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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:51 AM May 2013

Ellsberg re Manning: "I would have done in the digital age just what he did-He did it exactly right"

“I have a considerable identification with whistle-blowers, but Bradley above all because it is the first time in 40 years since the Pentagon Papers that someone has put out a large raft of material. And therefore he does deserve to be, I believe, seen as a hero,” he told AFP.

Ellsberg leaked the so-called Pentagon Papers to the New York Times in 1969, revealing the government had lied about the progress of the Vietnam war. The incident marked a major turning point in public opinion of the war and ignited a famous legal case that was eventually decided by the Supreme Court.


Manning is accused of transferring thousands of secret State Department files to WikiLeaks. The United States Army soldier is facing a controversial espionage trial.

“People criticize him for putting out material he hadn’t read,” Ellsberg said. “But he clearly had read a great deal of it. I hope that I would have done in the digital age just what he did. He did it exactly right.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/30/daniel-ellsberg-wikileaks-suspect-bradley-manning-deserves-to-be-seen-as-a-hero/

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Ellsberg re Manning: "I would have done in the digital age just what he did-He did it exactly right" (Original Post) kpete May 2013 OP
Daniel Ellsberg. A real American hero. Fuddnik May 2013 #1
High praise indeed nt duhneece May 2013 #2
Recommend! KoKo May 2013 #3
K&R nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #4
K&R For Truth, Justice, and the American way. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #5
K&R G_j May 2013 #6
150k diplomatic cables, 380k CIDNEI database records, 90k CIDNEA records, and 250k records from msanthrope May 2013 #7
Ellsberg is wrong. That was easy. randome May 2013 #8
paging the "Manning is no Daniel Ellsberg" people.. frylock May 2013 #9
Ellsberg can say it, but ProSense May 2013 #10
Under sweltering sun nearly 2000 including Ellsberg, Shourd, Choi, Wright rally in Manning support. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #11
FOOD & WATER WATCH REPORT on Wikileaks cables. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #12

G_j

(40,366 posts)
6. K&R
Fri May 31, 2013, 12:08 PM
May 2013

but of course, there are folks here who far more qualified then Ellsberg to judge Manning's actions.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
7. 150k diplomatic cables, 380k CIDNEI database records, 90k CIDNEA records, and 250k records from
Fri May 31, 2013, 12:12 PM
May 2013

the State Department Diplomacy database.....

Sure, Daniel, he read a 'great deal' of them. I hope he tries that as a defense in court. Truly.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Ellsberg is wrong. That was easy.
Fri May 31, 2013, 12:17 PM
May 2013

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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Ellsberg can say it, but
Fri May 31, 2013, 03:31 PM
May 2013

there is nothing about what Manning did that rises to the level of the Pentagon Papers. Nothing.

He may very well have taken that route, but the notion that just because he says he would do it means it had the same impact or relevance is flawed.

There are people comparing James Rosen to Ellsberg.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
11. Under sweltering sun nearly 2000 including Ellsberg, Shourd, Choi, Wright rally in Manning support.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jun 2013
http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2013/06/thoiusands-march-for-manning.html

Posted by Greg Mitchell at 10:32 PM
Saturday, June 1, 2013


2000 March for Manning

Multiple embedded links at original.

From email via Bradley Manning Support Network. And see new updated (to this week) edition of my Manning book with Kevin Gosztola. Photos. More photos.

Nearly two thousand supporters of US Army PFC Bradley Manning rallied and marched on Fort Meade, Maryland, this afternoon for the young whistle-blower. Under a sweltering sun, Pentagon Papers whistle-blower Daniel Ellsberg, former political prisoner-turned-human rights advocate Sarah Shourd, LGBT activist and US Army LT Dan Choi, and retired US Army Col. Ann Wright addressed supporters at the Llewellyn Gate, nearest the military courtroom.

The demonstration, which lasted several hours, comes two days before Manning’s trial is set to begin at Ft. Meade, on June 3, and three years after his arrest. The government is charging Manning with indirectly “aiding the enemy” for releasing hundreds of thousands of war logs, diplomatic cables, and military videos to the transparency website WikiLeaks.

PFC Manning has said that he hoped the releases would “spark a domestic debate on the role of the military and our foreign policy in general as well as it related to Iraq and Afghanistan.”

A dozen chartered buses brought supporters from across the northeast, including three buses from New York City. Military veterans and activists traveled from around North America—some arriving from as far as Michigan, Montreal, and Mexico City.
“People came from great distances to stand with a true American hero,” said Jeff Paterson, director of the Bradley Manning Support Network. “From Bradley’s demeanor in court, it’s clear he takes strength from the outpouring of support.”

Today’s rally was held with the assistance of many national organizations, including Veterans for Peace, Iraq Veterans Against the War, CODEPINK Women for Peace, World Can’t Wait, and Courage to Resist.

In addition to today’s event, the Bradley Manning Support Fund is also responsible for 100% of PFC Manning’s legal fees. Twenty thousand supporters have contributed over $1.25 million dollars in defense of PFC Manning and towards associated public education efforts, since his arrest in Iraq in May 2010.




More on Greg Mitchell: https://www.google.com/search?q=greg+mitchell&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
12. FOOD & WATER WATCH REPORT on Wikileaks cables.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/reports/biotech-ambassadors/

May 14th, 2013

U.S. Version – Biotech Ambassadors: How the U.S. State Department Promotes the Seed Industry’s Global Agenda



Read the Full Report

Agricultural development is essential for the developing world to foster sustainable economies, enhance food security to combat global hunger and increase resiliency to climate change. Addressing these challenges will require diverse strategies that emphasize sustainable, productive approaches that are directed by countries in the developing world.

But in the past decade, the United States has aggressively pursued foreign policies in food and agriculture that benefit the largest seed companies. The U.S. State Department has launched a concerted strategy to promote agricultural biotechnology, often over the opposition of the public and governments, to the near exclusion of other more sustainable, more appropriate agricultural policy alternatives.

The U.S. State Department has also lobbied foreign governments to adopt pro-agricultural biotechnology policies and laws, operated a rigorous public relations campaign to improve the image of biotechnology and challenged commonsense biotechnology safeguards and rules — even including opposing laws requiring the labeling of genetically engineered (GE) foods.

Food & Water Watch closely examined five years of State Department diplomatic cables from 2005 to 2009 to provide the first comprehensive analysis of the strategy, tactics and U.S. foreign policy objectives to foist pro-agricultural biotechnology policies worldwide. Read the full report to learn more.

DOWNLOAD THE PDF


More:

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/4/2/the_monsanto_protection_act_a_debate
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/4/2/foodopoly_the_battle_over_the_future
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/23/wikileaks_cables_reveal_us_sought_to
http://archive.truthout.org/wikileaks-us-ambassador-planned-retaliation-against-france-over-ban-monsanto-corn66131

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