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lindac007

(55 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:10 PM Feb 2012

As a woman

As a woman I am getting pretty damned tired of being considered a mere collection of body parts to be governed over by men in black robes, people, (including ignorant women who kowtow to men) who preach at me on the floor of the people's house about what I can do with my body and by priests who can't keep it in their pants. Most of the people who do the preaching wouldn't know an elbow from a uterus, claim to be "pro life", but couldn't care any less about the lives of women and in fact couldn't be more dismissive of the lives of children born into this world to parents who for whatever reason, did not want them and could not care for them.

I am a woman, fully grown with all the capabilities to reason, probably better than any man alive. If people don't like abortion, then don't have one. If you don't like Planned Parenthood, don't go and don't send your money to them. There are many things my government supports with which I disagree and yet, I am compelled to pay for them with my tax dollars. People need to grow up in this country.

I know this has been said before, but I am angry and needed to repeat it.

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As a woman (Original Post) lindac007 Feb 2012 OP
Sing it, Sister! renie408 Feb 2012 #1
some good gal in a state legislature posed a bill that men had to have roguevalley Feb 2012 #27
And that was followed up this week with something even funnier... RevStPatrick Feb 2012 #29
It was a man, and I agreed with him tech_smythe Feb 2012 #41
Well said & Thank You! nt Ilsa Feb 2012 #2
I am with you!! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #3
As a man... RevStPatrick Feb 2012 #4
agreed. a very private issue to be determined between a woman and her Doctor. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #5
Preach. EFerrari Feb 2012 #6
Thanks for saying this so clearly... prairierose Feb 2012 #7
Absolutely!! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #8
As a man, I am sick of it too. Let's play "walk a mile in someone else's shoes" for a minute... Taverner Feb 2012 #9
TAVENER NAILS IT!! Skittles Feb 2012 #31
Oh, my. (heart, heart, heart) Are you married?????? Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #35
Thank you for a most excellent reply. Control-Z Feb 2012 #38
That is the sacred key. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #39
9 months of pregnancy is just the beginning--->then the hours of labor & delivery... hue Feb 2012 #52
Yep...I think I just scratched the surface Taverner Feb 2012 #54
Brava!! hifiguy Feb 2012 #10
I wholeheartedly agree... WCGreen Feb 2012 #11
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2012 #12
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #13
I'm a man, and I agree 100% with this OP. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #14
Nicely put!!... one_voice Feb 2012 #15
Agree 100% hamsterjill Feb 2012 #16
hamsterjill, as a middle aged man, I agree with your assessment... Ferretherder Feb 2012 #46
I'm sure you are correct, Ferretherder! hamsterjill Feb 2012 #50
agree AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #17
Very well said Worried senior Feb 2012 #18
amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #19
The "Party of Less Government" still wants the government to tell you what you CANNOT do. MADem Feb 2012 #20
Exactly cate94 Feb 2012 #21
Right on, sistah! peace frog Feb 2012 #22
Amen, sister!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #23
Well said malaise Feb 2012 #24
Meanwhile, there's a fucking penile dysfunction commercial on every 5 fucking minutes! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #25
drives me nuts too. I mute the damn thing... CTyankee Feb 2012 #26
I hear he's ready...well, "all the time!" nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #37
I feel a groundswell of like minded women speaking up, sufrommich Feb 2012 #28
Exactly! I've been really pissed the past couple of days ... Tx4obama Feb 2012 #30
Indeed. WheelWalker Feb 2012 #32
Well said... Spazito Feb 2012 #33
"I am a woman, fully grown with all the capabilities to reason, probably better than any man alive." TroglodyteScholar Feb 2012 #34
Tell it to the world! I am Woman....hear me roar! Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #36
Wow, all these positive responses from DUers. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #40
A long time ago, I moderated a listserv for couples in trouble EFerrari Feb 2012 #42
Heh . . . thanks mistertrickster Feb 2012 #43
You and me both, Darlin'. nolabear Feb 2012 #44
My husband is tired of hearing me say the same thing! secondwind Feb 2012 #45
Yep. Get your nose out of MY business andnyour religion out of MY healthcare! NC_Nurse Feb 2012 #47
Go ahead and say it as much as you want! Chorophyll Feb 2012 #48
It makes me mad too. lunatica Feb 2012 #49
P.S. Fuck Rick Santorum Blue Owl Feb 2012 #51
Amen! n/t ceile Feb 2012 #53

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
27. some good gal in a state legislature posed a bill that men had to have
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:38 PM
Feb 2012

a full rectal exam to get viagra. it got voted down of course.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
29. And that was followed up this week with something even funnier...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:58 PM
Feb 2012
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/lawmaker-proposes-bill-life-begins-not-at-conception-but-at-ejaculation/politics/2012/02/08/34402

Lawmaker Proposes Bill: Life Begins Not At Conception But At Ejaculation

Democratic Oklahoma state Senator Constance Johnson has proposed a bill that would make it illegal for a man to ejaculate anywhere except into a woman’s sexual organs, giving an even more extreme twist to the current so-called “personhood” laws cropping up across conservative states.


We need more of this kind of thing, to shut these control-freak guys up...
 

tech_smythe

(190 posts)
41. It was a man, and I agreed with him
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:35 AM
Feb 2012

if you're gonna make women jump through hoops to get contraception which has been around for 80+ years, then a man needs a finger poked up his butt to get boner pills.

Especially since ED is usually a symptom of something much more serious

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
3. I am with you!!
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:19 PM
Feb 2012

I'm sick of my body being used as a marketing ploy too; of the macho sentiment seen in too many venues that objectifies us AND feels compelled to add a big helping of contempt to it, (the kleenex attitude--use 'em and throw 'em away)

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
5. agreed. a very private issue to be determined between a woman and her Doctor.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:20 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Funding should be provided if any woman can not provide it.

Nobody should interfere between Dr/patient.

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
7. Thanks for saying this so clearly...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:23 PM
Feb 2012

more of us need to say this out loud and tell the bullies to sit down and STFU.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
9. As a man, I am sick of it too. Let's play "walk a mile in someone else's shoes" for a minute...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:32 PM
Feb 2012

Imagine you, a male, could not get a condom without a prescription. And you had to be 18 to buy one. Add to that that if conception occurs, it is you who must carry the fetus to term. Now imagine that if you didn't want said fetus, you had no job, no money. In fact, let's just say you are in an economic system that places the burden of capital production on the opposite sex, so getting a job of your own is tougher than it is the other sex. And if you do get a job, you get paid less for the same work. Oh, and add to that the morning sickness, extra weight, extra rations of food, fatigue, etc. Now, add to the equation that any and all government assistance that might help is being slashed right and left.

You don't want the kid, yet by law you have to carry it to term.

If you still have questions, try this experiment at home: carry around a shotput on your body for 9 months, take ipecac every morning and order every meal supersized. Then, about midday, take a sleeping pill. Oh, and go to every job interview with a big, red, "A" on your forehead.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. Oh, my. (heart, heart, heart) Are you married??????
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:34 PM
Feb 2012

Just kidding!

A very nice post from a very nice man! It's appreciated.

 

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
39. That is the sacred key.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:23 AM
Feb 2012

"Put the shoe on the other foot". That is how we can root out injustice every day.

Thanks for bringing it.

hue

(4,949 posts)
52. 9 months of pregnancy is just the beginning--->then the hours of labor & delivery...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:07 PM
Feb 2012

the healing of the birth canal & perineum, swollen breasts, sleepless nights...
Oh if men had to go through just one menstrual period all the laws would be changed, child care would be one of the highest paid jobs, LOA for birth would be a year or more....etc.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. I'm a man, and I agree 100% with this OP.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:50 PM
Feb 2012

People need to worry about the body attached to their own head, not anyone else's.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
16. Agree 100%
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:58 PM
Feb 2012

And as a middle aged woman, I am sick of the SAME arguments being rehashed that were put to bed in the 60's!!!

Who in their right mind would not want birth control available to anyone who wanted it? If someone disapproves of the use of birth control, then they shouldn't use it. Hell, maybe they'll wind up with a television show on TLC! But do not...and I repeat...DO NOT trample on my right and the rights of others to have it available, have it safe, and have it plentiful.

That stupid fight was fought and won decades ago, and I will not stand silently by while some idiots in this country try to drive the country back into the dark ages. I am woman...hear me roar! Trust me, I have NOT forgotten how to do that!

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
46. hamsterjill, as a middle aged man, I agree with your assessment...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:06 AM
Feb 2012

...but, I have a bad feeling that, with the current state of political division in this country, this may be a battle that will have to be fought again!

Unbefreakinlievable!

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
50. I'm sure you are correct, Ferretherder!
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:18 PM
Feb 2012

And I will be proud to have enlightened gentlemen, such as you, alongside me when we go back to battle over these issues! Those that believe in equality for women have been silent far too long. I have been heartened by the recent issue with the Komen foundation, where more voices were speaking up. I hope that means that there are still enough of us who believe in equality in this country to overrule the idiots who want to put women back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant!

I'd like a better future than that for my daughter, after all!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. The "Party of Less Government" still wants the government to tell you what you CANNOT do.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:08 PM
Feb 2012

That's the whole irony, there! So much simpler to say--be it abortion, gay marriage, what-have-you....don't like it? Don't do it! Problem solved!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
26. drives me nuts too. I mute the damn thing...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:37 PM
Feb 2012

there seem to be quite a few commercials out there -- mostly jewelry and resort ads -- that are devoted to men trying to get laid, the perpetual chase...

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
28. I feel a groundswell of like minded women speaking up,
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:41 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:59 PM - Edit history (1)

hopefully this war on women raises awareness across the country.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
30. Exactly! I've been really pissed the past couple of days ...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:21 PM
Feb 2012

and especially this morning while watching Morning Joe - a bunch of men sitting around spouting off about what is a WOMEN'S ISSUE,
and Mika sitting there not hollering at the men! She should have said: What gives you the right to say that a woman's birth control bill prescription shouldn't be paid for by their insurance company? And why do you think that insurance companies should pay for a man's Viagra but not a woman's medicine?

Grrrr....

And then one of the cable networks had a Catholic bishop on as a guest, and he was an asshole. He shouldn't be on TV spewing his BS about what insurance companies should be and should not be paying for regarding WOMEN.

Bottom line: We need MORE females in The Senate, in The House, in all levels of government (state and local), on TV as 'talking heads', etc.

Not long ago I composed an OP here at DU www.democraticunderground.com/100292720
about the need for more 'females' in The U.S. Congress and there were a couple replies that inferred that 'gender' wasn't that important.

YES GENDER DOES MATTER.

There is a no better advocate for women's rights than a WOMAN!




Spazito

(50,365 posts)
33. Well said...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:01 PM
Feb 2012

I join you in being "pretty damn tired" of the same crap you have eloquently laid out in your OP.

and Recommended.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
34. "I am a woman, fully grown with all the capabilities to reason, probably better than any man alive."
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:10 PM
Feb 2012

I'm just a stupid man, but I was agreeing with you there for a minute... Then you had to go and reinforce the awful "hysterical woman" stereotype with the ridiculous statement I quoted above. Way to go!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. Tell it to the world! I am Woman....hear me roar!
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:35 PM
Feb 2012

Okay, a silly throwback. But still, we women have not been standing up for ourselves in recent years. It's time for that to change.

 

mistertrickster

(7,062 posts)
40. Wow, all these positive responses from DUers.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:24 AM
Feb 2012

How are the angry angry people going to condemn their fellow DUers for being sexist if we keep fighting for our rights like this?

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
42. A long time ago, I moderated a listserv for couples in trouble
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:42 AM
Feb 2012

most of them going through a divorce. When I was planning a retreat, one of our members told me, "Don't put me in with those really angry guys". Well, as the weeks rolled by, I was nailing down details with him and said, "I remembered not to put you in with those really angry guys." And he says, "You know, now I AM one of those really angry guys".

lol

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
49. It makes me mad too.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:12 AM
Feb 2012

But this is a Presidential election year and women's bodies are now officially a wedge issue to get everyone all riled up.

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