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Bicoastal

(12,645 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:57 PM Feb 2012

How many people do YOU know who have a problem with contraception or other forms of birth control?

For me, it's only two--my ultra-orthodox Jewish cousins, and they don't even live in this country anymore.

I know a fair amount of Republicans and Catholics, but the right has demonized abortion and single mothers so much that I think they'd prefer to find a condom in their teenage daughter's purse than a baby in her belly or a doctor's bill in her pocket.

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How many people do YOU know who have a problem with contraception or other forms of birth control? (Original Post) Bicoastal Feb 2012 OP
Who knows? hfojvt Feb 2012 #1
My relatives are predominantly Catholic, about half of them regular church-goers... MANative Feb 2012 #2
I have a noodgy relative who could be persuaded to carp about it. MADem Feb 2012 #3
No Catholic or Jew I know. onehandle Feb 2012 #4
As far as I know - none. HappyMe Feb 2012 #5
I've known many Control-Z Feb 2012 #6
None. nt sufrommich Feb 2012 #7
I knew two. BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #8
Next month we'll be arguing about forcing stores to close on Sundays... Speck Tater Feb 2012 #9
I think this is what some of them are aiming for. nt Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #28
My daughter's mother -in-law is a staunch Catholic HockeyMom Feb 2012 #10
The only one I know who hasn't used something regularly is my SIL woodsprite Feb 2012 #11
None that I know of, Still Blue in PDX Feb 2012 #12
I haven't the faintest idea. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #13
Are they OK with Viagra?? RockaFowler Feb 2012 #14
Every single female I know has complained EC Feb 2012 #15
I cannot think of even one. I do know a couple of rethugs who have a bunch of kids because they jwirr Feb 2012 #16
Only one person. She is Catholic and only promotes Ilsa Feb 2012 #17
Thankfully, no one ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2012 #18
I don't know anyone who has a problem with birth control Horse with no Name Feb 2012 #19
None. n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #20
none n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #21
I've never engaged in a conversation with anyone who said they do. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2012 #22
No one. nt tsuki Feb 2012 #23
- 0 - L0oniX Feb 2012 #24
I don't. I do have a problem with STATE and Church coming together on this issue... midnight Feb 2012 #25
Grew up in a Catholic community... laundry_queen Feb 2012 #26
Since I see very few families of 10 or more, Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #27
I have a friend who is deep into the quiverfull movement XemaSab Feb 2012 #29
No one, not in three generations of a huge Catholic family. EFerrari Feb 2012 #30
Does running out qualify as a problem? Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #31
I have a problem with The Pill. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #32
NONE gregtownsand Feb 2012 #33
Nobody I've had sex with taught_me_patience Feb 2012 #34

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
1. Who knows?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:59 PM
Feb 2012

Oddly enough, I cannot recall a single conversation where the subject of birth control came up.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
2. My relatives are predominantly Catholic, about half of them regular church-goers...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:03 PM
Feb 2012

and the others lapsed, like me. None has more than a couple of kids, and the conversations with my female cousins, at least, have usually been about which method of BC they preferred over others. No compunctions, no guilt.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. I have a noodgy relative who could be persuaded to carp about it.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:03 PM
Feb 2012

She has a bug up her ass about abortion. I've told her she shouldn't get one if it bothers her (she's pushing 90, so I don't think she'll have anything to worry about).

She can be motivated to go to discussion of religious objections to birth control, though not many care to engage her on the topic. However, she'd be hard put to explain why all of her children only have two kids each, so she probably wouldn't want to "go there" either.

In my day-to-day life, though, I don't know a soul who gives even the slightest bit of a shit.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
6. I've known many
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:07 PM
Feb 2012

Catholics who have a problem with the church's view on birth control including more than one family who followed church rule and deeply regretted it.

I do not know a single person who has a problem with the use of birth control. Not one.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. I knew two.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:07 PM
Feb 2012

One Republican Peruvian woman *and her oldest daughter, both who assailed me when I suggested if my daughter began weedle-waddling for boys, I'd take her to the doctor to get her on the pill.

She was furious, stating that I was "encouraging" my daughter to have sex. But that hasn't been the case.

Today, my daughter is about to work for a criminal defense attorney, is enrolled to study to become a Legal Assistant (higher than a paralegal but just under a litigating attorney where she will be able to give legal advice and sit in beside her boss in court, but not litigate), is still sexually inactive (a promise she made with her boyfriend for three years now and he's fine with it), while both of my friend's daughters were pregnant at 14 (oldest daughter) and the second one who is a year older than mine is a mother of a two-year old - both unmarried and the sperm donor has skidaddled.

She's revised her stance on birth control now.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
9. Next month we'll be arguing about forcing stores to close on Sundays...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:13 PM
Feb 2012

...and making church attendance mandatory for all citizens.

If we give these assholes an inch they're going to want a mile.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
10. My daughter's mother -in-law is a staunch Catholic
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:17 PM
Feb 2012

When she was young, and married, she had an abortion because her husband (also Catholic) didn't want any more kids. They subsequently did have one more for a total of 3. No BC? An abortion is better than than the Pill or a vasectomy? Hello? Both BC methods were around back then, but I never got into that topic with them.

She is now VERY, VERY religious. Guilt? She goes to Mass every single day and cannot miss it even when sick. She is CONSTANTLY asking her son, and my daughter, why after 3 years of marriage they haven't gotten pregnant. Umm, because they don't want to yet, and my daughter takes the Pill? They don't want to anger Mom and just try to ignore her, but she HAS to know they use contraception.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
11. The only one I know who hasn't used something regularly is my SIL
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:20 PM
Feb 2012

She has 5 kids. Her hubby finally had surgery because she said she wasn't going to.

SIL is Funda-evangelist and her hubby is a lapsing Catholic. I was witness to him telling her at their wedding reception that she could have as many kids as she wanted as long as she stayed home and took care of them. I guess he didn't really mean that since he 'turned off the faucet'

I do know she used both pills and condoms when she was dating and living with her boyfriend. My MIL made it a point to put condoms in everyone's Christmas stocking one year. She bought the multi-colored ones because they were 'festive'.

Don't know what happened to my MIL - now she and Dad have turned into some of the most fundy people I know. And they turned that way BEFORE they moved to Florida.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
12. None that I know of,
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:21 PM
Feb 2012

and all my in-laws are Roman Catholic.

I tend to not talk about religion with many people because I'm not mainstream, and it's just easier that way. I'm purely going on my observation that none of my friends or acquaintances appear to be advocating or living the "quiver-full" lifestyle.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
13. I haven't the faintest idea.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:25 PM
Feb 2012

It's not a subject that I can recall ever coming up in conversation with friends or family.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
14. Are they OK with Viagra??
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:40 PM
Feb 2012

Why is it OK for a guy to have Viagra??

Look many women take the Pill for other reasons. I take it to regulate my period - also I cannot afford to have a child, so I don't want to get pregnant currently. And what would happen if I did become pregnant?? Who would take care of said child?? I have to work, so does my husband. Why?? Because the Repukes screwed Florida so much that my hubby lost his job that paid well. That would have allowed us to have children with me staying at home. Now, not so much. So even though I would love to have a child, I can't.

But in Repuke la-la land I should be at home barefoot and pregnant. No food or money - just pregnant!!

EC

(12,287 posts)
15. Every single female I know has complained
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:26 PM
Feb 2012

that they have to pay for the pill when men can get viagra free.


Oh and as far as the church goes, they didn't care.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. I cannot think of even one. I do know a couple of rethugs who have a bunch of kids because they
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:45 PM
Feb 2012

think that it shows others how God takes care of them when they obey Him.

What is really funny is that in the one family with 8 children the father lost his job and they were on welfare for years. And because the family was so large even when they were working they got help - food stamps, college grants, etc. Then they ended up getting a divorce which only made it all worse. The only way they can claim God's help is if they acknowledge that all those welfare programs were part of God's gifts.

The other family has 5 little children and she stays home to care for them while he works at McDonald's. They are not seeing the big problem yet but it will come. He is a close friend and we have seen him unwind when she is not around. His drinking is not a pretty thing to see. If he continues on that road it is going to go really bad for them.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. Only one person. She is Catholic and only promotes
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:39 PM
Feb 2012

Abstinence and natural family planning. I told her it didn't work for me since my husband travelled so much. We'd never get to have sex if we practiced NFP.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
19. I don't know anyone who has a problem with birth control
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:53 PM
Feb 2012

I have to read about these fire-breathing morons on the internet.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
22. I've never engaged in a conversation with anyone who said they do.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:59 PM
Feb 2012

I know all my friends don't have any issues with BC.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
26. Grew up in a Catholic community...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:10 PM
Feb 2012

Nearly everyone I went to school with was Catholic. My parents were Catholic. So were my grandparents. My maternal grandmother in particular was very devout.

No one had any issues with birth control. AFAIK, not one of them DIDN'T believe in it. Even my grandmother went on the pill when it FIRST came out back in the 60's when she was getting closer to menopause. No one (except my grandmother who didn't HAVE any birth control for most of her fertile life) had more than 2 or 3 kids. Not my extended family after the introduction of the pill (my grandfather - b 1909 youngest of 14 - had several brothers that had 14-19 kids but that was in the 30's-50's). Not in my town. There were a few families with more than 3 kids but they were Mormon. They were regarded as freaks by the rest of the community. Anyone with more than 3 kids was regarded as 'insane'.

So, no, can't think of anyone.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
27. Since I see very few families of 10 or more,
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:21 PM
Feb 2012

I would say that damned few people have problems with birth control.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
29. I have a friend who is deep into the quiverfull movement
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:59 AM
Feb 2012

and he said he'd leave it up to his wife to decide.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
34. Nobody I've had sex with
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:11 AM
Feb 2012

In fact, if they didn't insist on a condom the first time... I'd stop right there. Condoms are a must.

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