SEEDS OF DEATH

[Segami]

The leaders of Big Agriculture--Monsanto, DuPont, Syngenta--are determined that world's populations remain ignorant about the serious health and environmental risks of genetically modified crops and industrial agriculture. Deep layers of deception and corruption underlie both the science favoring GMOs and the corporations and governments supporting them.


This award-winning documentary, Seeds of Death, exposes the lies about GMOs and pulls back the curtains to witness our planet's future if Big Agriculture's new green revolution becomes our dominant food supply.


A Question and Answer fact sheet deconstructing Monsanto's GM claims and Big Agriculture's propaganda to accompany the film is available online:

http://prn.fm/2013/05/24/gary-null-and-richard-gale-seeds-of-death-understanding-the-deception-behind-gmos/#axzz2U3OTG9Mv

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. We don't seem to take GMOs seriously in this country

http://www.ehow.com/info_8527757_countries-banned-gmo-foods.html

[NYC_SKP]

2. Recommended. (nt)

[SidDithers]

3. Gary Null is a fucking idiot...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gary_Null

He once had to sue his own supplement company, because his Gary Null ultimate Power Meal gave him vitamin D poisoning.

Edit: oh, I almost forgot. He's of course an anti-vax nutbar, and an AIDS denier.

Gary Null has zero credibility.

Sid

[Segami]

4. Have you watched the video?

[SidDithers]

5. Have you researched whose video you're promoting?...

The anti-GMO, anti-Monsanto movement is filled with anti-science cranks. You should run, not walk, away from anything to do with Gary Null.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2013/05/31/gary-null-cultivator-of-dangerous-woo-plants-seeds-of-death/#.UcKUTcu9KSM

In addition to his promotion of alternative cancer treatments, Null has argued that HIV is harmless and does not cause AIDS. In his [2002] book AIDS: A Second Opinion, Null questioned the role of antiretroviral medication and instead advocated a range of dietary supplements for HIV-positive individuals.

Sid

[Segami]

6. But...what about Monsanto?

Do you believe Monsanto & GMO's are nothing more than innocent victims to baseless claims made by these so called " anti-GMO, anti-Monsanto and anti-science cranks "?

[wisechoice]

9. from the same blog

"And by the way, it's so funny that Keith Kloor tries to make Null like like nothing but a money-grubbing huckster by including a photograph of a bottle of Null's brand of vitamin supplements. AND YET, Kloor totally doesn't even MENTION that Monsanto is attempting to make inconceivable multi-billions by patenting the genome of life, and suing farmers who try to re-plant their seed, as would occur in nature. Null's vitamin business is negligible and meaningless in the face of Monsanto's inconceivable greed, recklessness, and disregard for human life. "

[Segami]

10. Ooops.....

[SidDithers]

19. Well, that's a comment on the article...

From some poster who is also holding Dr. Oz up as some paragon of medical research.

Oops.

Sid

[wisechoice]

22. and you hold monsanto as a saviour

[SidDithers]

24. And you trust the word of an anti-vax quack...

who thinks HIV doesn't cause AIDS, that retrovirals don't work, and that AIDS can be treated with food supplements. (Which, if course, he's happy to sell you)

Sid

[wisechoice]

34. Nope. I don't trust Monsanto

And I don't care where the message is from as far as the message is true. And you don't care if the GMO crops are from Monsanto because you think GMOs are good.

[SidDithers]

37. ROFL...

Keep trying to put words in my mouth.

Sid

[wisechoice]

40. All GMOs are from Monsanto

or from similar corporations. They should be banned. If the origin of into is not acceptable, why then you want to accept GMO? Double standard

[SidDithers]

42. You've got no idea what you're talking about...

Researchers are using a genetically modified herpes virus to attack ovarian and breast cancers, and they're not controlled by Monsanto, or any other similar corporation.

And you think it should be banned. You sound like George Bush talking about stem cells.

Sid

[wisechoice]

45. no. you are putting words into my mouth

I don't wand food from gmos. Until they are tested completely and proven safe. Untested crops, once we use for cultivation, cannot be recalled. And label the gmos.

[SidDithers]

7. Quack record

Bestselling health and fitness guru Gary Null weighs in on AIDS. Almost all of what he says is useless, dangerous and just plain wrong.
http://www.salon.com/2002/05/21/null/

Sid

[wisechoice]

8. and all of what monsanto does is wrong

Why are you so eager to throw mud on one guy who is part of this documentary while ignoring what Monsanto is doing?

[SidDithers]

17. He's not just "one guy who is part of this documentary"...

He's the fucking filmmaker.

Sid

[wisechoice]

23. talk about guys who does more harm

Monsanto goes and sues farmers. Do you want to talk about it?

[SidDithers]

25. Monsanto is an evil, monopolistic super-corporation...

I don't need to go to an AIDS denier quack to tell me that. There are lots of reputable journalists and scientists talking, rationally, about Monsanto and GMOs. Go and find some of them.

But all too often, it's the right wing libertarian, crank, anti-vax, anti-fluoridation, AIDS denialist, supplement pushers who get promoted by posters like you.

Give us some Alex Jones. You know you're just itching to.

Sid

[wisechoice]

35. You promote Monsanto

Tell me this
1) Do you think it is safe to change genes and release food without testing
2) Do you think Monsanto has done long term studies of the effects of these foods

GMOs might be good. But not those from corporations that don't test it enough since they are too greedy to make more money in a short time.

[SidDithers]

38. And here we see the techniques so well described in this other thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023053152

Anti-GMO using the same techniques as dumbass anti-vaxxers.

"You promote Monsanto".

Keep trying.

Sid

[wisechoice]

41. avoiding the questions

Nice tactics

[SidDithers]

43. The truth hurts, eh?...nt

Sid

[avaistheone1]

11. The European Union and much of the rest of the world are dumping Monsanto seeds.

Their GMO seeds are crap and so are they as corporation. They are evil incarnate.

[SidDithers]

16. So post that information...

Bringing Gary Null to DU isn't the way to make your argument.

Sid

[avaistheone1]

27. This should help.

This is just the start you can google more countries:


http://www.examiner.com/article/what-countries-have-banned-gmo-crops

http://www.naturalnews.com/040841_GM_seeds_Monsanto_global_agriculture.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2013/0425/Peru-says-no-to-GMO

http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/gmo-not-wanted

http://now.msn.com/hungary-burns-1000-acres-of-gmo-corn-crops

[SidDithers]

28. OMFG...

I ask you to consider using rational, science-based sources, and the first site in your list is naturalnews.



Sid

[avaistheone1]

30. Put up or shut up! Can you prove the information than about any of these countries rejecting GMO

foods is untrue? Or are you simply stirring the pot?

[SidDithers]

33. No, and it's not my intention to reject your premise...

it was my hope that you, and other DUers, would more careful in your choice of sources. I know that countries are rejecting GMO foods, but when your first link (nice edit btw) is to naturalnews, it tells me that you really don't know anything about the issue, but are googling like mad, and posting the first links that show up.

Do you know anything at all about naturalnews, and Mike Adams, the nutbar who runs it? If you don't, why are you trusting what he's got to say?

Sources are important. Every day, we mentally screen our information based on source. We don't trust what Matt Drudge posts, or Tucker Carlson, or Fox News, or Bill Kristol or any number of other political writers. Why are we so credulous when it comes anti-science medical woo sources like Gary Null or Mike Adams?

Sid

[wisechoice]

36. But that is not what your replies look like

You want to call anti-GMOs as weirdos.

[SidDithers]

39. Then you're not actually reading them...nt

Sid

[BrotherIvan]

12. Jesus...

You defend Monsato too? Now I'm impressed.

[SidDithers]

15. Jesus. You defend an AIDS denier? I'm not surprised in the least...nt

Sid

[BrotherIvan]

29. Um...I didn't defend anyone in this thread

But you gotta have some issues to side with Monsato on anything.

And is that Bernie Sanders in your Avatar? Is that your new undercover persona? It totally fooled me!

[SidDithers]

31. And I didn't defend Monsanto. I criticized the use of Gary Null...

If a post about cute kittens quoted Gary Null, I would be just as strident about using him as a source.

Sid

[ReRe]

13. Seeds of Death, full Doc

K&R

Sagami, I can not thank you enough for this super-informative documentary. Everyone needs to mark it. You will eventually run into someone on DU who wants to know what is wrong with GMO foods. Just point them to this Doc.

[PBass]

14. Gary Null is indeed a kook. And yes, it matters a lot.

It would be like watching a documentary that criticizes Obama and has interviews with Alex Jones or Lyndon Larouche. It undermines the credibility, even if the documentary was otherwise making a good argument.

[NickB79]

18. "New" Green Revolution? The Green Revolution happened decades ago

The Green Revolution is 40 years past already, and the open-pollinated, heirloom seed producers lost. The future of our food has been in the hands of Big Ag since then, first with hybrid seed stocks (which don't breed true from saved seed) and now with GMO seed stocks (which will get you sued if you try to save your own).

Too little, too late.

[SidDithers]

20. More from Gary Null...

Vaccines - The Toxic Truth

The good "Doctor" is an anti-science crank, who thinks vaccines are more dangerous than the diseases they prevent.

Sid

[MineralMan]

21. Considering the source of this video, Gary Null,

I'll pass, thanks.

[mike_c]

26. anti-science quackery....

No thanks.

[Progressive dog]

32. +1

"God Move Over", was far enough for me.

[Liberal_in_LA]

44. thanks for posting this