actual budgets of 4 mcdonalds employees

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2013/07/17/mcdonalds-worker-budget/index.html

[Catherina]

1. Terrible! Two Americas n/t

[xchrom]

2. Du rec. Nt

[dkf]

3. Wow. That is... Impossible, depressing...

Sad...

Awful...

[CrispyQ]

4. I wish it would shame McD's, but I'm sure the blood suckers are immune.

~kick

[Electric Monk]

5. Their "Other" in expenses is roughly their Monthly Net Income Total for all four of them

[Earth_First]

17. Groceries?

It doesn't specify, however I'm betting that they eat...

[stillwaiting]

40. Child support? Alimony? We just don't know. nt

[LiberalEsto]

6. What do they do for food?

Is that part of the Other expenses?

Horrifying.

[bunnies]

7. McDonalds?

[KamaAina]

8. Ha!

If any of them so much as laid a finger on a French fry, s/he would be fired at once.

[bunnies]

12. Well...

we cant have them all getting sick from that garbage now can we?

[SunSeeker]

31. Yes, food and clothing would fall under "other."

The workers' human needs for food are not even acknowleged in McDonald's budget as a necessary line item...because it dwarfs their paycheck and shows they are just working for food (the definition of slave wages IMO).

[Rex]

9. PLEASE make this go viral!

I want to see McDonald's FORCED by their own employees to RAISE how much they are paying them! I keed...McDs would have to have some kind of shame and we know corporations lack the shame gene.

[michigandem58]

10. How about getting a job?

Oh, wait.

[Rex]

11. A second job!

Clearly McDs is telling all of it's non-managing staff to get another job to make ends meet. Sorry, we cannot help you.

[JHB]

21. They can get uniquely American third jobs!

Praise B(y Bush)!

[Mnemosyne]

13. Slavery, by any other name. nt

[Blue Owl]

14. Well according to the Koch Bros. they're all in the top 1%

[Apophis]

15. Modern day slavery.

This is absolutely disgusting.

K and R for exposure.

[closeupready]

16. Thank God for credit cards!

Just a disgraceful situation, if you ask me. If you work full-time, you should be able to support yourself on one job.

[Kingofalldems]

18. Ayn Rand's America

[zeemike]

29. Yep...and they are still slugs.

Wanting free stuff from the job creators

[marions ghost]

19. Slimeballs

[LittleGirl]

20. it's disgraceful!

The cable companies are robbing these poor people of most of their money! How do they eat? It's sickening.

[BronxBoy]

26. You do realize...

that's it's almost impossible to look for a job or a better job without a phone or Internet, don't you?

The average monthly cost for for those four folks for phone, Internet and cable is $122. Not unreasonable for someone who may be working and may be trying to better themselves.

But I'd wager that you'd be the first to complain that they are not doing enough to better themselves.

[LittleGirl]

30. pls don't assume you think you know what I mean

I meant the freaking cable companies (which are the cheapest method of entertainment for us all) are robbing the poor as well as everyone else. I don't have cable because I freaking fired them for overcharging all of the time for shit that I don't watch. That's what I meant.

I have a 50 yr old BFF that has been unemployed for 2 yrs and she's educated and can't find a freaking job. She works at a retail store and gets unemployment which she has 2 weeks left and then what? Welfare, that's what. So yes, I know exactly how bad it is out there and it's shameful that a corporation like Mcd's and walmart are not paying their employees and the tax payers are picking up the slack for these lost souls just trying to get by. I worked in restaurants for 10 years when I was young and spry and it was hard labor and thankless.

And yes, everyone has to have a phone, I know that.

[BronxBoy]

34. My apologies....

Maybe this is a matter of wording your posts better???

But it's all good an my apologies if you thought I was attacking you.

From a Brother to a Sister....

[LittleGirl]

38. it's okay

it probably wasn't the best way to word it and it could have been misconstrued. my apologies back to you. I hope it didn't seem like I was attacking you.

peace brother.

[Rain Mcloud]

22. This whole article must be a lie

Trickle down economics on the Laffer curve states that the bigger the corporate profits are then the wages of the employee will increase proportionately.
As i recall when Trickle down started:
Gas was .38 a gallon.
Steak was .99 a pound.
A pack of cigarettes was .55.
Minimum wage was 3.03 an hour.
Rent was 90 bucks a month.
A dime bag was 10 bucks(and Baaaa Baaaa Black Sheep,four fingers full).
A taco and a coke was .50.

So if a factor of ten is applied then minimum wage should $30.00 an hour approximately(I repeat approximate for the inevitable number fapper fetishists out there).

For $60,000 a year I could afford to buy:
A car or truck.
Clothes!
Eat a taco and a coke out again.
Go to movies!
Buy boxes of wine(no more oregano for me,i grew up,kinda).
Own a Blue Ray player instead of watching clips on Yew Tewb.
Have Cable television.
Fix my run down house.
Look for a mate and maybe get dates instead of sardonic stink-eyes.

See this is commonly known but is a Kafka-ism for economists and accountants:
Poor people need every thing and so they get their hot sweaty hands on money they go and buy stuff they need which creates jobs.
Rich self important shyster's put their money away never to be seen again and which benefits absolutely no one other than it looks good on paper to flash around at the Aspens or that funny little airstrip on the edge of town where the illegal drugs are muled in c/o the Cartel.

Simple,huh?

[DeSwiss]

23. K&R

Outlandish hamburger diet claims link

[Laelth]

24. k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t

-Laelth

[WestSeattle2]

25. That's awful - I waited tables at Denny's for 40 hours per week and took home

$1,000-$1,200 per month - 30 years ago! I put myself through college doing just that.

[LittleGirl]

32. yep

when i was a waitress I averaged 10 bucks an hour between 82-85. I couldn't find a job that paid that much and honored by student schedule. I never had a social life but back then as eating and living alone was more important. I also had a crappy car and was able to pay for school and insurance. I also had health insurance that was about 20 bucks a month that actually covered everything I needed.

[DainBramaged]

27. Posted by me eariler today, Mickey D's RECOMMENDS a second job!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023280444

[BronxBoy]

28. So apparently.....

Only black people work at McDonald's and other low wage jobs. Guess it makes it easier to dismiss the demands for living wages.

[1-Old-Man]

33. The two things that jump out at me are how few hours they get to work and those cell bills

So we have guys making 4-, 5-, and 6-hundred bucks a month, and then the last fellow making a grand. So if they are making $8 a hour (my wife tells me that is the current minimum but to tell the truth I don't know what it is) it means the $400 per month guy is only getting to work about 12 hours a week, the $500 guy about 15 or so hours a week and even the guy making the $100 a month is only getting in about 30 hours. So that's the first thing, that none of them has what you'd call a full time job and then there were those cell/cable bills. One of the guys is making $415 a month and paying out over half of it, $210 to the phone/cable company. I think the very first thing I'd do is get rid of that phone.

[BronxBoy]

36. It says...

phone/cable which in these days can mean a cell phone and or landline and internet service and cable TV

[obxhead]

37. Federal min wage

is currently set at $7.25/hr.

Some states have made min wage slightly higher than the federal standard.

[reformist2]

39. Without a phone/internet, I guess they can forget about getting a better job.

There are some essentials that Americans need today, just to be able to play the game. Take away their phone, and they'll be at an even worse disadvantage...

[whopis01]

41. I don't think the idea behind this was to help these guys budget better...

I guess if you are ok with people making as little as 4-, 5-, 6-hundred a month, then it is logical to try to reduce their expenses to meet that. But maybe the solution is to restructure the system so people like this can have full-time jobs at a living wage.

[reformist2]

35. The low pay is bad. But the main problem is the normalization of the part-time job.

Big companies like McDonald's should simply not be allowed to hire so many part-timers, thereby making them scramble to find piecemeal work elsewhere to make ends meet, and of course denying them any benefits full-timers might get, and generally dooming them to poverty.

[Feathervines]

42. Putting the pay checks into question.

I think this is kinda funny I'm a high school student at the age of 17, and don't have a license, yet works at McDonalds and made $300 last pay period, and I'm payed every two weeks and so how would this be a good source of information if a highschool student can make more then these men in their spare time after school. I just don't understand this, also a person get more time depending on how that person acts in the work place, as well as how willing that person is to work, this also has to be taken into consideration.

[gopiscrap]

43. welcome to DU

[In_The_Wind]

44. Hello ~ Feathervines

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[uppityperson]

45. I suggest you go to the link and read more about the people in those photos rather than assuming

things as that might answer some of your concerns as to why they don't work more than you do. Here is something to learn, don't just look at the pictures but go to links and read the text.

Devonte Yates, 21, is working to get an Associate's Degree in criminal justice and logs in about 25 hours a week at a McDonald's in Milwaukee. To cut down on costs, he lives with his mom and little sister. Still, he struggles to pay his $180 tuition bill each month. He's only able to pay about $90.

He said that the school is more forgiving of him not paying his bill in full while he is still taking classes. But when he graduates next semester, he is worried about how he's going to pay it back.

Besides tuition, some of Yates' expenses that fall under the "other" category are $40 per month for contact lenses and $50 on clothes. Food, at $300, is his biggest monthly expense, as it is for most of the other workers interviewed.

It's been near impossible for Christopher Drumgold to raise two kids while making $7.40 an hour at McDonald's. His kids attend a Detroit charter school that doesn't have a bus. So he has to pay for bus or cab fare for them to get to school everyday.

What's more, Drumgold said his 12-year-old son is "as big as Shaquille O'Neal," with a size-13 shoe. He constantly outgrows his clothes or needs a haircut, all of which adds to expenses.

"I had to find a bootleg barber to get him an affordable haircut," he said.

He pays about $15 a month for haircuts, another $100 on childcare and another $100 on prescription drugs.