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SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 08:45 PM Jul 2013

Is there any organization more threatening to this democracy then the Tea Party, at this point?



Rand Paul saying that Sandy victims with their me me me attitude threatens national security comes to mind.

What a load of crap, that is!
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Is there any organization more threatening to this democracy then the Tea Party, at this point? (Original Post) SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 OP
Hey Rand! Why don't you show these Sandy victims how to build their houses by themselves? muntrv Jul 2013 #1
heh SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #2
I would say... MyshkinCommaPrince Jul 2013 #3
The little tea baggers have no idea, do they? SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #6
Yep, the real slime lies in the rat holes, often out of sight, as they fund and RKP5637 Jul 2013 #13
This. ^^^ CrispyQ Jul 2013 #25
True. The Baggers are the willing SuckerPuppets of the 1% (R) Berlum Jul 2013 #26
They are being expertly manipulated MyshkinCommaPrince Jul 2013 #35
Yuppers. Here's one quote from What's the Matter... Berlum Jul 2013 #36
Yes. The Republican Party. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #4
That was going to be my answer also. kentuck Jul 2013 #5
Not much difference now, is there? SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #7
What's the difference? The Repubs are run by the teaparty-ers now. pnwmom Jul 2013 #9
exactly. no difference and proudly so. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #11
ALEC nt LiberalEsto Jul 2013 #8
Yes, ALEC is a deadly threat to all of us. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #10
Yes, there's a more dangerous organization. It is the militarized police throughout the country. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #12
I was thinking politically..... SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #14
Bingo! It's a tremendous threat, power and violence, often going RKP5637 Jul 2013 #15
One would have to be a real lemming at this point to believe that the SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #16
The Supreme Court via citizens united ruling PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #17
No, not in the past. Guess I was just upset by the rand paul bs toward Sandy victims. I really SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #18
The Republican Party is the actual organization, there is no such Party as Tea Party Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #19
Yes. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #20
Well, according to House Republicans, there's ACORN... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #21
yes, the corporatists within the DLC markiv Jul 2013 #22
perhaps the NSA Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #23
That's what I was thinking. nt City Lights Jul 2013 #33
NY Stock Exchange? limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #24
Yes! There are- fredamae Jul 2013 #27
Ginny Thomas and her under-the-table crew. Myrina Jul 2013 #28
You mean outside of the republican party as a whole liberal N proud Jul 2013 #29
Wall Street. nt tsuki Jul 2013 #30
The Teabaggers Are A Gift That Keep Giving... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #31
political legitimacy sigmasix Jul 2013 #32
Fox is the propoganda arm of the Kochs. The Tea Party is their creation. mick063 Jul 2013 #34
Many. The tea party is just a tool, The US Chamber of Commerce is just one Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #37
The TP is anti-immigration reform, anti-trade, believe in a NWO conspiracy but not global warming... pampango Jul 2013 #38
Yup, the NSA nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #39

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
3. I would say...
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jul 2013

I would say that the forces behind the Teahooligans are more threatening than they are, in themselves. Those backers will keep trying to build and fund organizations and movements like, if not worse than, this one. The think tanks and conservative infrastructure are in place to help with that. Those driving this movement aren't going to give up, even when the current movement fizzles out or falls apart.

I read the national security quote as following up on the set-up provided by sequester-driven military cuts. Another one of their "set-'em-up, knock-'em-down" bits. They force the sequester, causing the cuts, then they suggest that national security is being threatened if we spend money on anything other than military. They're trying to carefully control the narrative about government spending and expenses, to avoid the introduction of any serious argument for raising taxes to increase income.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
13. Yep, the real slime lies in the rat holes, often out of sight, as they fund and
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jul 2013

pursue their objective to destroy this country for most.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
25. This. ^^^
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jul 2013

The MIC, a great tool for the elite to siphon our Treasury into their personal coffers. Wave a flag, create a boogeyman & a good share of Americans will happily put social programs on the block in the interests of "national security." My right wing mother, who lived on a fixed income & used government services, had no problem with the military budget. "We need a big, bad military."

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
26. True. The Baggers are the willing SuckerPuppets of the 1% (R)
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:49 AM
Jul 2013

The Baggers allow themselves to be suckered and played for fools. It's sad to watch.

If they ever wake up and realize how they have been used by the Republicon 'elite' they will shit bricks.

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
35. They are being expertly manipulated
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jul 2013

Some of them have been manipulated in one way after another for two or three decades, now. Sadly, I don't expect most of them to be able to suddenly wake up and realize that they've been had. Instead, they'll just fall for the next manipulation, very likely becoming more and more extreme as their frustration rises. The forces manipulating them have their own agenda, which has little overlap with the ploys used to manipulate these protest and/or electoral movements.

I would perhaps start quoting What's The Matter with Kansas?, if my memory were robust enough to pull quotations out of the air like that.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
36. Yuppers. Here's one quote from What's the Matter...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:09 PM
Jul 2013

"The movement (right-wing Republicon propaganda) speaks to those at society’s bottom, addresses them on a daily basis. From the left they hear nothing, but from the Cons they get an explanation for it all. Even better, they get a plan for action, a scheme for world conquest with a wedge issue."

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
5. That was going to be my answer also.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

Because they refuse to stand up to the Tea Party. Their weakness makes them more dangerous.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
12. Yes, there's a more dangerous organization. It is the militarized police throughout the country.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jul 2013

Nationwide, they've been purposely trained to deliver unnecessary and excessive violence.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
15. Bingo! It's a tremendous threat, power and violence, often going
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:46 PM
Jul 2013

unquestioned with the idiotic thought that it's protecting us from them and those ... fostering us versus them.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
16. One would have to be a real lemming at this point to believe that the
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jul 2013

militarized police are protecting and serving us little people especially after OWS.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
18. No, not in the past. Guess I was just upset by the rand paul bs toward Sandy victims. I really
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jul 2013

hate the tea party!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. The Republican Party is the actual organization, there is no such Party as Tea Party
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:10 PM
Jul 2013

certainly no 'organization' call Tea Party, they have no national organization they are part of the Republican Party. They are Republicans.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
27. Yes! There are-
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:59 AM
Jul 2013

Those who Believe the "rand pauls"....Without them? Rand is Nothing--and the sad thing is-It's all a façade. They're being "duped" and don't even know it.

NY/NJ etc send a Lot more money To the feds than they Ever get back---again, it's a "grand façade" he peddles.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
28. Ginny Thomas and her under-the-table crew.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:00 AM
Jul 2013

Stillwater? TideWater? BongWater? ... whatever the hell the call themselves?

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
29. You mean outside of the republican party as a whole
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jul 2013

which includes the teabaggers.

The obstruction currently taking place in Washington is the single most damaging action against this nation since the civil war.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
31. The Teabaggers Are A Gift That Keep Giving...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jul 2013

...their stridency and support of the most obstinate and backwards rushpublican candidates surely helped to re-elect Claire McCaskill. They're a far bigger thorn in the rushpublican party now as they are in ours...and to me that's a very good thing. While some here have been obsessed with other matters (NSA, Zimmerman) the rushpublicans are a party in total revolt. You'll hear teabaggers curse out Rove worse than they will almost anyone else but President Obama. Now you're hearing a "moderate" like Christie shooting back at the "selfish" wing. The chasm is wide and gets even wider when you throw the fundies into the mix.

On the national level the teabaggers are not as much as threat as they are on the state level. Years of working the grassroots has led the rushpublicans to build up numbers in state legislatures that has led to some of the worst legislation I've seen in my lifetime being passed. This is the forefront on the war on women, voting rights, gay marriage and other important social issues. It's also the key to the gerrymandering that goes on in Washington. It's time for the Democrats to really dig deep into those grassroots and take this country back one town, county and state at a time...

sigmasix

(794 posts)
32. political legitimacy
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jul 2013

Teabaggers love it when they are reffered to as a political party- It gives them political legitimacy that they don't deserve. They love it when "journalists" call them "small government conservatives" as well. Teabaggers certainly aren't conservative, given their propensity to distrust science and to revise American history. Teabaggers don't want a smaller government- they want a weakened America caused by legislation that destroys our national cohesion and the American value of live and let live. Teabaggers want to see government expanded into the body of every single woman in America and every single bedroom. Greenwald calls Teabaggers a "new breed" as well- when the reality is that teabaggers are just disguised far right wing Birchers that have been slinking around America's politics since the civil war. Birchers and Teabaggers hate everything our America stands for and they want to destroy it and turn it into "their America" by amping-up racist ideologies and antiAmerican hate-fueled lies about the founder's intentions and the pressures of history that caused Americans to fight off the 1%'s yoke of oppression. The teabaggers are paid for and "educated" by the most active and toxic members of the criminally wealthy elite paymasters of the extreme right wing. They support the 1% goal of dismantling American laws and liberties that prevent the criminally wealthy from stealing and destroying even more of America. How overwhelmingly hate-filled and stupid does one have to be to view teabaggers as anything other than agents of political chaos and partisan destruction?

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
34. Fox is the propoganda arm of the Kochs. The Tea Party is their creation.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jul 2013

It always begins with "follow the money".

That includes the Democratic Party.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
37. Many. The tea party is just a tool, The US Chamber of Commerce is just one
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jul 2013

organization that is incalculably more destructive. Goldman-Sachs, the Carlyle Group, every hedge fund, ALEC, third-way, almost every so-called think tank, the list goes on and on...

pampango

(24,692 posts)
38. The TP is anti-immigration reform, anti-trade, believe in a NWO conspiracy but not global warming...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jul 2013
In response to Obama’s plug for the trans-oceanic partnerships, investigative reporter Jerome Corsi noted: “Obama’s open discussion of the two-oceans TPP and TAP free trade agendas during his recent SOTU attests to the persistence of globalists. ... In order to prevent this, both sides of the internationalists’ agenda must be countered simultaneously: Illegal immigration must be controlled and amnesty denied, and new “free trade” pacts between the United States and other nations must be stopped and existing ones, such as NAFTA, repealed.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/15010-permanent-amnesty-temporary-border

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