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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:18 PM Feb 2012

"That's what the left does, turns everything into a question of 'equality," and intrudes on rights!"

Full quote (since it wouldn't fit in the subject line):

"That's what the left does! It turns everything into a question of "equality" and that intrudes on the rights of others! It's a SHAME!"

Just now on MSNBC.

Maggie Gallagher, President of the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy.



Going head-to-head on abortion and women's rights with Karen Finney:



Karen won.



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"That's what the left does, turns everything into a question of 'equality," and intrudes on rights!" (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Feb 2012 OP
"Karen won?" lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #1
Yeah, Karen wins on a lot of levels. n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #2
DUzy! EFerrari Feb 2012 #3
Umm, YEAH, lady. hifiguy Feb 2012 #4
Did Maggie explain which of her rights has been intruded on? gratuitous Feb 2012 #5
Her right to be a sanctimonious, hypocritical bigot and trample people she doesn't like Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #12
I guess some people think they have the "right" kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #6
I thought it was intrusive to tell a human being who(m) to marry. democrat_patriot Feb 2012 #7
Karen definitely wins! And I'm not even lesbian, lol. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #8
She came across as a hateful ,nasty person. It's really pissing sufrommich Feb 2012 #9
I'm so surprised! Ms. Gallagher is a popular newspaper columnist. Why would she do that? Octafish Feb 2012 #10
Can you imagine? dotymed Feb 2012 #11
"You are infringing on my right to treat others unequally! How dare you!!" Taverner Feb 2012 #13
Was this about the "right" of certain organizations to impose doctrine... JHB Feb 2012 #14
Hmmm....Maggie Gallagher is a PIMPP? Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #15
Well, well, WELL...take a look at what I just found. Amerigo Vespucci Feb 2012 #16
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. Umm, YEAH, lady.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:23 PM
Feb 2012

We on the left tend to care about human rights - fairness, equality, all that piddling stuff. Repukes only favor the rights of the 1% to own everyone else and squeal like stuck pigs when we "intrude" on their ability to exploit, loot and destroy the rest of the populace. Geez, Louise.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Did Maggie explain which of her rights has been intruded on?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:25 PM
Feb 2012

I'm guessing she didn't quite have enough time to fully elucidate her point.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
12. Her right to be a sanctimonious, hypocritical bigot and trample people she doesn't like
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:23 PM
Feb 2012

That's the only human right that most of these rightwing zealots care about.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
6. I guess some people think they have the "right"
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:28 PM
Feb 2012

to have rights superior to others by virtue of their religious affiliation or sexual preference or whatever.........

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
7. I thought it was intrusive to tell a human being who(m) to marry.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:28 PM
Feb 2012

Or telling a woman she HAS to have a baby, regardless of the outcome.

Or allowing companies to pollute the air and water that we ALL share in.

Legislating who you can love and marry is a bit intrusive, isn't it Mrs. Gallagher?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
9. She came across as a hateful ,nasty person. It's really pissing
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:33 PM
Feb 2012

me off that these talking heads on TV keep accepting the bullshit line that "this has split the catholic church and catholic voters will make Obama pay for this" without once asking for proof that it is doing anything of the sort. They bring on an anti choice firebreather who is not speaking for a majority of women (even catholic women) and do not even question who she actually speaks for.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
14. Was this about the "right" of certain organizations to impose doctrine...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:35 PM
Feb 2012

...on indirectly-employed persons with regard to insurance policies contracted with yet another organization?

In other words, no one is being forced to do something against their religion, they are just being prevented from using their economic leverage to impose their doctrine on persons who are not engaged in religious activities.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
16. Well, well, WELL...take a look at what I just found.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:18 PM
Feb 2012
Wednesday, Feb 8, 2012 5:00 AM 12:14:24 GMT-0800
The making of gay marriage’s top foe
Salon exclusive: How Maggie Gallagher's college pregnancy made her a single mom, and a traditional marriage zealot
By Mark Oppenheimer

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/08/the_making_of_gay_marriages_top_foe/



In September 1978, Yale freshmen would not have voted Maggie Gallagher the member of the Class of 1982 most likely to get pregnant before graduation. Gallagher was the third of four children from a close family in Portland, Ore. When she was young, her parents, a financial planner and a housewife, had been active in their local Catholic parish, and Gallagher and her siblings spent some years in Catholic elementary school. As Gallagher got older, her parents began to drift away from the church, and Gallagher’s mother became something of a spiritual seeker (“She once took me to an Up With People concert,” Gallagher now recalls, ruefully.) But Gallagher herself moved to the right in high school. Like many precocious girls, she fell for Ayn Rand’s novels, including “The Fountainhead” and “Atlas Shrugged,” and for Objectivism, Rand’s capitalist, acquisitive philosophy. (Gallagher’s other formative influence was the science-fiction writer Robert Heinlein.) When she got to Yale, she only gingerly embraced the secular mores, the drinking and the drugs and the hookup culture, that defined life on liberal campuses in the late 1970s. She tried marijuana once and did not like it. She smoked cigarettes but, afraid of becoming addicted, never inhaled.

Gallagher’s earliest acquaintances at Yale remember a somewhat sheltered young woman, polite and likable, a bit startled by what she saw. One of the freshmen who shared Gallagher’s suite of rooms, Bird Jensen, now a musician in Australia, remembers Gallagher as “a born-again Christian” — which Gallagher was not, but the mistake is telling. She remembers Gallagher, who after all was from a progressive, metropolitan area, as if she were from a small town in the middle of the plains. “It was very different for her to have Jewish people celebrating Shabbat, or have a bunch of hippies strumming guitar, or punk people playing music in our room,” Jensen says. “That was all very new to her. But Maggie was friendly. She had strong views on things, but we all got along.” Another freshman suitemate, Faith Stevelman, now a professor at New York Law School, remembers Gallagher as intellectually provocative — “She was introducing me to ideas nobody else would introduce me to” — but a bit of a killjoy. “I think she was somewhat socially immature.” Although Gallagher recalls being totally happy to be at Yale — “It was the first time in my life I was surrounded by many intellectuals,” she says — Stevelman remembers a young woman who stiffened at everything risky about college in the 1970s: sex, drugs, radical politics. “She was not easygoing,” Stevelman says of her suitemate. “She wasn’t what you would call a fun roommate.”

As a freshman, Gallagher joined the Party of the Right, a debating society affiliated with the Yale Political Union. The YPU is a very large campus organization, with hundreds of members, whose main activity is to bring speakers to campus several times a month. But it is organized into “parties,” smaller clubs that meet for meals, pub nights and informal debates. Each party has its own flavor, political and cultural. The Tory Party is right-of-center and high Anglophile (the men wear tweed, the women plan to take their future husbands’ last names); the Liberal Party is left-of-center, earnest and wonkish. The Party of the Right has the deepest culture of the half-dozen or so parties. Its membership is diverse, comprising libertarians and monarchists, Catholic traditionalists and Objectivists, monetarists and distributivists. But they share a passionate, if often pretentious, reverence for the life of the mind. Members of the Party of the Right often major in philosophy, and they prefer debating questions about God or the Good to mundane matters of policy.

The party’s intentional eccentricity — when I was at Yale, in the 1990s, several Party of the Right men affected hats and trench coats — helps explain its reputation for cultishness. For many members, the party becomes their entire social world, and so it is not surprising that party romances are common. As a senior, Gallagher began seeing a fellow party member, a sophomore who wrote conservative editorials for a campus magazine and dreamed of being a doctor.
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