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Santorum gets a 5% win in Colorado? That's unbelievable. Factor in the suprise factor and you've got a big story tomorrow morning. A 3 state sweep is amazing. 2 of those states were Romney states in 2008. I can't believe it.
What does this mean for Romney's campaign? I know he's leading with delegates for now, but is it effectively over?
Bicoastal
(12,645 posts)Romney's deep pockets means he's not going to leave the race any time soon.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)But damn this is negative for Romney.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)This is tiresome. Everyone did the same thing when Gingrich won S.C. It's all bullshit Romney will be the nominee, he's the only one with a prayer against Obama.
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)Even I was starting look at Huntsman. Someone with his ties to China would have been valuable.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)He is suddenly the guy with just one win.
This is more entertaining than any reality TV show I have ever seen.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
Aerows
(39,961 posts)He's despised among Conservatives in MS. They love Gingrich. Whackjobs love Santorum. I'm just sitting here loving it because the Republican party is so pissed off at their candidates down here, that I get to laugh in their faces.
tulsakatz
(3,122 posts)...so that it doesn't seem as bad as it is.
Still, it's pretty bad when the supposed inevitable nominee loses 3 states in one night!!
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)He shouldn't have lost Colorado under any circumstances. He won it big in 2008 when he lost. He has a number of mormons in Colorado.
that is bad.....especially since there are mormons there!
It kind of makes you wonder if they did any polling. Didn't he know he was likely to lose this one? And if he did, why didn't he try to do anything to improve the results?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)tulsakatz
(3,122 posts)...a good example of that was after he won florida & then said he wasn''t focused on the very poor! I have no doubt that, when he said that, he didn't think there was anything wrong with it, but everyone else did! So he wins Nevada & because he believes he is the inevitable nominee, he obviously didn't see a need to campaign in the other states!
true, he did it to himself.....
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Once they find out he's a Mormon, it gets even worse.
He's got a slimy persona. Republicans dislike him, and Democrats are more than willing to vote for President Obama again to prevent him from getting close to the presidency.
There has been a lot of backlash lately against the right wing. They keep getting more and more aggressively right wing, and don't seem to realize that most people are fed up with their horse manure.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)go off the charts. Looks like a meltdown is brewing.
tulsakatz
(3,122 posts)....not only is there no enthusiasm for their primaries & caucuses but every state seems to vote for different candidates! Which is probably another indication that they aren't excited about the race...
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Missouri I understand, but getting your ass handed to you in Colorado is a huge fail, that is a must win state for the Repubs and the presumptive leader fell flat.
pinto
(106,886 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Minnesota's going to stay blue (inshallah) but Colorado and Missouri are swing states.
I'm not the most expert pundit on the internets, but problems in Colorado seem to me to point to problems in Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, while problems in Minnesota seem to point to Wisconsin and Michigan. Missouri and Iowa were both in the Santorum column. (I know Romney won Nevada with 50% of the vote, but something turned off the voters of Colorado, and I'm not sure he could win Nevada again, especially since public lands have become a big issue in the last week.)
Romney did win Florida and New Hampshire, but how much of that was "inevitability" is unknown.
A candidate who already has problems in 8 swing states before super Tuesday would not be a candidate I would want representing me going into the general election.
This is the best primary ever.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I can tell you that much for certain. Republicans need the South, but he won't get it under any circumstance, and Republicans will sit home before voting for him in southern states.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)I don't think Romney's that guy either.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Nobody likes him except maybe Ann Coulter and that's hardly a ringing endorsement.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)They created the monster, with 30 years of extremism decimated through Fox News, hate radio, and church talking points. Now they're trying to restrain their monster by forcing Romney on them but it is breaking through its shackles.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Romney is being forced on the voters at this point and at least some of the voters aren't playing along.
Romney and the press can say whatever they want about "caucuses" but they are part of the process. If Romney really was organized this wouldn't happen.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Santorum- IA, MN, MO, CO
Romney-NH, FL, NV
Gingrich-SC
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)That was a "beauty pageant" yesterday, not a binding election. A caucus in March will decide where the delegates go. And by March, who knows who will remain in the clown car, much less who is driving it.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Plus, it can't hurt him when the caucus takes place in March.
Mayberry Machiavelli
(21,096 posts)I realize he briefly turned his cannons on Newt, but then has tried to go right back to G.E. mode, thinking tonight was going to be some kind of victory lap.
It will be interesting to see how he handles Santorum after tonight.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)tulsakatz
(3,122 posts)...& begin attacking Santorum
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)More entertainment.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Once they've had a taste, they keep coming back for more!
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Any Republican who could actually win nationally can't win among the GOP base, and the Republican field is relatively weak on top of it; not only that, they don't have what you could call a deep bench, either; there are very few if any relatively moderate Republicans with a national profile. Romney is going to win the nomination; delegates are, hypothetically, allocated proportionally, but the reality is that as long as he performs well enough in the Super Tuesday primaries to stay ahead he's in on the first ballot. There's a lot of talk about a brokered convention and the possibility of some dark horse nominee like Mitch Daniels or Jeb Bush; that's probably not going to happen, honestly (if it does expect even more disaffected Republicans and depressed GE turnout on the R side; Obama's re-election looks as close to certain as you can predict, but the GOP doing something that fantastically stupid would remove all doubt).
JHB
(37,161 posts)...to only listen to their own hot air and dismiss everything else as "liberal media" propaganda, and they end up with their motivated primary/caucus voters convinced they'll ride to victory if only their own team doesn't stab them in the back by "compromising" (the way they did in 2008, which let that Nigerian muslim communist and the swarthy hordes of his ACORN/Alinsky Axis steal their country).
I used to counter claims that Bush betrayed Reaganism by pointing out that actually he was its logical end result. Here, slightly different venue, same answer.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Santorum can't win among women and sane people, and well, Newt Gingrich is Newt Gingrich and he can't win because he's Newt Gingrich.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)I love it.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)and find it riveting because I dislike republican policies and think they are bad for our country, bad for my community and bad for the world.
I was emotionally invested in Obama four years ago and found the primaries exciting but stressful. I felt Hillary was the second best democratic candidate for president I'd ever seen. I didn't enjoy seeing either slip up.
With this republican primary, there's no stress for me because I dislike all of their candidates. More specifically, their policies. And I'm laughing at their mistakes.
Now I'm hoping for democratic sweeps in the house and senate. And thorough national repudiation of 'trickle down' economics and 'austerity' measures. Both of which are bogus theories concocted by - and only serving to benefit - the meanest part of the one percent.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I can't wait for debate season so I can laugh in the faces of every right winger I know. Hell, I already am. They know they are doomed.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)WTF is going on!?
malaise
(269,054 posts)Florida was not winner take all. Rachel has been discussing this.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...but Hillary used them to her advantage throughout the 2008 primaries, I don't see why he wouldn't at least try that tactic here.
Unfortunately for him as long as Newt or Santorum are in the race that strategy isn't going to work.
(It might've worked for Hillary had she focused on the caucus states.)
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)worthy of the Shakespearean stage.
And we'll be here at DU laughing, crying and cheering them on like "groundling" rabble from the pit.
"On, on ye ignoble Repugs...!"
SG
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)McCrazy, but did as they were told (grumbling, of course). Now they aren't doing what they're told anymore--it's Mittens' turn, and yet they don't care. I don't honestly believe they are going to rally around Newt or Little Ricky with any real passion (who could?), but the toddlers are throwing their peas and carrots around instead of eating them this time.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Who do they think they are? Democrats?
LOL