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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLooks like the Z-trial jury deliberated through lunch.
Good...verdict appears imminent ....say by 4 pm - 5 pm per my guess. Oh...I saw this tidbit on MSNBC. Probably discussing degree of murder. Not guilty would not require detailed discussion ....All in my opinion.Just Saying
(1,799 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)not be released until a weekday.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)If so, that is stupid. If he is guilty, he should be taken straight to prison, if he is innocent, he should be allowed to know that, and go on his way.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The Defendant will be placed in 'jail' until the penalty phase has been concluded, then after that he would be transferred to a prison.
In the Jodi Arias case she was found guilty by the jury - then during the penalty phase it was a hung jury. The guilty verdict stands but the penalty phase will be redone, the trial resumes July 18th. Arias is being held in a 'jail' not a 'prison'.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)but isn't that a bit unfair in the process?
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...do you have a source to that request?
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)and the dark horse the rode in on...
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)from what I read. Trayvon was from Miami.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Then the overturned cop card won't easily be able to be set on fire.
They shouldn't give a tinker's damn about when the cops want them to do something.
Why not ask them to wait till welfare checks go out. Then all the black people will be too drunk off malt liquor to drive their Caddys to the scene of the riot.
The jury shouldn't do shit for the cops.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)for obvious stereotyping, and because juries don't work for the police department.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Rainy Season now in Florida.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Just Saying
(1,799 posts)I'll have to look for more information.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,941 posts)although I profess ignorance to the process. Personally, I'm hoping for guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I wouldn't read too much into the wait, its only been about 8 hours.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)He was one of my favorite actors from the time I saw "In Cold Blood." But, he didn't handle old age well. I was really surprised he got off on that one, although the victim did play him pretty well.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)"Jurors will pause deliberations from 12:00-1:00pm to eat lunch on site."
Michelle Kennedy, Public Information Officer for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit.
Just Saying
(1,799 posts)The judge said she will allow the jurors to set their own working hours. The six women worked through lunch on Saturday.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)over a reporter who didn't give a source.
Just Saying
(1,799 posts)From the word of the court, that statement was issued before lunch and its now well past lunchtime in Florida.
On edit: I personally don't consider an unverified twitter account "official."
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Reports about the jurors working through lunch were out before that tweet. There has been no correction or update since. You go ahead and verify that account. The reporters who have been in the courtroom throughout the whole trial have been relying on information from that account all along. I would imagine they got the account info directly from the information officer.
Just Saying
(1,799 posts)But just for future reference, an account on twitter without a blue verified check could be anybody. Tons of fake accounts on there.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)I sense we all have sat at our desk and ate our lunch while working in one way or another. Point being..they want to resolve the issues and go home....likely tonight.
If there was a lone wolfe holdout...they would of taken a normal off site lunch for a change of mood stimulation. I personally think they are working out the details of degree of murder....tightening up loose ends.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Your posts are entirely speculative. Stop with this BS of trying to predict what's happening in the jury room. You have no friggin clue.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)please review and note that indeed, I identified this as my sense and my opinion.
I enjoy discussion and have no intention of caring about your needs. You can correct that issue by moving into another thread or stay, engage in discussion but do do so without the controlling attitude... Your choice.
Thank you for sharing my friend.
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that's a little over the top isn't it? I mean internet message boards are pretty much full of people posting their speculation about all sorts of things.
Just Saying
(1,799 posts)We can't know for sure in which direction but if they all had reasonable doubt it seems like they could come to that fairly quickly so it's more likely there's either a hold out or they're deciding exactly what he's guilty of. Just speculation based on what makes the most sense.
markiv
(1,489 posts)i really like lunch
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)... ever since the OJ trial that nowadays juries do NOT come out real quick with a 'guilty' verdict.
They said that since the jury went into deliberations on Friday that they'd probably wait until at least Monday to announce a verdict - due to 'optics' not because if they've reached a verdict or not.
They talked about one case where the jury said they decided on a guilty verdict on a Friday but waited till Monday to tell everyone.
That's all I know
p.s. Could have been Mark Geragos that said the above.
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Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I would think that they would want to go home to their families.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)FarPoint
(12,409 posts)Now let me look into my teacup and say this....by reading the mini-bio of the 6 jurist from the NYT posted here on DU today, I sense only one to hold out for not-guilty...the gal from Iowa is my pick.
I couldn't find the post...so here is a link from the Miami newspaper....
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/13/3498618/a-look-at-the-jurors-for-george.html
markiv
(1,489 posts)1992 taught us that there can definately be a wrong place and time to be when a verdict is out
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)You just said you would avoid 'some areas' - please elaborate. Do you know something the rest of us don't? I live in Central Florida. If there are areas that I should avoid until the verdict is out, I'd appreciate knowing those areas.
markiv
(1,489 posts)perhaps you should avoid places where conservatives gather?
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)markiv
(1,489 posts)to them, it's a murder 1400 miles away, they care more about the murders that occur with 50 miles
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)Of course we kinda figured that out already
markiv
(1,489 posts)and how does NOT having an opinion on a case far away make you 'a member of group 'x''
frankly i wouldnt care to part of any group that mandates having an opinion of every single issue, and seeks to 'expose' anyone who doesnt - sounds kinda jackboot, to me
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)We know damn well what you mean about staying out of 'some areas'
markiv
(1,489 posts)because as a thread grows longer, the probablity of that being tossed about approaches 1
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)markiv
(1,489 posts)you go there often?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)You are being disgusting!
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I don't think it will come until Monday.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)because I feel a verdict tonight! The jury asked for clarification of instructions for manslaughter....I sense they are pulling it all together right now.....I smell a guilty verdict from Florida. Just my simple opinion.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Warpy
(111,270 posts)and working through lunch to sort through all the contradictions.