Where does the Church's conscience go when children are being molested?

[TheDebbieDee]

I just spent the lase several minutes listening to Tweety whine about how the Church's conscience is being twisted by Obamacare requirements that, as an employer, the Church must participate in providing birth control to employees.

I'm not Catholic, but if I were this Church wouldn't have ANY moral authority with me..............

[Skittles]

1. they didn't give a fuck about children during the Holocaust

so why would molestation bother them?

[rhett o rick]

2. If they want to be an "employer" they need to meet employer regulations. They have a choice. nm

[mysuzuki2]

3. If the Catholic church has to impose their rules on contraception

from above, rather that through the force of their arguments, they can have no moral authority on the issue.

[southernyankeebelle]

4. I'm catholic but like many religions who have molested children (that is a fact) it's the position

see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil. Please do not paint a broad brush over all priests. I happened to have worked for several during the years travelling on military bases. There are many good priest and ministers. Any priest, rabbi, minister who molest children should be sent to jail.

[TheDebbieDee]

10. I'm sure that leaders of different faiths have molested children before............

But only the Church has been caught actively and repeatedly protecting their molesters, using Church funds to buy the silence of the victims.

A Baptist Preacher caught up in a similar scandal won't have the Baptist Association covering up for him/her (I only Baptist as an example).

[southernyankeebelle]

13. Your right. But not all priest are doing the molesting just like not all Baptist preachers are

molesting. I know in my area we had a couple of preachers that were arrested too. We only have one catholic church in my town. Back home where I'm from we have several in the area. We have lots of Baptists church and other faiths.

[REP]

15. The RCC actively covers up priests who rape; there's even an special division to handle that

Its former head now holds a very, very high rank within the RCC. I can't recall what it is offhand, but it involves wearing a lot of gold while telling others not to be ostentatious.

While there have been and are rapists within other denominations, I don't recall any having a policy of covering up the rapes, silencing the victims, and foisting the rapists on a new and unknowing congregation.

(And let's not be coy about what has been happening - it's rape. "Molestation" is a euphemism to hide what's been done to these victims: they have been raped and sexually assaulted.)

[southernyankeebelle]

18. Yes I agree its rape. But not all priest are like that. The ones who cover up should be prosecuted

and thrown in jail. That is for sure. The children need to get justice.

[REP]

19. But that has not been the RCC's position. Their position has been to hide rapist priests,

deny it happens, and silence the victims.

[spanone]

5. it goes to their attorney's voicemail

[TheDebbieDee]

9. Good one......

[AngryOldDem]

6. That's why I'm a LAPSED Catholic.

Got tired of the double-standard bullshit. They squandered whatever moral authority they had left a long time ago.

And about the contraception issue: News flash, Catholic Church: Not everyone you employ is Catholic. If you don't like the rules, then go off by yourselves and form your own alternative universe and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

[baldguy]

7. It goes back to counting the money from the collection basket.

Old Mrs. O'Shaughnessy's $5 bill will just about cover the cost of that roll of duct tape.

[Little Star]

8. I would never look to any church for moral authority...

I take what I like from church and I leave the rest.

The hierarchy are mere men, no closer to god or better than any other human being. When church is good it's because of the other people who go there. I never was very good at blind faith and my own conscience is my moral authority. That's how I feel about it.

[Nye Bevan]

11. How did Southeners worship in church on Sunday mornings

then return home to whip their slaves? And attend a lynching later that evening?

And I was just reading in a book how a train going to the death camps passed near a German church during the Holocaust. The churchgoers knew what was happening but sung the hymns extra loud as the train was passing, to drown out the screams of the condemned Jews.

[RainDog]

12. Yeah - they protect child molestors - no problem

women want to use birth control - the horror!

[pennylane100]

14. I think that one of these days when I hear such dribble within earshot

my inside voice will take over and scream about all the violent acts against children and the hatred toward women that have been tolerated by this wonderful organization.

Their morally corrupt leader is an ex nazi in a purple robe with color coordinated Gucci slippers (or maybe Pravda). This is the moron, dripping in hand sewn silk and satin robes, wearing a jeweled head dress that cost more than most people earn in a year, bitching about the commercialization of christmas. He made this ridiculous statement from the luxurious confines of his own palace surrounded by his own army and private aircraft.

As an ex catholic, whose woefully inadequate education , provided by mean vindictive nuns , was less important than my parents ability to pay, I want to scream when someone mentions the church's conscience. They were barely able to teach us how to spell the word, let alone understand it.

The older I get, the more my inside voice wants to be free.

[REP]

17. I'm sure they no longer single out Protestant children in their schools for special abuse

...but they used to. I am very close to a survivor of a Catholic education in the '40s; she and her sister went there as their father did some work for the school and was offered tuition instead of payment. Both sisters were beaten and tormented without mercy by the old ... women running the place; the older one finally converted before their mother decided to take a loss on the deal and to pull them from that hell-hole.

But they were just beaten and tormented. They weren't raped, so they so be happy

[UTUSN]

16. or Church's conscience when social services are cut? n/t