Anyone see this HEATED argument on MSNBC on gays vs african americans

[bigdarryl]

I hate to say this but most African Americans agree with Steel on this there's a lot of ANTI- GAY in my Community http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/07/michael-steele-to-dan-choi-gays-rights-arent-like-black-rights/

[Little Star]

1. Dan Choi handed Michael Steele his own ass in that one! n/t

[MarkCharles]

2. Steele is always an ass to begin with. He has..

the weakest, or most irrelevant arguments in any issue. Naturally, he's a Republitard.

[bigdarryl]

3. They should give Dan a spot as a Contributor on MSNBC he's good

[kysrsoze]

4. The tool is in da house!

Steele is a complete dick, and obviously as much a bigot as the rest of his party. Always gotta have someone to hate or consider to be inferior...

[kenfrequed]

5. “Respect the fact that I don’t think it’s perfect,” Steele insited. “I don’t think it’s perfect.”

This was his line when talking about the analogy.


Respect the fact that I don't think...

No, you can say "you have to respect my opinion" or you can try to elucidate why you think the analogy does not work (Though I think the analogy is apt). You cannot imply 'fact' when what you mean is opinion.

Moreover Steeles suggestion that they are not analagous is idiotic. We are not talking about prejudist feelings or thoughts or even de facto discrimination. We are talking about De Jure discrimination by law. This form of discrimination by law exists by category without regard to whether someone recognizes whether you are black or gay when you walk into a room. This discrimination is about basic human rights, not about whether someone doesn't like you.

Steele is a moron.

[EFerrari]

6. Steele is an ass. There were influential gay folk in the Civil Rights Movement

from its inception and he's scandalizing their name.

[DCKit]

7. The homophobia in the AA community in DC is insane.

Stabbing transvestites has become sport this past couple of years.

Strangely, there is also a large population of Black gay men. The disconnect makes my brain hurt.

[baldguy]

8. Steele thinks anti-black feelings are "visceral", so blacks need legal protections for equal rights.

But gays don't deserve legal protections for equal rights because - based on his own reactions - anti-gay feelings are visceral.

[skypilot]

9. Can't get audio on the computer I'm using but...

...did Choi remind Steele that some people are gay AND black? If he didn't he should have.

[w8liftinglady]

10. Unfortunately,I have seen this in Dallas,too

I volunteer with The Dallas Resource Center.The one community we have seen a spike in HIV infection is young AA gay and bisexual men.They hear it at church,they hear it on the street...You keep your gay self on the down low.Lesbians in the AA community are much more accepted and open.Unless they move to Oak Lawn(the gay district) they are ostracized by their own community.All communities see this to a degree,but it is profoundly more pronounced here.