Breaking on M$NBComcast - everyone is heading back to the Courtroom

[malaise]

Don't know why - stand by folks

Could be as simple as another jury question - could be the verdict

[CatWoman]

1. thanks M

[malaise]

11. Defendant there now - judge there too n/t

[BainsBane]

2. the jury wants testimony read back

and lawyers need to fight about what exactly should be read. That's my guess. This is not a verdict.

[Nevernose]

3. Could be the jury going "home" for the evening

[dorkzilla]

6. That sounds the most likely...its nearly 6pm. n/t

[femmocrat]

4. Seems way too early for a verdict.

Maybe it's a hung jury.

[femmocrat]

9. It's a question, acc. to MSNBC.

[pintobean]

5. "Court will convene promptly for jurors' question."

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. The horde of attorneys need to be there to argue about

whatever the jury is asking for - thats my guess...

[malaise]

8. Don't see the defendant

so it's probably not the verdict

[Nevernose]

12. He's there

[premium]

14. No, he's there. nt.

[malaise]

15. He's there now

Judge too - lawyers gathered around the judge

[CatWoman]

17. lol

how could you miss him?

that guys is getting fatter by the hour!!!

[malaise]

34. He came in after I typed this

30 minute recess

[Nevernose]

10. Please clarify manslaughter instructions

[malaise]

18. Yep n/t

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Clarification on Manslaughter verbiage!!!!!

Sah-wheat!!!!!!

Sad that likely means they discounted Murder 2, but better than an automatic acquittal.

[Hugabear]

22. They could find him guilty on both counts

Hopefully that's what's going to happen

[Ruby the Liberal]

27. I didn't know that was possible.

Thanks.

[Hugabear]

37. I assume it would be

I don't know why they wouldn't be able to, unless they've been told they can't.

[Igel]

47. It's either or.

One's the lesser charge included in the other.

They're roughly equivalent. You can't get two murder convictions for one murder. One dead body, one death, one conviction for causing the death.

[cthulu2016]

50. The US Constitution disagrees

As well as all law, all legal procedure, and common sense

[Spazito]

16. The jury wants clarification on the instructions re manslaughter...

interesting.

[femmocrat]

20. Lisa Bloom said that could be good for the prosecution.

we'll see.

[Spazito]

35. That's certainly my thought...

it could be a discussion with the jurors on the 2nd degree vs manslaughter or the jury is working their way down, have decided it isn't 2nd degree murder and are now on to looking at manslaughter.

I'm hoping it is the first, that the debate is whether it is 2nd degree or manslaughter.

The good thing is it seems to indicate that the defense case re self-defense was not sold to the jury as a slam-dunk in any way.

[markiv]

41. Lisa Bloom picked on little Arnold

she has no love for black people

[CatWoman]

46. your posts get siller by the thread

if that's even possible.

what are you hoping to attain? Simplecon 10?

[chelsea0011]

43. She could be completely wrong. If one juror thinks murder against the rest who are for acquittal,

this could just be a request to show lone juror why she is wrong.

[LittleBlue]

19. So looks like murder 2 is off

Is manslaughter all that's left?

[HipChick]

21. He can still get 30yrs for manslaughter..

[LittleBlue]

24. I know

with the gun charge

[dorkzilla]

29. as long as this fucker doesn't walk

But he'll get off on parole in 10 and end up on Fox news.

Unless he gets with the general population in prison....

[HipChick]

33. They still got Jeffrey Dalmer in jail..Zimmerfat doesn't look like he can do any heavy time

[dorkzilla]

42. Exactly why he should be in the general population

Even if they don't Dahmer his fat ass, with the prison population being what it is, they'll make his life a living hell and he'll spend every moment in abject terror. Then he'll have a massive heart attack.

[femmocrat]

23. Guess so.....

Except for "not guilty". No aggravated assault or anything like that.

[malaise]

25. We don't know that

maybe they're trying to decide which one is more appropriate or if any of them is appropriate.
Still this doesn't look good for the defense - thankfully

[avebury]

28. On CNN they indicated that, if the Jury is moving methodically

through the instructions and are asking about manslaughter that they have also passed by self defense as well.

[CatWoman]

30. CNN?

*groan*

[LittleBlue]

32. Interesting

Looks like a decent chance of him getting manslaughter. I think that's fair.

[Ilsa]

26. Maybe this is to differentiate between the two

Charges. Maybe Murder 2 is still on the table.

The longer they go on, I think it is more likely he'll be convicted.

[malaise]

31. He's going to prison I think

Good

[Ilsa]

48. Hope so, or it means they want to be

certain the criteria is met vs acquitting him.

I'll freak out if they let him go. I don't live anywhere near him, but this "blow them away" attitude and claiming self defense has to stop. An acquittal will result in many more innocents dying, I fear.

[malaise]

49. I had a feeling last November that America would not allow Rmoney in their WH

and I think these jurors will let the facts guide them.

[pintobean]

36. 30 minute recess

[itsrobert]

38. What's the chances of a pardon from the republican governor?

He would be a hero to the right wing.

[pintobean]

39. Zero

[kestrel91316]

45. Excellent, IMHO. FL is run by RW fascists.

[stevenleser]

40. Sorry, didn't see this thread when I posted my own.

[complain jane]

44. does this mean they have a choice between voluntary or involuntary manslaughter?

or just "manslaughter"

[PoliticAverse]

51. You can see the entire instructions to the jury here...

Webbrowser version:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/153354467/George-Zimmerman-Trial-Final-Jury-Instructions

Direct link to .pdf version:
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2013/07/12/jury_instructions_1.pdf )

[bravenak]

52. I can't take it my stomache hurts!!

The verdict is coming in. Jury not guilty. I'm dying.