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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOpinion: As a former rail engineer, I need to speak out
In my view, what happened in Lac-Mégantic is linked to the continent-wide, 30-year erosion of rules, procedures, equipment and infrastructure in the rail industry, and a culture of corporate acquisition by non-railroad interests that has led to deferred maintenance and deep cost cutting.
We all need to speak out for the sake of the people who move our planes, trains and trucks with inadequate support and respect for their health and welfare. We need to speak out for the safety of those who live close to our transport infrastructures and to renew our critical railway infrastructure to make up for deferred maintenance and decay. We also shouldnt let Lac-Mégantic be turned into a sales pitch for pipelines. Pipelines do not carry hydrocyanic acid and chlorine and other hazardous materials, and they will not save you in the middle of the night. The men and women I worked with will.
The full article at http://www.montrealgazette.com/Opinion+former+rail+engineer+need+speak/8652746/story.html
hardcover
(255 posts)Derailments are usually caused by shoddily kept track. Trains carry hazardous chemicals in outdated tankers in poor condition often break open in a derailment. They will also pull too many of those tankers on one train. Anything to cut costs.
If the tracks were maintained properly and up-to-date tankers were used, there would be far less chance of derailment in the first place, but in the event of a derailment, better tankers would withstand the impact without exploding.
Where there should be two levels of safety, there are none.
I call it criminal.
I am concerned about remote controlled trains too but I don't know enough about them to comment.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)the corrosive damages wrought by the corporate megalomaniacs who've usurped our media, our politics and our global economy.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)misfortune of spending some gutter time in glitzy places with sub-human parasites. Without writing a book, their business philosophy is: If they're too weak and stupid to stop us they deserve it.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)As if they were born in a bubble!
That said, I think you summed up their stupid and sociopathic philosophy quite nicely.
-Laelth
chervilant
(8,267 posts)of their hubris is their paternalism: we are like (unruly, ungrateful, unwashed...) children, and they are our benevolent, wise parents leaders.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)Not Sure
(735 posts)Berkshire Hathaway owns BNSF Railway, which was not part of this derailment.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)of the problem.
Not Sure
(735 posts)BH doesn't control CSX either, by the way.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)cause I've been in a few interesting meetings.
Not Sure
(735 posts)particularly the ones that aren't union and treat the employees like shit. Yes, it's not all roses at one of the big railroads, but anyone that tells me to violate a safety rule can go fuck themselves. I owe that attitude to a good union and a company that doesn't just pay lip service to safety, but actually embraces following the rules. I don't agree with every priority and every decision, but we're not running key trains on FRA excepted track.
elleng
(130,974 posts)Warren Buffet/Berkshire Hathaway acquires healthy entities, and thrives while doing so and helping them continue to thrive. Burlington Northern/Santa Fe is one of those, and its health continues.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)elleng
(130,974 posts)and know something about them. Has nothing to do with pr.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)byeya
(2,842 posts)could the train still have rolled downhill if the brakes on the engines became inoperable?
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)If you engaged every hand brake on the cars, nothing would have moved.
The problem is, you're talking 78 cars on a train over a half mile long, which would have entailed the single crew member to climb up on each car, and wind the hand brake.
Another problem, when he parked the train, he was on the verge of violating the Hours of Service Law. He cannot under any circumstances work longer than that. They used to fine the company for violations, but about 15 years ago, the switched the responsibility to the employee, and he's in for some hefty fines if he violates it.
There are not enough crew members on these trains. Add shitty rolling stock, shitty rail, barely safe locomotives, greedy executives, and you have a recipe for major disasters.
byeya
(2,842 posts)Not Sure
(735 posts)In other words, the only way to know whether the number of handbrakes set is enough is to release the air brakes and test the handbrakes. If more are required, they must be set and the release test must be conducted again. If the grade is steep enough, that could mean all handbrakes on all cars and locomotives. If it's relatively flat, it may only mean a few handbrakes. In all cases, though, all locomotive handbrakes must be secured.
The handbrakes on the locomotives may be counted against the total number of handbrakes required to secure the train. From what I understand, the locomotives were separated from the train at some point - possibly during the locomotive fire response - which would reduce the number of handbrakes securing the train.
This railroad apparently operates one man crews (which is utterly ridiculous and completely unsafe). The locomotive engineer was responsible for securing the train and testing the handbrakes, which the railroad attests, was done. If that's true, then the answer to your question: "could the train still have rolled downhill if the [air] brakes on the engines became inoperable?" is no, unless the number of handbrakes was reduced by releasing them or by removing them from the train. The idea behind testing the handbrakes by releasing the air brakes is to plan for failure of the air brakes and verify the train will remain secured.
The quoted piece is a good one. I would recommend reading it in its entirety. I completely agree with the authors comments.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)the fireman or brakeman in the caboose and one of their trains ripped up miles of track and another started a slew of fires somewhere between Rumford and Livermore Falls. On the flip side they did save the price of the brakeman's salary.
AllyCat
(16,189 posts)We are going through this now at the hospital where I work. Management does not want to make any of the changes or improvements to help patient and worker safety. It's just too expensive while they make multi-millions of dollars as a non-profit hospital.
Organized labor brings greater safety to America!
Not Sure
(735 posts)mrsadm
(1,198 posts)WOW
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Just call the North American Continent: AynRandLand. Or Corporatland.
Only beholden' to the bottom line, not humankind.
I don't know if you and Joe Goodrich are one and the same person, but thank you for this OP. My heart goes out to that poor community up in Canada that was literally vaporized last Saturday. As of a CNN news report while ago, 33 dead and 30 still missing. Yes, we need to bring Unions and the safety they provide back to America.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)I just stumbled across this well written Op-ed today.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Tien1985
(920 posts)Almost 10 years--and yeah, our train tracks are terrible. There are very few passager trains. In fact, when I first moved here, I didn't think they used their RR at all.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)But the rail owners risk management figured that paying off a lawsuit over a deadly derailment was cheaper than doing the needed maintenance.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)but the BNSF along the Mississippi river in my Wisconsin town has really been working over the tracks, seemingly suddenly. The BNSF hauls a LOT of oil cars along this route, upping the numbers of trains passing through to a large amount.
I have been along that beautiful lake in Quebec, and have looked at the 'before' and 'after' pictures of the devastation and can only think that is could/can be any town along the river here.....
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)being shipped to refineries by rail.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)byeya
(2,842 posts)be required on all trains. Industry outspent safety advocates maybe 100 to 1 and cabooses were eliminated. That made is easier to reduce crew sizes and introduce a new era of rail hazard.