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Psephos

(8,032 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:02 AM Jul 2013

It Is Now Common Knowledge That US Drones Bomb Civilian Rescuers

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-drones-bomb-civilian-rescuers-2013-7

Excerpt:

A U.S. drone strike killed at least 17 people in Pakistan's tribal region on Wednesday, Reuters reports. Taliban commanders and security officials told Reuters that the strike mostly killed fighters for the Haqqani network.

Many were wounded in the attack, local tribesman Kaleemullah Dawar said, but rescuers delayed for fear of falling victim to a second attack, a common tactic with drone strikes. That tactic is known as the "double tap," which bombs multiple targets in relatively quick succession — meaning that the second strike often hits first responders.

Last year a study by the NYU School of Law and Stanford Law School detailed the U.S. use of the double tap, providing first-hand accounts of its devastating effect on rescuers and humanitarian workers. Last June the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings Christof Heyns said he considers secondary strikes to be "war crimes."

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This is an abomination.
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It Is Now Common Knowledge That US Drones Bomb Civilian Rescuers (Original Post) Psephos Jul 2013 OP
Thats a war crime under any law except Obama's. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #1
Name something about this whole disaster that isn't. We replaced one war criminal with another Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #2
double tap is a terrorist tactic.. frylock Jul 2013 #3
look..over there...snowden nt msongs Jul 2013 #4
In Fallujah during Bush I read a report that we bombed a hospital... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #5
A 2007 report by the Homeland Security Institute called the double tap a "favorite tactic of Hamas" Kolesar Jul 2013 #6
We have been doing this with cluster bombs for years... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #7
You just don't understand chess Doctor_J Jul 2013 #8
Haqqani Network arely staircase Jul 2013 #9
I'm pretty sure Petraeus was fired because of war crimes. reusrename Jul 2013 #10
This is the shit terrorists do. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #11
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
2. Name something about this whole disaster that isn't. We replaced one war criminal with another
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:14 AM
Jul 2013

war criminal. If we didn't have the biggest stick in the world, we would be judged a rouge nation and sanctioned by the civilized world.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
5. In Fallujah during Bush I read a report that we bombed a hospital...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:30 AM
Jul 2013

Then we waited for the survivors to set up triage outside and then we hit them again.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
6. A 2007 report by the Homeland Security Institute called the double tap a "favorite tactic of Hamas"
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jul 2013

A 2007 report by the Homeland Security Institute called the double tap a "favorite tactic of Hamas" and the FBI considers it a tactic employed by terrorists.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/drone-double-tap-first-responders-2012-9#ixzz2YvNDMYIM

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
7. We have been doing this with cluster bombs for years...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jul 2013

they can be set to explode on contact or start a timer on contact. The goal is to cause initial damage with the first half, then get the first responders, like medics, when they come to help. We are a barbaric bunch.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
9. Haqqani Network
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jul 2013
Ideology and goals[edit]

The Haqqani Network's root values are Islamic and Nationalistic. They seek to re-establish sharia law, a law derived from Islamic moral and religious values, as the nation's pillar of government. They are ideologically aligned with the Taliban, who has worked to eradicate Western influence and restructure the government into a strictly Sharia-following state. This was exemplified in the government that formed after Soviet Troops were driven from Afghanistan. Both groups have the common goal of disrupting the Western military and political efforts in Afghanistan and driving them from the country permanently.[8] Currently the group demands that US and Coalition Forces, made up mostly of NATO Nations, withdraw from Afghanistan and no longer interfere with the politics or educational systems of Islamic nations.[8]

Al-Qaeda affiliation[edit]

Jalaluddin Haqqani commanded the Mujahideen Army from 1980-1992, he is credited with recruiting foreign fighters. Two notable jihadist are two well known Arabs, Abdullah Azzam and Osama bin Laden, both began their careers as volunteers for the Haqqani’s and trained to fight the Soviets. “Al-Qa’ida and the Haqqani network, in other words, evolved together, and they have remained intertwined throughout their history. They remain so to this day.[13] The Haqqani Network's relationship with Al-Qaeda dates back to the founding of the AQ. The significant difference between the two organizations is that Al-Qaeda's goals are global and use global means; whereas Haqqani is solely interested in Afghanistan and the Pashtun Tribal regions. To Jalaluddin Haqqani he is more interested in the influence of Islamic Law over Afghanistan than the global Jihad. Nonetheless the Haqqani Network has always been fully aware of Al-Qaeda's intentions and goals.

Attacks and alleged attacks[edit]
14 January 2008: 2008 Kabul Serena Hotel attack is thought[by whom?] to have been carried out by the network.[19]
March 2008: Kidnapping of British journalist Sean Langan was blamed on the network.[50]
27 April 2008: Assassination attempts on Hamid Karzai.[6]
7 July 2008: US intelligence blamed the network for 2008 Indian embassy bombing in Kabul.[51]
10 November 2008: The Kidnapping of David Rohde was blamed on Sirajuddin Haqqani.[52]
30 December 2009: Camp Chapman attack is thought[by whom?] to have been carried out by the network.[53]
18 May 2010: May 2010 Kabul bombing was allegedly[by whom?] carried out by the network.[54]
19 February 2011: Kabul Bank in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.[55]
28 June 2011: According to ISAF, elements of the Haqqani network provided "material support" in the 2011 attack on the Hotel Inter-Continental in Kabul.[56] The Taliban claimed responsibility.[57]
10 September 2011: A massive truck bomb exploded outside Combat Outpost Sayed Abad in Wardak province, Afghanistan, killing five Afghans, including four civilians, and wounding 77 U.S. soldiers, 14 Afghan civilians, and three policemen. The Pentagon blamed the network for the attack.[58]
12 September 2011: US Ambassador Ryan Crocker blamed the Haqqani network for an attack on the US Embassy and nearby NATO bases in Kabul. The attack lasted 19 hours and resulted in the deaths of four police officers and four civilians. 17 civilians and six NATO soldiers were injured. Three coalition soldiers were killed. Eleven insurgent attackers were killed.[59]
October 2011: Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security said that six people arrested in an alleged plot to assassinate President Karzai had ties to the Haqqani network.[60]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haqqani_network
 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
10. I'm pretty sure Petraeus was fired because of war crimes.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jul 2013

The chronology is too precise for it to be anything else.

He was in charge of the drone program when the "double tap" drone strikes occurred.

These were the strikes that targeted emergency responders in violation of the First Geneva Convention. Any "grave breach" in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party is a war crime under US law.

The "double tap" strikes were made public about a month before Obama's re-election, Petraeus was asked to resign a couple of days after the vote. About a month later the UN announced the investigation into the attacks.

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