2, 4, 6, 8, who do we appreciate?

[cali]

Planned Parenthood, the ACLU and the Center for Reproductive Rights are great!

Rah, rah and pom pom toss.

With the shit storm of anti abortion laws that have been passed over the past several years, these organizations have been in the forefront of bringing the cases challenging these laws.

They need donations now more than ever to keep up their work challenging these laws.

If you have a few extra bucks, maybe you could consider tossing it in their specific direction.

http://reproductiverights.org/

http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/


http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom/aclu-and-planned-parenthood-challenge-wisconsin-law-would-close-half-states

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/26/north-dakota-pro-choice-advocates-file-lawsuit-against-strict-abortion-law/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

[GeorgeGist]

1. Already done ...

ACLU and Planned Parenthood.

But I think I'll send PP some more.

[cali]

2. I'll have to add you to my appreciation chant.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. I already donate to PP, ACLU, and NARAL. But, I urge more people to do the same. K&R

[cali]

6. Thanks. This Texas law is going to be expensive to challenge

and tough.

What would we do without these invaluable organizations?

[Laelth]

4. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[MineralMan]

5. And which political party is it that supports

women's rights, cali? Which party is on that side? How does President Obama feel about women's rights?

There are hundreds of issues where political parties have a distinct difference between them. This is one of those.

[cali]

7. have I EVER said that the dems (by and large) don't support women's rights, MM? NO

fucking of course not, but these are social issues, and important as they are, they don't mean much without economic justice.

But thanks for illustrating the principle of distraction so vividly, MM.

Now, have YOU donated?

[MineralMan]

8. Yes. I've been donating for years.

Beyond that, I've done escort work at PP clinics many times when things got tense.

I've also been working to elect Democrats to offices at all levels, for that and other reasons. Thanks for asking.

I know you took my point. I'll keep making it, too.

[cali]

9. your point, MM, is inane as I've been pointing out for years

well before YOU joined DU and while you were, shall we say, making very different arguments than those you now make, that there are differences between the two parties. I was also working to elect democrats while you were working to elect repukes.

I know you took my point.

[MineralMan]

12. You're quite incorrect.

I have worked on Democratic campaigns since 1964. I have worked for women's reproductive rights for the same length of time. You are simply wrong, bless your heart.

[cali]

14. hard to know who to believe: MM or... MM

In any case, I want to say just this: Why enter a thread like this one just to take petty shots at me? I expect you to deny that, so do tell why did you comment in this thread. Clearly it wasn't to advance the message in the op.

[MineralMan]

17. Why enter this thread? Because you've been posting OPs daily to tell everyone

how much you dislike the President and even to decry a woman who may be a candidate in 2016. Both are Democrats. Both are staunch supporters of women's rights, including their reproductive rights. Those are very important issues, and yet you don't mention either the President's support of those issues or Hillary Clinton's support of them.

That's why I enter this thread. I'm calling on you to give credit where it is due on issues where that credit goes to elected Democrats currently serving in office. I'm asking you to be fair, and to give credit when it is due, rather than only going on the attack.

I do not expect it, but I will continue to ask for it in threads like these. I will continue to point out that support for these other important issues from our President and our elected Democratic representatives.

[cali]

20. That's patently false. I've posted repeatedly that I like President Obama

Why just make shit up?

I've repeatedly given credit to dems for supporting reproductive rights- though I do think that dems in Congress should be speaking up more about it given the onslaught of new laws.

Now post links to those threads of mine where I post how much I dislike President Obama. Put up or.... well, you know, MM.

"The President has been Progressive on social issues and I give him credit for it."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023199894

"Yes, President Obama is a Corporate Capitalist. No, that's not bashing him. I like him. I think he genuinely cares about people. I think he cares about keeping a social safety net intact, and I commend him for that, but he is a Corporate Capitalist. The evidence for that is overwhelming. It's reflected in appointment after appointment. It's reflected in his policies. Are there places where he bucks it a bit? Yes, but they aren't nearly enough to tip the scales."
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023182705

"I like President Obama in many ways, and I like some of the things he's done in office."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022624645

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021586628

[ProSense]

10. In Planned Parenthood's own words,

"Which party is on that side? How does President Obama feel about women's rights? "

...from it home page.

Obamacare and You
How you'll benefit from the Affordable Care Act.

What Does Obamacare Mean for Me?
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/41353.htm

2010:

<...>

“The Affordable Care Act represents the greatest advancement for women’s health care in 45 years,” said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. “The new law will cover more women, increase access to reproductive health care, and ease the disproportionate health care burdens on women, who still earn less than men but often face higher health care costs.”

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/planned-parenthood-celebrates-implementation-key-benefits-health-law-women-families-start-benef-33647.htm

President Obama Stands With Planned Parenthood
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002489276

[MineralMan]

11. Indeed. President Obama is an ally of women

in their quest for reproductive rights. It's one more area where he has proven himself.

There are many other areas, too, as you have been so kind as to point out many times.

[foo_bar]

16. is irony a mineral?

I have no real problem with requiring parental notification or even consent for minors, as long as there is a judicial option for those few cases where incest is involved.

As you may know, I'm not a pro-lifer. I'm not a huge pro-choicer, either. <...>

17 posted on 9/1/2006 3:50:36 PM by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1693928/posts

Newsbabe alert:

2 posted on 2/9/2006 2:58:52 PM by MineralMan (godless atheist)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1575339/posts

Obama is an idiot. <...>

114 posted on 9/26/2006 11:04:48 AM by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1706416/posts?page=113

Obama is not going to be elected President of the United States. The story is irrelvant.

posted on 3/10/2006 9:34:36 AM by MineralMan (godless atheist)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1593766/posts

IMO, Ahnuld is just a Democrat in Republican clothing. He supports nothing that is Conservative in nature and much that is Liberal.

<...>

At least McClintock is true to his beliefs. Personally, I think we Californians should ask Ahnuld to step out of the race and vote for McClintock.(*)

33 posted on 9/25/2003 2:08:15 PM by MineralMan (godless atheist)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/989350/posts

(*) "When it comes to reproductive rights, violence against women, family medical leave, women’s health care and gender discrimination, McClintock and Strickland have opposed the fundamental rights of women year after year."
http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/site/mcclintock-and-strickland-too-extreme-california-record

[MineralMan]

19. You can quote all of the out-of-context stuff you wish.

I was on that site for a reason. I was banned from that site for that reason. Goodbye.

[cali]

21. transparency- it's a good thing.

[Maven]

24. Pwned.

[rhett o rick]

26. I am a Democrat and have been for quite a few years. Because I am a Democrat I

will hold my Democratic representatives to Democratic principles. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there are Democrats that have Republican ideologies. Anyone can call themselves a Democrat. Chris Christie could switch parties, and I would not support him. I support Democratic principles over Democratic personalities. IMO it's a trait of Democrats to have open minds and question those they elect. Blindly following an authoritarian leader isnt Democratic IMO.

I think it's swell that Ms. Clinton favors women's rights. But will she be able to turn around the rapid rise of poverty?

[MineralMan]

28. I'm not sure that any President, alone, will be able to turn poverty around.

That's why my energy is focused on legislative elections, primarily. That is where the power lies in our system. And it starts at the local city council and school boards. County boards and state legislatures are next. Even our Congress is based on local representation.

Presidential and gubernatorial elections are important, but without the support of carefully-chosen legislatures, nothing happens. Our system is designed to have a relatively weak executive and a strong legislative structure. Since it came to be because a tyrannical monarchy, that's a natural development.

So, since real power lies in the legislative bodies, that's where my attention is focused.

GOTV 2014 and Beyond!

[rhett o rick]

30. I agree that our president is mainly a figurehead. The power lies with the lobbyist/legislation

connection and the aristocratic SCOTUS.

[MineralMan]

31. Oddly enough, lobbying can be done by any group.

Many non-profits also lobby heavily. As for the SCOTUS, its makeup changes from time to time. Right now, it's heavy on the conservative side. The termless nature of justices was one of the things the authors included to keep that court from being subject to political changes. Sometimes that has worked out, and sometimes it hasn't, depending on your perspective.

Setting terms for Congress and the Executive was also deliberate, and overlap, to prevent a wholesale change in the legislature on the whim of the voters. Making terms unlimited for the SCOTUS was one more measure to limit political fluctuations.

Now, if the Justices were all objective and apolitical, it would work very well. As it has turned out, that hasn't been the case, so we sometimes end up with a partisan SCOTUS. I don't think that's what the founders had in mind. Impeachment is always possible, but hasn't worked out very well as a final check and balance for SCOTUS.

It's all very interesting, if you look at it from a distance. It's a little frightening, though, if you look at it from a particular perspective.

Our system is designed to preserve the status quo, and to make drastic change so difficult that it is almost impossible. That was deliberate on the part of the founders. How well that idea has worked, though, is open to question. But the founders provided a safety valve. The Constitution can be rewritten at any time, if there is the will to do so, and the support of the public. Amendments we have had in some numbers. A Constitutional Convention, though, that rewrites the entire document has not yet occurred. It may, though, in the future. That is the final check and balance.

[rhett o rick]

32. Our founders never intended the SCOTUS to have so much power.

The legislative is the most important and included in article 1. The Executive in article 2. And the SCOTUS was given very limited authority in article 3, which did not include judicial review.

And Roberts is making a mess with our status quo with rulings like Citizen's United.

[CrispyQ]

13. I put PP in my will last year. It felt really good!

Glad to see the ACLU's involvement. I will send a few bucks to all of them.

~kick

[broiles]

15. We have ACLU in our will.

[CrispyQ]

18. A great organization.

I just renewed my membership.

[Autumn]

22. I donate to PP and the ACLU. I will look into

reproductiverights. Great post cali.

[cali]

23. Thank you Autumn. I'm sorry to say that there were mean spirited, petty attempts

to derail the OP, and that I fell for it.

These are the three organizations that have done virtually all the work on challenging laws enacted that curtail abortion rights.

[Autumn]

25. It's all good cali. You reminded people just who the organizations are

that do the heavy work in these fights we face and need our support. When people have to resort to that, you know you are on the right track. Keep it up and just ignore the pettiness.

[BornLooser]

27. Well done , as usual, thx for the links...you know...the real story here, sheesh.

[11 Bravo]

29. Great post! (Bookmarked to save the links.)