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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsObama approval rating among Democrats
is 83 percent.
http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job2.htm#CBS
morningfog
(18,115 posts)emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Too many people think DU represents reality or real world democrats.
It doesn't - we are a very rarified group here, self-selected.
Lets not make the same mistake the freepers do - confusing a minority opinion for a majority one.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)any of the discussions of right and wrong.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Back in the day DU'ers gave a shit about the integrity and quality of our forum.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)of a consensus. You shouldn't either. Otherwise you could just leave comments on DNC and WH websites.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Mostly because it is being dominated by a handful of very loud shit-stirrers, nixon-style rat-fuckers, and Rove-paid "fake progressives" whose main interested is derailing real discussion.
Hyperbole, false narratives, half-truths and shoving words into people's mouth. Divide and Fucking Conquer. Ulitimate goal - Complete Republican Control so they can finish looting the country.
Too true.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)You think the democrats weren't pushing buttons focusing on the war against women. I'm tired of social issues being the only thing democrats focus on. Education is my number one issue, and the only solution democrats have come up with is privatization. I fell for the manipulation of the focus on the war on women this last election. Don't be so sure I will fall for the same pressure next time. Education is my number one issue and I am fed up with democrats ignoring the issue.
FUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS!
asjr
(10,479 posts)is privatization on education. Pres. Obama didn't manipulate the focus on the war on women. Where have you been?
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)You think that was an accident? His campaign staff knew each and every demographic they were going after and knew exactly how to target them and get them to vote. And yes the democrats' solution to education is privatization. Instead of fully funding public schools to fix the problems that are there they are funding charter schools who billionaires get to profit from. And the government is telling schools if they want funding they have to get a certain score on state standardized testing. You would think that if a school is struggling you would send them more resources especially considering the reason most of them are failing is because they are underfunded in the first place. But no, if you are a poor school and underperform on standardized tests you get less money. How is that helping our public schools?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)And you know who they are when arrive too.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)...merely because I'm not as willing as some to watch the Constitution get raped.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Don't think our paths have crossed before.
I have in mind posters like the departed BetterBelieveIt, who generated at least 6 or 8 original posts per day.
Hatchet jobs on Democrats, based on lies, half-truths, innuendo. Not a single one of his/her posts would survive a fact check, and she never ever said one single thing bad about Republicans.
Loud, full of hyperbole, shoving words into other peoples mouths, and tons of original posts spreading false narratives and disinformation.
Eventually he screwed up and started posting right-wing sources. Such a transparent fake leftist troll that admins led her to the door.
As I say, there are a handful here following that model - large number of daily original posts, false narratives about Democrats, and not a damn thing ever said against a Republican.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)I haven't been here as long as you, but I noticed the same kind of crap back in 2010, but this year it seems to be starting earlier, and is worse! I keep asking myself if all these people who are posting that the government is spying on them actually believe it? Why in the world would the government want to listen in on the average american in the first place, are these people who believe this actually living such an exciting life the government is tapping their phones?
I think I will go pull weeds in my garden now because my life is actually not very exciting!
olddots
(10,237 posts)wish I didn't but I agree
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)Anti-Bush. No matter the divergent views the progressives or DLC Democrats had on discrete issues, they could all come together on anti-Bush. Plus, it was a lot easier being in the minority party where all we had to do is bang on the walls from the outside.
Well, Bush ain't in office any more. And the issues of governing are a lot harder than just being in opposition. And now the fault lines between the "my party, right or wrong" and the "my principles, I don't care who's in office" camps are becoming more magnified.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)burnodo
(2,017 posts)now, not so much
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Hmmmm. Interesting.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)I can't make that judgement.
still_one
(92,394 posts)Demographic comes out ahead
If I go to a left or right forum I would like to think most people realize the views do not necessarily represent the general populous
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)in a democracy, i suppose it is important. all that matters, absolutly not. but pretty important, no?
Cha
(297,655 posts)burnodo
(2,017 posts)Bush approval among Republicans ~75%
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)so 75 percent of republicans is a lot fewer americans than 83 percent of dems.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)Was it to silence the dissenters by showing their opinion is in the minority?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)burnodo
(2,017 posts)nt
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)funny you take offense, though, at the posting of a good poll for the democratic president here on democraticunderground.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)"Why you posted this thread" Hmm. Doesn't seem absurd to me.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)but as democrats we can both be happy about this poll right?
burnodo
(2,017 posts)why did you post this thread? what did you intend to accomplish? The data is old. The data is consistent and not newsworthy. Why did you post this thread?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)and my reason for posting was so democrats like you and i could celebrate these great number for our president.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)i believe that
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)welcome to DU
burnodo
(2,017 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Or do you often post with no real idea of what you're getting at?
Games aside, the obvious reason you posted the OP was to create a bandwagon effect against those who disagree with a secret domestic surveillance program. If you'd care to put forth a less obvious motivation, please do so.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)why you think that is an odd thing to do on a democratic message board is an interesting question.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You've found me out. I'm a deep-cover plant who signed up in 2001, just so I could eventually ask why you're touting approval numbers at this particular juncture in time.
When you'd rather make this about my perceived character instead of the matter at hand, it doesn't really bode well for your argument.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)It's ALWAYS about those criticizing Obama, not about Obama and his actions
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)and don't the president's numbers look good!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)The President's numbers:
-Number of Americans the President is potentially spying on, with no plans to stop: ~300,000,000
-Number of years the President wanted to keep this secret from the targets of the spy program: 25
-Number of judges involved in signing a warrant for the largest dragnet in the history of dragnets: 1
-Number of FISA requests in calendar year 2012: 1789
-Number of FISA requests approved in calendar year 2012: 1789
-Number of public debates about the ongoing use of NSA surveillance: 0
morningfog
(18,115 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Let's see what the next one says.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)I've seen heated, angry, frustrated, over-the-top criticism of Democrats here at DU but everybody goes out every election and pulls the D lever.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
burnodo
(2,017 posts)He did what? He did WHAT?? HE DID WHAT?!?! It's ok...he's a Democrat.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)support for the war was never that high among Americans as a whole, much less dems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_popular_opinion_on_invasion_of_Iraq#cite_note-Polling_Report-2
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)I think we have a number of closet libertarians here. Just sayin'
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)good luck finding that type of poll.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)from the link you sent:
"information about U.S. persons" may be "incidentally acquired" in such pursuits. Targeting is not the same as collecting; the program may "target" foreign persons, but "acquire" information on Americans
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)reflected popular democratic opinion. It's just something to keep in mind when reading here,it has very little to do with anything,it's just a forum like any other forum and reflective of nothing but those who comment the most on this particular board.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I am reading the AOL boards circa 2003...
Almost the same talking points...just replace republican for democrat.
Free clue, it was wrong then, it is wrong now.
still_one
(92,394 posts)burnodo
(2,017 posts)nt
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Stay tuned for
#5 "This critique is demanding unicorns/ponies / pearl-clutching / poutrage."
#14 "This critique is a rightwing meme!"
#22 "We suspect an invisible racial component to this critique!"
#17 "This critique guarantees Republican success in the 20__ elections!"
#12 "Glen Greenwald once allied himself with a Libertarian; accordingly, critiques connected to him in any way are inherently traitorous / insane!"
And don't miss Newly Added Stock Response #241,
"Our civil rights have been screwed for YEARS now, so it no longer MATTERS!"
YeahSureRight
(205 posts)then they can have it, I will have nothing to do with it any longer.
I can be a selfish asshole too.
Marr
(20,317 posts)devastatingly powerful demographics who are going to throw the next election to the Republicans just by *saying* things.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)aren't they great?!
Marr
(20,317 posts)Obama has high approval numbers among Democrats. Democrats who are not happy with him are a fringe group.
Are you really going to pretend this was a random factoid you posted, completely free of context? Because if so, I'd just like to toss in a request for something giraffe-related next time. I like giraffes.