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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:23 AM Jul 2013

Anyone know about cars? UPDATE ABOUT THE SOUND

Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Our car is making a humming sound when it reaches 35 mph and up. The faster I go the louder it gets.


I have a 2007 cobalt it is over 160,000 miles. It is an automatic (I do not have to shift gears.)

Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong and more importantly how much it might cost?


Edit: My wife driving the car today and said the sound when it got up to 35 MPH or higher sounded like a small plane flying. She thinks she might have heard it yesterday BUT she happened to look up and saw the wing of a plane and just assumed that was what she was hearing. But it sounds like a small private plane that maybe seats 5.

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Anyone know about cars? UPDATE ABOUT THE SOUND (Original Post) diabeticman Jul 2013 OP
This could be a symptom of any number of problems. especially at 160.000 miles aristocles Jul 2013 #1
Here's several possible causes Revanchist Jul 2013 #2
I could figure out the tune if I heard it hum a few bars... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #3
Tires and transmission immediately pop to mind. MelungeonWoman Jul 2013 #4
Wheel bearings or CV joints are possible as well. Does the sound change going around a corner? Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #5
Adding bushings as a possibility, but it could be hundreds of different things. tridim Jul 2013 #8
not really. diabeticman Jul 2013 #12
What pitch and where? DetlefK Jul 2013 #6
Other than below the seats I can't really place it. diabeticman Jul 2013 #13
not enough info Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #7
The first thing I would do is check the treadwear on your tires. rateyes Jul 2013 #9
Just turn up the radio until you can't hear it. Scuba Jul 2013 #10
Funny... until I car dies on us. diabeticman Jul 2013 #14
If you can determine whether the 'hum' edgineered Jul 2013 #11
No feelings at all. No vibrations no nothing. The sound does seem to increase when I increase diabeticman Jul 2013 #16
Place a piece of masking tape edgineered Jul 2013 #17
Exhaust leak. tridim Jul 2013 #21
Check your tires Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #15
Record the sound before you take your car to the garage. PADemD Jul 2013 #18
Hmm...The sound gets louder, but does MineralMan Jul 2013 #19
+1 bunnies Jul 2013 #23
Yah. I worked a few years as an auto mechanic. MineralMan Jul 2013 #25
I guess Im lucky I drive a 22 year old beater. bunnies Jul 2013 #29
Yup. Older cars are often cheaper to repair. MineralMan Jul 2013 #32
or just buy a new car. bunnies Jul 2013 #33
Sometimes, though, it's the best solution. MineralMan Jul 2013 #35
It must have been quite nice... bunnies Jul 2013 #36
I'm betting it's rear wheel bearings on the poster's car. MineralMan Jul 2013 #31
Yep. Its the rear in mine too. bunnies Jul 2013 #34
Is there a plastic splash tray that protects the underside of the engine? If so Snotcicles Jul 2013 #20
My car does that. Its the rear wheel bearings. bunnies Jul 2013 #22
At cruise, shift to neutral and allow engine to idle... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #24
PLEASE don't do that in traffic BlueStreak Jul 2013 #28
I assume a modicum of common sense. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #38
Have you driven on any public streets lately? :) BlueStreak Jul 2013 #39
Why, no, I stick to livestock paths when riding my horse through Austin. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #40
Be careful. I hear there are a lot of riders having accidents texting while galoping BlueStreak Aug 2013 #46
At the corner of S. 1st & W. Mary, in hip South Austin, Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #47
check this link warrprayer Jul 2013 #26
NEI liberal N proud Jul 2013 #27
DU Lounge? snot Jul 2013 #30
CHECK you tires, for bulges or abnormal wear. Historic NY Jul 2013 #37
Wheel bearing or CV joint. The kicker would be if it happens more/louder when turning. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #41
Sounds like someone needs to call Click and Clack Brother Buzz Aug 2013 #42
Either that...or Cessna pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #43
5$ says it's rear breaks olddots Aug 2013 #44
That is what I was thinking, also. The built in sound that break pads need replacing. Tikki Aug 2013 #45
 

aristocles

(594 posts)
1. This could be a symptom of any number of problems. especially at 160.000 miles
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:27 AM
Jul 2013


Go to an auto mechanic. Check with your friends or Angie's List to find a good local mechanic.

MelungeonWoman

(502 posts)
4. Tires and transmission immediately pop to mind.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:29 AM
Jul 2013

Are you sure you're putting it in drive? Driving in a lower gear would give you a hum. Also check that you don't have any bulges in your tire and check the tread. It could also be a belt but that's more like a squeak. Sorry I don't have anything more precise. Can you record the hum?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. What pitch and where?
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

Could be anything.

- Try switching to manual gear-control and drive at the same speed with different gears to find out if it's from the motor.
- Does it depend on the road?
- From which direction does the sound come from? Could it be a loose cover sheet?

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
9. The first thing I would do is check the treadwear on your tires.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jul 2013

If the tread is worn, please replace the tires. Stay safe.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
11. If you can determine whether the 'hum'
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jul 2013

increases with vehicle speed as opposed to engine speed, you will be going in the right direction. In addition, if you can tell your mechanic if you feel something in your hands or your legs, that could define it as being in the front or the rear. Chances are if you cannot feel it, the problem isn't in the drive line.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
17. Place a piece of masking tape
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:56 AM
Jul 2013

across the tread of each tire and drive about 10 or 15 miles. The tape should wear evenly across each tire. Wearing more on the 'inside' shows an overly inflated tire as opposed to wear on the outsides being under inflated.

Tread separation may also cause a hum - if you can narrow it down to one wheel, try changing out that wheel with your spare. Gotta go fix some motorcycles now, good luck diabeticman.

You seem to have some good suggestions from others here, I hope you can resolve this.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
21. Exhaust leak.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:40 AM
Jul 2013

Even a small hole or crack will do that, sometimes they're on the top so they're hard to find.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
18. Record the sound before you take your car to the garage.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:00 AM
Jul 2013

That's what I do now. My car never seems to make a sound when the auto mechanic drives it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. Hmm...The sound gets louder, but does
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:09 AM
Jul 2013

the pitch change in frequency with speed changes? Think musical tone.

If I had to guess, based on your limited description, I'd think wheel bearings, either front or rear. If the sound changes when you move the steering wheel and change lanes, then that's almost certainly it.

These days, you don't replace just front wheel bearings on most cars. The hub is replaced. Don't go to the dealer for this. An independent shop can charge you less than the dealer. Rear bearings on your Cobalt can be replaced, but, again, the cost to do this depends on where you take your car.

Your noise could be anywhere in the vehicle's drive train or rotating parts that touch the road. Bottom line: nothing is cheap to repair any more. Go get it checked. Most shops will be able to tell you where the problem is after a short test drive, but some diagnostic work may be needed beyond that.

Finally, when the problem is found and disassembly happens to fix it, your car's high mileage makes it very likely that other issues will be found. Expect to hear bad news. If you don't get some, you'll be very fortunate.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
23. +1
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jul 2013

Wish I had seen your post before I posted. Wheel bearings is exactly what I think it is too. Based on the fact that mine are shot and it does what the OP describes.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. Yah. I worked a few years as an auto mechanic.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jul 2013

I learned from my father, who is maybe the best auto diagnostician I've ever seen. Worn wheel bearings is the most common, and the most likely cause of the poster's noise. Sadly, these days, it's not cheap to replace them, like it was in the old days when I was doing that stuff.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
29. I guess Im lucky I drive a 22 year old beater.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:54 AM
Jul 2013

Keeps the repair costs down. My quote is a mere 200 bucks to do both rears. I think though, that my mechanic feels bad for me and lowers the prices a bit. He knows I'll be back. A lot.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
32. Yup. Older cars are often cheaper to repair.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jul 2013

Newer cars get repaired by replacing more than just the worn thing. So, instead of installing just new bearings, you have to buy an entire hub. $$$

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
35. Sometimes, though, it's the best solution.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:19 AM
Jul 2013

My wife and I finally did that, after we lost two cars to old age and unaffordable repairs. When the 1991 Volvo wagon kept dying on the road from something I worked and worked to diagnose and fix, we gave up. I think I actually finally fixed it, but it was no longer trustworthy as our only car, so I sold it to some guy, after telling him the history of the problem. We borrowed her mom's car, drove to the local Kia dealer, and drove home in a brand new Kia Soul a couple of hours later.

That is the first new car I've ever bought in my 68 years on the planet. Full warranty for 5 years/60,000 miles and powertrain warranty for 10 years/100,000 miles. Very low car payment, great interest rate, and no more crawling under cars or bending over the fender. I hated to give up my practice of driving older cars, but there it is. I'm too old to do that stuff any more.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
36. It must have been quite nice...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jul 2013

to have a brand new car for the first time. I'd say you sufficiently held out as long as you could.

I had an almost new car once. One of those salesman cars they trade-in after the first year. But that thing just got the point, like you said, that it couldnt be trusted. The one I have now is getting to that point. I think the starter is going. If I park it and run into the bank or whatever it wont start again right away. I have to wait a good 3-4 minutes before she'll start again... and I just know that one of these days she wont go at all. But for now, all I can do is keep my fingers crossed. They dont make new cars cheap enough for me to afford at this time.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
31. I'm betting it's rear wheel bearings on the poster's car.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jul 2013

I think he'd have noticed the change when he steered the car if it was front bearings. That he hears it through the floor pan also makes it more likely to be rear bearings. The high mileage is another hint. Rear wheel bearings usually last a very long time on FWD cars.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
34. Yep. Its the rear in mine too.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:17 AM
Jul 2013

216xxx miles. I knew it was coming once the CV joints in the front went. I cant complain though, given its age.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
20. Is there a plastic splash tray that protects the underside of the engine? If so
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jul 2013

check to see if is secure. Sometimes those have to be removed for oil changes etc. and if not remounted correctly they will vibrate when wind passes through while driving at higher speeds.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
22. My car does that. Its the rear wheel bearings.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jul 2013

Maybe its the same for yours? :shrug Adding: if it IS your wheel bearings and one of them goes, your tire will stop turning. Its nothing to be messed around with. The quote for mine is a couple hundred bucks for both.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
24. At cruise, shift to neutral and allow engine to idle...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jul 2013

If sound continues, not engine. Possible drive train (axle/wheel bearings, tires). If rear bearings, failure and more damage is Imminent. Danger!

You can check rear bears: Park car, don't apply park brake. With both hands grab the top of rear tire/wheel and forcefully push IN, then pull OUT, several times. Repeat other side. Bad bearings reveal themselves by lots of "slop" and motion. R&R immediately. Let us know what happened. Good luck.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
47. At the corner of S. 1st & W. Mary, in hip South Austin,
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 12:37 PM
Aug 2013

A rider or two ties up across from Bouldin Creek Cafe. I think they give horse rides to folks.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
27. NEI
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:52 AM
Jul 2013

Not enough Information.

My girls will call and say their car is making a noise. I always ask, what does the noise sound like and where is it coming from and when does it make the noise.

What you tell us is 35 mph and humming. Depends on where the noise is coming from.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
42. Sounds like someone needs to call Click and Clack
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:23 AM
Aug 2013

Polish up mimicking the sound and give them a call this weekend. She Who Must Be Obeyed says they have a page on their website that might help describe your sound, it's called Car Noise Emporium. Good luck, I'll be listening for your call.


http://www.cartalk.com/content/car-noise-emporium-27

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
45. That is what I was thinking, also. The built in sound that break pads need replacing.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:10 AM
Aug 2013

But please see an EXPERT.


Tikki

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