Religious liberty.

[mmonk]

Religious liberty does not mean you have a right to force others that do not share your faith to adhere to it through civil law. It means the opposite.

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, mmonk.

[mmonk]

3. You're quite welcome as always Uncle Joe.

[1ProudAtheist]

2. Amen & Hallelujah

Religious freedom means respecting the religious beliefs of ALL others.

[Kurmudgeon]

13. Try to remember that works both ways.

[jody]

4. "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." That's true for all rights

whether enumerated in the first eight Amendments to our Constitution or unenumerated but protected by the Ninth Amendment.

Quote attributed to Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

[mmonk]

5. Yep.

[Kurmudgeon]

6. Great. I guess I won't see those chain gangs being forced to go to church any more.

Oh wait, that never happened.

[mmonk]

7. Nope.

[hootinholler]

8. There was a recent case of church attendance as a condition of parole

I don't remember the details, but I was astounded by it at the time.

[TriMera]

9. You know what did happen?

I just sat through an hour and a half of listening to "Christian Legislators" arguing that Marriage Equality in Washington State should not happen because it would somehow interfere with their "Christian" rights and that we live in a "Christian Nation". Now, I have to wait and see if these "Christians" can get enough signatures to put a referendum on the ballot in November. If they can, then I have to watch those same "Christians" vote on my civil rights once again. No, people aren't being forced to go to church, but we are being forced to live by someone else's religion.

[Kurmudgeon]

10. You went thru a very convoluted process to arrive at victimhood?

Handy process indeed.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Watch and learn

some people provide excellent demonstrations of that convoluted fucking process, if you pay close attention around here.

[Kurmudgeon]

15. Old, Prejudicial, self righteous cartoons? Those were laughed off of Fark.com months ago.

You need to freshen up your act, something you need to do when your gig is so stale.
Remember the bully in school who would sucker punch you then yell "stop hitting me!!"
You're just like him.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. Like this:

[Kurmudgeon]

17. You know who else made up imaginary reasons to justify their assaults?

[Warren DeMontague]

24. The Muppets?

[Kurmudgeon]

30. I can see why you chose them, did you like the movie? Did mom and dad buy you pop and candy?

[Warren DeMontague]

33. You're still mad that your thread about the "pro deathers" was locked, aren't you.

Bet that smarted, huh, sparky?

[TriMera]

19. Don't talk to me about "victimhood". The poor, poor "Moral Majority".

You're breaking my heart. All I'm asking is that you keep your religion out of government. Do you have a problem with that?

[fascisthunter]

21. yes.... because the uber religious want their views indoctrinated into society

and want to use our government to do it. THIS is why the founding fathers believed in a Separation of Church and State. They saw first hand how religions poison governments and become oppressive tools for the rich and powerful sociopaths.

[TriMera]

23. +1. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

11. and you won't see all those folks who object to contraception forced to use it.

However, they won't be able to dictate that shit to OTHER people, not if they want to run a state-licensed insurance system.

[Kurmudgeon]

16. Nah, they'll just be silenced here, and you have the gall to talk about force and dictation.

You do wield your victimhood sword quite capably though, I'll give you that.

[MineralMan]

18. Silenced? You don't seem to have been silenced.

I don't mind whatever beliefs you might hold. That's your deal. I don't share them. That's my deal. If you try to make me follow your beliefs, then we will contend, and I will win. Worship whatever you can. Leave me out of it. Thanks.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. "You're silencing me if you don't allow me into your medicine cabinet to flush those pink sin-pills

down the drain!"

Now, stop fucking for pleasure. I mean it, this time.

[MineralMan]

27. Indeed!

[Kurmudgeon]

28. "stop fucking for pleasure" Ahh,ok, I see what is important to you. Your sex acts mean nothing to me

Should have realized I was talking to a kid. Sorry son, you run along now.
/rolleyes

[Warren DeMontague]

31. How childish, not to believe there's a giant invisible man in the sky who has nothing better to do

than worry about how the hairless apes of planet Earth are screwing.

Indeed.

Know what's even more childish?

Worrying about what other people do with their bodies.

The war on reproductive choice is going to lose, Jack. You are MASSIVELY outnumbered. Find a new hobby.

[Warren DeMontague]

25. I DEMAND THE RIGHT TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE THEY CAN'T USE BIRTH CONTROL, DAMMIT!

Good. Good for you. I demand the right to call those people fucking assholes, before I go off and have sex for non-procreative purposes.

And enjoy the fuck out of it.



What? Did I make the Baby Jesus cry?

[Kurmudgeon]

29. Baby Jesus didn't cry, you just made up an imaginary scenario. Like your birth control excuse.

Buy a rubber, take some pills, knock yourself out.
I realize now that you operate on imaginary scenarios, that explains a lot.
YOU using birth control is an excellent idea, continue to do so. If you haven't, you're a hypocrite.
Now type the F-word again, because you're so tough and edgy.
I'm going to go do something else now, you've gotten boring.
Maybe you should get off the computer, go out and get some night air.
Oh, and try not to flail around in public, you'll never get laid, except maybe by someone even less choosy than you.

[Warren DeMontague]

32. One of DU's 3 or so resident anti-choicers is offering me advice on how to get laid? Classic.

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Sorry, Fucking classic.

(Jury: Please note this hidden thread as well as this subsequent post before passing judgment, here. As for my foul-mouthed sailor language, I throw myself on the mercy of the court)

There it is. "Fucking".

Speaking of which, errrrrr....happily married, here. With kids. How that makes me a "hypocrite", I'm not really clear on-the-logical-line-ya-took-ta-get-to-that-point, man, but, whatever.


And speaking of flailing.

[fascisthunter]

20. Thank You... religious liberty isn't in danger, what is, is a secular government

a government is being attacked by religious extremists who want to dicate law in this country. Go fuck yourselves!

[mmonk]

22. You're welcome. Precisely.

[Odin2005]

34. K&R