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AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:33 PM Jul 2013

Major opinion shifts, in the US and Congress, on NSA surveillance and privacy

Glenn Greenwald

Numerous polls taken since our reporting on previously secret NSA activities first began have strongly suggested major public opinion shifts in how NSA surveillance and privacy are viewed. But a new comprehensive poll released over the weekend weekend by Pew Research provides the most compelling evidence yet of how stark the shift is.

Among other things, Pew finds that "a majority of Americans – 56% – say that federal courts fail to provide adequate limits on the telephone and internet data the government is collecting as part of its anti-terrorism efforts." And "an even larger percentage (70%) believes that the government uses this data for purposes other than investigating terrorism." Moreover, "63% think the government is also gathering information about the content of communications." That demonstrates a decisive rejection of the US government's three primary defenses of its secret programs: there is adequate oversight; we're not listening to the content of communication; and the spying is only used to Keep You Safe™.



Article here

I find it amusing that the Tea Party's views on such matters have transformed when it is done by the Democrats.



Damn hypocrites.

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Major opinion shifts, in the US and Congress, on NSA surveillance and privacy (Original Post) AgingAmerican Jul 2013 OP
I suspect many Milquetoast Democrats' view will change as well when a Republican Uncle Joe Jul 2013 #1
So "Milquetoast (Dem)" is the new "authoritarian (Dem)"?!1 SO hard to keep up!1 UTUSN Jul 2013 #3
It's not complicated there are at least two strains and maybe more. Uncle Joe Jul 2013 #4
Thinking about subscribing to this dictionary. n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #6
I'm always happy to shed some light. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2013 #7
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #2
Republicans are using the NSA thing against Democrats - to be sure Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #5
And they will be using the NSA data against Dems too AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #9
Exactly Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #10
du rec nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #8

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
1. I suspect many Milquetoast Democrats' view will change as well when a Republican
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jul 2013

comes to power.

Particulary if said Republican is of the Joe McCarthy, Jay Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon or Bush the Least strain.

Thanks for the thread, AgingAmerican.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
3. So "Milquetoast (Dem)" is the new "authoritarian (Dem)"?!1 SO hard to keep up!1
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jul 2013

But this is sort of counter-intuitive since "Milquetoast" and "authoritarian" are antithetical, but at least you hold out the hope that a Milquetoast can metamorphose into something else with changing conditions.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
4. It's not complicated there are at least two strains and maybe more.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:22 PM
Jul 2013

Authoritarians have wet dreams of a Big Brother government to protect them from everything except the government.

Milquetoast Democrats are too meek or afraid to buck "benign" authority lest their actions of protest help to bring along something worse.

The problem is meekness can be confused by those in power for approval, thus more draconian or invasive laws will be passed and promoted with the end result of Milquetoasts' greatest fears actually coming to fruition.



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