets I have seen about Islam
Simple, yet powerful. Now viral
"Muslims view "Islamic" terrorists the same way most Christians view the Westboro Baptist Church...."
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)on an open society? The comparison doesn't hold up.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Claiming Bin Laden represents Muslims is like claiming Charley Manson represents Christians.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)Muslims view "Islamic" terrorists the same way most Christians view "Christian" terrorists."
Eric Rudolph, for example, was/is a Christian terrorist who blew up innocent people. For a more recent example, Paul Ross Evans was/is another Christian terrorist who tried to blow up innocent people in Austin, Texas in 2007, but fortunately the bomb he built and planted didn't go off.
How do (most) Christians feel about these two and others like them? I would hope that (most) Muslims feel the same way about "Islamic" terrorists.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Especially the younger ones who are into the club scene.
Don't forget that bin Laden was a rich playboy before he decided to dress like a holy man.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)I was just trying to put forth a better analogy.
It's pretty damn obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that only a miniscule percentage of Muslims, wherever they are, are in favor of terrorism.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/07/10/most-muslims-want-democracy-personal-freedoms-and-islam-in-political-life/
Particularly with respect to Al-Queda "most" (a vast majority in all countries, nearly unanimous in a couple) Muslims oppose it.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)and advanced past all religious hocus pocus.
Living life without superstition
Imagine
Apophis
(1,407 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)It's a political point, and they hide behind the religion.
Lobo27
(753 posts)Imagine living everyday of your life in constant fear of being killed for something we take for granted. Oh the girl wants to learn to read, yeah she is dead. Oh that guy there he is a different type of Muslim, yeah he dead. That is what a large portion of the Muslim world lives with. Constant fear.....
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I think that's the problem with public perception and where some of the hate comes from.
Muslim leaders have been mainly, if not totally, silent during all these years of terrorism by muslims against innocent people in the name of Islam or Allah.
A tweet by someone doesn't cut it in the face of this sort of incident, as well as the numerous other incidents over the years. The leaders don't have to say anything, but it would help make it clear to the world what the official view of the religion is on terrorism and these incidents. Silence to some means approval.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)April 20, 2013 12:30 am
WASHINGTON
American Muslim leaders say they stand against terrorism committed in the name of Islam, trying to distance themselves from the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings who were identified as Muslims with ties to Chechnya.
We will never allow ourselves to be hijacked by this attempt, and we will not allow the perception to be that there is any religion in the world that condones the taking of innocent life, said Nihad Awad, national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, of CAIR.
As the manhunt intensified in and around Boston, Muslim leaders convened a press conference Friday in Washington to denounce the attacks and to urge the media not to link their faith with violent extremism.
A similar press conference was called in St. Louis by the local chapter of CAIR. The event was organized just hours after police zeroed in on suspects Friday morning.
Full article: http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/muslim-leaders-we-stand-against-terrorism/article_278ef403-cbb7-58bf-bdef-71a7cbfa0e0d.html
See also:
The Big Lie About Muslim Silence on Terrorism
Islamic Statements Against Terrorism
Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Thanks for posting all those links. It gets old, having to do so and I appreciate your continuing.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)national source where a prominent Islamic leader denounces terrorism and explains it's not part of Islam, etc.
Your links seem to be mainly Islamic leaders on foreign sites speaking to muslims. That isn't what my post was about.
I did find one prominent American site - Christian Science Monitor - where a SPANISH Islamic speaking in Spain to Spaniard muslims denounces terrorism. That's close.
My point was....going on CNN or MSNBC and making a statement to AMERICANS, and maybe even participating in a question and answer interview session, like all other people who want to get a message to the American people do.
They don't have any duty to do that. I'm just sayin'.....when you're talking about hate mongering, making this position absolutely clear might just help a bit. There's no reaching some of the wacko hate mongerers out there, no matter what, but it just might help with some.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)The US MSM not reporting it is rather telling.
The links I provided below it disproves what you said in the post I was replying to:
"Muslim leaders have been mainly, if not totally, silent during all these years of terrorism by muslims against innocent people in the name of Islam or Allah."
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Should Christians/Whites have to denounce Timothy McVeigh?
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)Muslim leaders HAVE been speaking out against terrorism. Quite often, in fact.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)want to hear, or brush it off as non-representative when you do hear.
jesus fucking christ.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)CNN, MSNBC, some Fox, etc.
I've heard discussions on TV about how the muslim leaders haven't been making national statements against terrorism, explaining it's not their philosophy and not in the Koran (or they don't abide by that part of the Koran). I've watched for it....never have seen it.
So if I haven't, most others haven't. Which was my point. It would help curb the hate mongering a bit.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)The only way you can talk about "what Muslims believe" or "what Christians believe" is in terms of how many people believe what - there's very little they all agree about.
There are many, many more - quite possibly orders of magnitude more - Muslims who support or are equivocal about terrorism than there are Christians who don't despise the Westborough baptists.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)of all the muslims in the fucking world.
RZM
(8,556 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)I've got no time nor respect for the 'many Muslims support terrorism' brigade. Saying 'many' instead of 'all' doesn't take away from the fact that there's something stinky about pretending that you know what 'most' Muslims think and believe when it's something incredibly negative...
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)"It would be good if it were true" is not relevant to "is it true?"
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)K&R
madville
(7,412 posts)Of Christians celebrating in the streets over Westboro's actions and I'll buy the comparison. Islamic terrorists have a huge, vocal fan base.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)over cartoons and attack embassies over YouTube trailers for obscure films?
jessie04
(1,528 posts)How they feel about the
treatment of women
acid attacks on women
honor killings
madrassas
gay muslims
gay americans as well.
pampango
(24,692 posts)that gives some information about attitudes towards gender equality in several Arab countries.