Zippy's Trial - Jury just asked for clarification on Manslaughter verbiage

[Ruby the Liberal]

Lawyers are hammering out their suggested response.

Live here: http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html

Fingers crossed....

[Xipe Totec]

1. Guilty by reason of stupidity. nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

2. If only.

I hope this isn't about convincing a "lock him up" holdout why the others want an acquittal. Could mean anything.

[kalisto2010]

10. Wait

Who said that a Manslaughter conviction couldn't be made due to culpable negligence? According to Florida Law he can be convicted of Manslaughter due to culpable negligence.

[OregonBlue]

11. SS, from reading your posts, it appears you joined Democratic Underground for the express

purpose of defending George Zimmerman. You have yet to find any fault with what he did and I find that strange. He killed an unarmed kid who was doing nothing more than walking home from the store with skittles. Do you really believe that Z was justified in murdering the kids for that?

[lindysalsagal]

26. It's not hindsight when the dispatcher tells you to remain in your car and wait. It' murder when you

choose to disobey a directive unnecessarily.

There was no legitimate reason for Zimmerman to exit his car. If it was a dangerous neighborhood, and Zimmerman was frightened, he'd have remained in his car and driven away.

You are a bigot and you don't belong on this site. Take your hate elsewhere. An innocent child is dead.

You're on ignore so don't bother.

[RBInMaine]

28. Not justified if HE initiated the fight. Trayvon gets to defend himself too.

[brush]

4. Woohoo!

zimmy's going down.

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. One can only hope!

[TorchTheWitch]

6. the entire defense side was looking really grim

Attorneys, family, friends, and Zimmerman did his usual expressionless reptilian slow blink.

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. My mom called just as they were reentering court.

Did they come to an agreement on a definition?

I would think that it was Voluntary (as a lesser charge) but there is also Involuntary, Constructive, Criminally Negligent and who knows how many other flavors...

[TorchTheWitch]

19. No idea

They took a half hour recess, and I had to turn off the live stream because it was doing odd things to the other two windows I had open particularly DU.

[Ruby the Liberal]

20. Gotta love technology

I am sure the YouTube of the end of recess will be up in a few.

[arely staircase]

7. prediction - manslaughter

and at least a ten year sentence. he may be out in 5 but he will go to prison for this.

[ShadowLiberal]

8. Apparently Manslaugther has a maximum of 30 years in Florida

Don't know what the typical/minimum manslaughter charge is.

[arely staircase]

9. yeah, that is what I am basing "at least ten" on

it could be a lot more, but I bet at least ten.

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. Doesn't "with a gun" come into play with the 10-20-life thing

as opposed to Man 1, vehicular homicide (or something similar)?

[Nevernose]

12. Florida doesn't have parole

Not for crimes committed after the mid 90s. Or such is my understanding.

[Ruby the Liberal]

15. Interesting.

Wiki snips:

The 10-20-Life law (Florida Statute 775.087) is a mandatory minimum sentencing law in the U.S. state of Florida. It primarily regards the use of a firearm during the commission of a forcible felony.[1] The law's name comes from a set of three basic minimum sentences it provides for. An ongoing public service announcement campaign has accompanied the law since its passage under the slogan, "Use a gun, and you're done."[2][3][4]

As of 1998, the year before the law went into effect, guns were used in 31,643 violent felonies in Florida. At that time, the mandatory sentence for using a gun in a violent felony was three years in prison.

The law went into effect on July 1, 1999, amending section 775.087 of the Florida Statutes.[5] In 2000, the Legislature extended the mandatory sentences to cover 16 and 17-year olds who fire a gun (during a violent crime), and those offenders with prior criminal records.[2][6]

Full: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-20-Life

[Nevernose]

16. I could have sworn the SCOTUS struck down

Mandatory sentencing for minors. But that might just be my brain misfiring again.

Nevermind: it's just life sentences for minors that can't be mandatory.

[Ruby the Liberal]

23. That Wiki is specific to Florida 10-20-Life

It is very possible/probable that SCOTUS did strike that down on a Federal level but the state law Wiki page was never updated as an impacted statute.

[winter is coming]

17. So a manslaughter conviction in this case would carry a sentence of 25 to life? n/t

[Ruby the Liberal]

21. I keep hearing that tossed about

(Man 1 = Murder 2 if a gun is involved), but I am not an attorney, much less admitted to the Florida Bar - so I have no clue.

[madinmaryland]

18. Long time, no see! How ya doing?

Yeap. Sitting in a hotel watching CNN and their incessant blather.

[Ruby the Liberal]

22. Maid!!

Hope that is leisure hotel time and not working-on-the-weekend hotel time.

[madinmaryland]

27. No "maid" service here...

Took a new job. "maidinmaryland" is no longer appropriate.

I had to move to the Great State of Ohio to spread the word of the Great Democratic Party to the heathens voting of John Kasich, et.al.

Got a new job in Dayton.

Tonight and tomorrow are leisure and then down to work on Monday!!



ETA: I grew up in Ohio, so it I am back where I started.

[Ruby the Liberal]

29. Well, welcome home but can I add a God love ya for that?

Thanks for adding to the blueness of the purple. Hoping this was a good move for your family - but as your neighbor to the (now) east, buckle in, because damn, son - you aren't in Kansas (O'Malley-land) anymore!

Please be sure and post new pics of the interior of your new abode so that Scarletwoman and I have the opportunity to critique the decore (nekkid or not - that portion is optional as always). You know we live for that.

O-H-I-O!

[Cha]

25. K&R

thanks Ruby~