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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:27 PM Jul 2013

Frank Zappa had it exactly right.

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

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Frank Zappa had it exactly right. (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 OP
Trouble Every Day redwitch Jul 2013 #1
Rec for your post and the OP. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #2
Zappa, Carlin, Lenny Bruce… Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #4
I liked his song about going to Montana to raise a crop of dental floss. LiberalLoner Jul 2013 #6
Goin' to Montana soon formercia Jul 2013 #7
I liked his song about going to Montana to raise a crop of dental floss. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #8
Yep. N/t boomer55 Jul 2013 #3
He was also bang on about not eating yellow snow. Bunnahabhain Jul 2013 #5
Haven't we all seen this movie before?? Segami Jul 2013 #9
Sometimes I wonder what Frank Zappa would be saying and doing today. I matthews Jul 2013 #10
Banging on the box yelling "let me out of here"? n/t eggplant Jul 2013 #24
Doubtful. In my scenario he would never have been put in the box at all. nt matthews Jul 2013 #25
Frank Zappa was no fool. Hubert Flottz Jul 2013 #11
Too bad he's gone, it would be great to see him "debate" Nugent. rwsanders Jul 2013 #12
Heh.... daleanime Jul 2013 #17
Yeah it would be fun to watch, I bet Frank could do a nice guitar solo over the body as an encore. rwsanders Aug 2013 #33
He sure did. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #13
One of the great things about DU is the diversity of the posters. lark Jul 2013 #14
Here you go... zappaman Jul 2013 #15
Thanks!! lark Jul 2013 #18
My favorite quote zappaman Jul 2013 #16
Dumb all over. klook Jul 2013 #21
Your handle whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #29
Thanks my friend! zappaman Jul 2013 #30
Who is "they?" treestar Jul 2013 #19
And we seem to be at that point now. Did Zappa have a solution? jwirr Jul 2013 #20
He was looking in to running for President in the early 90's. 90-percent Jul 2013 #22
more stuf frank woulda done 90-percent Jul 2013 #23
Frank Zappa, George Carlin, and Bill Hicks all exposed the same message. Initech Jul 2013 #26
Now theres a man who went WAY before his time. bunnies Jul 2013 #27
The Slime Octafish Jul 2013 #28
Frank had it right! Enthusiast Jul 2013 #31
I love some Frank. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #32

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
1. Trouble Every Day
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jul 2013

Well I'm about to get up sick
From watchin my t.v.
Been checkin' out the news
Until my eyeballs fail to see
I mean to say that every day
Is just another rotten mess
And when it's gonna change, my friend
Is anybody's guess
So I'm watching and I'm waiting
Hopin' for the best
Even think I go to praying
Every time I hear them sayin'
That there's no way to delay
That trouble comin' everyday
No way to delay
That trouble comin' every day

Wednesday I watched the riot
I've seen the cops out on the street
Watch them throwing rocks and stuff and choking in the heat
Listen to reports
About the whiskey passin' round
Seen the smoke and fire
And the market burnin' down
Watched while everybody on his street would take a turn
They stomp and smash and bash and crash and slash and bust 'n burn
And I'm watching and I'm waitin hopin' for the best
Even think I go to prayin'
Every time I hear em sayin'
That there's no way to delay
That trouble comin' every day
No way to delay
That trouble comin' everyday

You can cool it
You can heat it
Cause baby I don't need it
Take your t.v. tube and eat it
And all that phony stuff on sports
And all those unconfirmed reports
[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/trouble-every-day-lyrics-frank-zappa.html ]
You know I watch that rotten box
Until my head begin to hurt
From checkin' out the way
The newsmen say they get the dirt
Before the guys on channel so and so
And further they assert
That any show they litter up
They bring you news if it comes up
They say that if the place blows up
They will be the first to tell
Cause the boys they got downtown
Working hard and doin swell
And if anybody gets the news
Before it hits the streets
They say that no one blams it faster
Their coverage can't be beat
And if another woman driver
Gets machine gunned from her seat
They'll send some joker with a brownie
And youll see it all complete


Read more: FRANK ZAPPA - TROUBLE EVERY DAY LYRICS

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. I liked his song about going to Montana to raise a crop of dental floss.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jul 2013

I've always loved "What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body"

 

matthews

(497 posts)
10. Sometimes I wonder what Frank Zappa would be saying and doing today. I
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jul 2013

suppose he'd be shaking his head with that sarcastic grin on his face, wagging his finger while saying "I tried to warn you. But you just wouldn't listen."

lark

(23,105 posts)
14. One of the great things about DU is the diversity of the posters.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

So tripped out with seeing Zappa's words on a political message board. Thanks, you made my day. Next thing you know, Captain Beefheart might actually make it on here? lol.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
15. Here you go...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:49 PM
Jul 2013

“May the Baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your mind.”
― Captain Beefheart

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
16. My favorite quote
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jul 2013

"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. Who is "they?"
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jul 2013

He must have had a lot of money and thus plenty of freedom. He certainly had freedom of speech and a platform for many others to hear. What was he complaining about here?

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
22. He was looking in to running for President in the early 90's.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013

He may have given it a go if he didn't get prostate cancer. A recent Zappa Bio book by Pauline Butcher (Freak Out - my life with Frank Zappa) mentions that Frank was planning on running most of his life! I recall he said in an interview; "Not only would I win, but I'd be good at the job."

-90% Jimmy

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
23. more stuf frank woulda done
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:09 PM
Jul 2013

below from this link:

http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Frank_Zappa._Interview_in_Playboy



Sometimes you sound like a political candidate. How serious was your plan to run for president?
I wanted to do it. It's a bit hard to mount a campaign if you have cancer and don't feel well.

If you hadn't been ill, would you have run?
Yeah. And it's a shame. We got calls and mail throughout the election. Squadrons of volunteers called.

If you had run and won, what would President Zappa have done?
I would have started by dismantling the government. At least I would have presented the idea to the voters.

Nothing too revolutionary?
In the Beltway and places that have large federal payrolls, the idea wouldn't be too popular, but in other places people would think it's great. One strong selling point is that you could do away with federal income taxes, or at least reduce them to a point that people would have something left at the end of the week. In the end, I think people, in their enlightened self-interest, would consider voting for that.


If you dismantled the government, you'd put yourself out of a job.
No, because most reasonable people would agree that we need roads, for instance, and water you can drink and breathable air. Most people realize that there has to be some coordinated infrastructure and a national offense that is commensurate with whatever threat you feel from other countries.

National offense?
I mean – well, what we have now is national offense. We should have national defense.

You've said that you're not a peacenik.
Human nature and human stupidity often breed violence. When violence escalates to an international confrontation, you should be able to protect yourself. On the other hand, to plan for it – like we did throughout the Cold War – based on badly handled intelligence estimates of the threat to our national security is just stupid. Most intelligence estimates indicated that the Soviet couldn't do shit to us, but they were ignored order to maintain the level of employment and financial activity in the defense industry.

Do you think that our recent election was irrelevant?
Yes, because America has to be completely restructured. We have to question every institution in terms of efficiency. I'm serious about abandoning the federal system.





I think Frank was the only person Playboy ever had for the Playboy Interview in the same issue as artist of the year. Details fuzzy, but I think Playboy was trying to honor him in what little life time he had left.

-90% Jimmy

Initech

(100,080 posts)
26. Frank Zappa, George Carlin, and Bill Hicks all exposed the same message.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jul 2013

And they were way ahead of their time.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
28. The Slime
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:49 PM
Jul 2013


I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think Im delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin out
From your tv set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't got for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks..
Don't touch that dial

Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin along on your livinroom floor

I am the slime from your video
Cant stop the slime, people, lookit me go
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