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karynnj

(59,504 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:08 PM Feb 2012

Sounds like more trouble for John Edwards

His campaign from 2008 is still spending and they have not returned the matching funds they should have returned. Both the AP story and the WP story that is based on it really sound like there are some pretty strange charges. Not to mention, he still has debts from his primary campaign in 2004. As he is and was a multimillionaire, I don't understand why he is doing this - when he under indictment. This could be a negative story later in the year - right as the political season gets going.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/edwards-campaign-owes-taxpayers-1338762.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/john-edwards-2008-presidential-campaign-still-spending-despite-21-million-debt-to-taxpayers/2012/02/08/gIQABElZzQ_story.html

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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Yikes
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

$12,811 on hotels this past year alone, $15,000 on airfare? For a campaign that ended four years ago? I don't get it.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
3. He is on his own. I don't think anyonw will be jumping to his defense.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:24 PM
Feb 2012

Maybe he is trying to claim insanity. as in "you would have to be crazy to do all that.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
2. Enough crooked republicans in office, they will have to drudge up a democrat who is out of office
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

and make it seem equivalent.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
12. He was twice considered a top tier candidate for President
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:29 PM
Feb 2012

- in spite of a very short resume.

As to "drudging up", this was part of the routine for auditing a campaign after it is over. That is always done - and small errors are always found, but you would think after a 6-0 vote, he would have returned the funds - after all they still had enough to do so.

It is also not surprising when they are still litigating that decision that there would be charges, but there are clearly some charges that would seem to ask to be red flagged. I don't get why he would allow this to happen - and he has the time to be 100% involved making sure this is done correctly.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
5. It is sad, because I liked him at one time.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:31 PM
Feb 2012

There is something deeply wrong with a person who has an affair knowing his every move is being scrutinized.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. Sure is.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:49 PM
Feb 2012

And he had a sick wife and multiple kids to boot while having the affair. It doesn't look good.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. So did I. I was going to vote for him in the CT primary had he not backed out before it
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:57 PM
Feb 2012

was held.

I have vowed NEVER to be taken in by a candidate again in that fashion. I am totally disgusted with him and anyone like him (and unfortunately there are plenty of them out there).

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
8. Same here.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:09 PM
Feb 2012

I was one of the man's most passionate supporters at one point. All this stuff involving him has been a real eye-opener fot me. I'll never fully trust ANY politician ever again.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
13. Consider the people who were MUCH closer to him he fooled -
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:33 PM
Feb 2012

people like Bob Shrum, Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, who strongly pushed that he be the VP - and Kerry, who ignored his gut reaction of not trusting him because he came out clean on vetting and (likely because of all the positive media) polled as most helping Kerry. Not to mention all the media people who loved him and all the people on his team who stayed with him.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
9. Me too, I was a supporter of his going bact to at least 2004
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:25 PM
Feb 2012

now I can't believe how he had me so fooled!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. well, you know, he was the ONLY one talking about the poor.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:39 PM
Feb 2012

And, in my opinion, he had the best health care plan and he articulated it best. He said that
the public option would eventually put the for-profit health care industry out of business given the chance to compete (which of course we learn that couldn't happen). That was what attracted me to him in the first place.

What a sad, sad day that was when we learned the truth. I even defended him after the first reports came out from the Enquirer. I thought it was a put up job against him. I was very embarrassed...

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
15. The team of people who worked with him on his 2008 platform are still out there
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:18 PM
Feb 2012

Edwards had to run to the left in 2008 - though that was not where he was in the Senate or in his 2004 campaign - because it was clear from the onset that Clinton would dominate the right/center part of the Democratic party.

I didn't like Edwards in 2004, was unhappy when he was selected (but was so happy that Kerry was the Presidential nominee that I didn't care who the vp was). I liked him less when he started lying about the 2004 campaign and suddenly emerging as the new Trippi candidate - without the ethics and gravitas of Dean. I hated that he used Elizabeth to attack Clinton in a pretty dishonest way.

But, like you, I defended him when the Enquirer first came out because I absolutely did not believe it and thought it despicable that anyone would print this given Elizabeth's health.

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