Former Bush Official Praises Nazis’ Respect For Laws Of War In Defending Gitmo

[kpete]

Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer defense of his former boss’s decision to open Gitmo to begin with.

“We have it because these people did not even follow the law of war, let alone the rule of war,” he said, adding, “These people didn’t even wear a military uniform. They engaged in battle against America as terrorists, a violation of the laws of war. That’s why Guantanamo got invented.”



FLEISCHER: They (the Germans) followed the law of war. They wore uniforms and they fought us on battlefields. These people are fundamentally, totally by design different. And they need to be treated in a different extrajudicial system.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/03/1960261/fleischer-nazis-gitmo/

[gopiscrap]

1. THat whole admin was full of psychopaths

to bad we lost our moral compass as a nation and let these mother fuckers get away with waging a belligerent war! and then lying their rotten asses off about it to the American people and YES!! our press needs to be flogged over this too!

[ProSense]

4. Yup, Fleischer, Dan Senor, Rumsfeld, all aspiring Nazis. n/t

[Octafish]

2. Fleisher doesn't know what he's talking about.

The NAZIs were war criminals and gangsters, just like the BFEE he worked for.

What he doesn't mention:

Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn t win WWII, so they backed Bushes

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. Secrets Of The Dead - Bugging Hitler'S Soldiers

Spied upon by MI19 in a bugging operation of unprecedented scale and cunning, 4,000 German POW's revealed their inner thoughts about the Third Reich and let slip military secrets that helped the Allies win WWII. Based on groundbreaking research conducted by a German historian, the film tells the story of how those conversations were recorded and how they can now reveal, in more shocking detail than ever before, the hearts and minds of the German fighter. In total, more than 100,000 hours of these secret recordings were made.

Only now have they all been declassified, researched and cross referenced. They represent a startling new body of evidence with which to revisit events of the war and they show the political divisions between those top generals who supported the Nazi ideology and those that did not. They also demonstrate the complicity of the rank-and-file soldiers in taking part in Nazi war crimes. Now, 60 years later the chilling and totally uncensored thoughts of the Nazi elite will be heard. The documentary includes intense, full-dialogue dramatic reconstructions that use the verbatim transcripts of these bugged conversations to reveal the dark heart of the Nazi regime as never before. Hearing these shocking conversations will be like taking a time machine back into psyche of Hitler’s Germany.


None were SS they were regular German army officers and soldiers discussing the war crimes they did to each other thinking they were not bugged. So they got more secrets out them than Gitmo ever did.


The English thought the method so effective of treating them good but recording everything that they kept the recordings secret for half a century. So none of the recordings and none of the prisoners were ever prosecuted for war crimes.

Fleisher is jewish which is even a bigger mind fuck for me.

[Octafish]

7. Money trumps peace. And justice.

The guy's a rightwing sleaze, willing to lie to keep his place at the servant's table. Remember one of his replacements, Dana Perino? She couldn't keep her mushroom clouds straight:

Wasn t that, like, the Bay of Pigs thing?

Thank you for the heads-up on the bugging op. We should do the same for the BFEE, were justice ever to return to the United States.

[htuttle]

3. Holocaust? What Holocaust?

Maybe he forgot?

[unblock]

5. nevermind that vastly weaker warring parties have always done this sort of thing. us included.

during the american revolution, colonists often their own clothes and hid in the shadows, taking pot shots at marching british troops, then running away.

the boston tea party was pretty much an act of terrorism, and there were certainly less orderly and civil acts of disobedience from the colonists.

whining about your vastly weaker enemy not wearing uniforms as a violation of the rules of war is incredibly self-serving. you want them to wear uniforms so you can press your advantage and end the war more efficiently.

real warriors accept the realities of war and do the best they can in the situation. if the enemy doesn't wear obvious uniforms, accept it and adapt accordingly.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Hey Ari, if you were alive back then

You would see how much they respected the law, at places like Matthausen, where they lied to the Red Cross delegation

I'd be careful you dolt, nazi lover

[Botany]

9. Perhaps Fleisher has never heard of the "Battle of the Bulge."

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Germans who had lived in America dressed in American GI outfits to go behind
the American lines and the Nazis massacred American POW @ Malmedy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Or D-Day

Where Canadians were executed

For that matter the Eastern front where both sides were all but above reproach, or that the Einzgruppen, who committed atrocities, wore uniforms.

I can say now, ari Fleisher, a Jew...is a nazi lover. In the camps they had names for them, summarized in n word...capo

[Botany]

12. Einzgruppen

nadinbrzezinski



this russian jewish mom holding her baby (saves the need for an extra bullet)
is sure not in uniform.

All those bush motherfuckers will say anything they want and it doesn't give them
a moment of trouble. Cheney, Rummy, Rice, w, Rove, and so on can just flat out
lie lie lie. (BTW to any lurkers of Freepers please double check me on that fact)

[bemildred]

10. What a dumb, ignorant, self-serving asshole.

Not even a decent apology for what was done and is still being done.