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AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:46 PM Jul 2013

Not a car or bicycle, but a blend — an ELF vehicle



RESTON, Va. (AP) — Mark Stewart turns quite a few heads as he zips through the streets on his neon green ELF bike. With each pedal, his feet take turns sticking out from the bottom while a gentle motor hums in the background.

What he's driving looks like a cross between a bicycle and a car, the closest thing yet to Fred Flintstone's footmobile, only with solar panels and a futuristic shape.

It's a "green" option for today's commuters.

Stewart, a 65-year-old family therapist and school psychologist from Cambridge, Mass., took the summer off in order to drive his new ELF bike more than 1,200 miles on trails and roads using the East Coast Greenway, a bike and pedestrian trail that runs from Canada to Key West.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Not-a-car-or-bicycle-but-a-blend-an-ELF-4697728.php


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Not a car or bicycle, but a blend — an ELF vehicle (Original Post) AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 OP
Very cute and a great idea - but it wouldn't last 5 minutes on the streets of Lost Angeles, where kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #1
There is no reasonable transportation in L.A.. LWolf Jul 2013 #7
LA traffic is like that final sequence in Mad Max Yavin4 Jul 2013 #11
I wouldn't want to ride in in the Hampton Roads of Virginia either Revanchist Jul 2013 #13
Amen :P I've been there too. deafskeptic Jul 2013 #18
yep. not for la Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #16
Except for the freeway crawl at times, I have found the L A freeways easy to drive. Tikki Jul 2013 #19
I could never drive that to work in LA zappaman Jul 2013 #2
"go anywhere a bicycle can go" Xithras Jul 2013 #3
That would include a lot of Veteran Wheel chairs... AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #4
I'm wondering how it does LWolf Jul 2013 #5
living in San Francisco.. AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #6
That's funny. LWolf Jul 2013 #8
Yes, we have hills that could kill. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #12
It is. LWolf Jul 2013 #14
I'd be more worried about the quality of the brakes going DOWN. Xithras Jul 2013 #9
I have an electric assisted bike Fumesucker Jul 2013 #10
beautiful look Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #15
Great idea for places where its suitable. MineralMan Jul 2013 #17
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
1. Very cute and a great idea - but it wouldn't last 5 minutes on the streets of Lost Angeles, where
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jul 2013

the Get-Out-Of-My-Way-I'm-In-A-Hurry crowd rules the road.

Damn. Because one of these would be PERFECT for me.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
7. There is no reasonable transportation in L.A..
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jul 2013

Public transportation can't compare to other comparably sized cities. Driving your own vehicle of any kind is a traffic nightmare.

I spent 38 of my 53 years in L.A. county. Eight years out, I think of making a trip back to visit old friends, and quake at the prospect of taking on the streets and freeways again.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
13. I wouldn't want to ride in in the Hampton Roads of Virginia either
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jul 2013

With such a large military population a great deal of the drivers aren't from here and still drive the way they did back home. These streets can be scary and their aren't many bike friendly areas either.

deafskeptic

(463 posts)
18. Amen :P I've been there too.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jul 2013

My dad bought an apt to use for vacations in VA beach. We had to go thru the Hampton Roads bridge tunnel on our way to VA Beach. That was fun - NOT. It was literally a crawl thru the tunnel as so many people like to summer in the area. The thought of going thru the traffic there again is enough to make me sweat.

The boardwalk was one of the few good bike friendly areas in VA beach.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
3. "go anywhere a bicycle can go"
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jul 2013

That won't last long. The first time some pedestrian on a paved jogging path gets thumped by one of these...and that WILL happen...every city in America will pass a law banning battery-assist vehicles from pedestrian and bike paths.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
4. That would include a lot of Veteran Wheel chairs...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jul 2013

I wonder how many Veterans have hit a pedestrian? Not many, I bet.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
5. I'm wondering how it does
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jul 2013

on hills. There are quite a few ups and downs on my way to and from work.

Hills, and in the dark, and on ice...but I'm intrigued.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
6. living in San Francisco..
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jul 2013

We have many steep hills here.. and I wonder whether or not the motor would just burn out going up some of them.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
8. That's funny.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jul 2013

I don't live in CA anymore, but SF popped into my head when I typed about "ups and downs," because that's a city with enough to be an issue, that's for sure.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
12. Yes, we have hills that could kill.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

But the Fred Flintstone Mobile is adorable! There are little tricycle trucks like it in Italy.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
9. I'd be more worried about the quality of the brakes going DOWN.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jul 2013

About 15 years ago I was visiting a friend who lives in the Russian Hill area when we heard a huge crash outside. Turned out that some poor sap had lost his brakes and made it about halfway down the hill before losing control and slamming into a parked car. It wasn't a pretty sight, but the car managed to keep the driver alive. I'd hate to think what the same crash would have looked like in a plastic bubbled bicycle.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. I have an electric assisted bike
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jul 2013

There are units that would climb SF streets without burning out, mine probably wouldn't make it but there are heavier duty units than what I have. A couple of the hills I have to navigate approach that level of steepness but they're rather short.

You have to balance top speed with hill climbing, a unit that climbs hills very well for the most part is not going to also have a high top speed and vice versa.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1207230

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. Great idea for places where its suitable.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jul 2013

That's not everywhere, but a lot of places would work fine for it.

Personally, I'd like to see a model that had a 50cc four-stroke engine in it instead of the electric motor. 5 hp, a multi-speed transmission, and more range and capability. It would get at least 100 mpg in that configuration, and modern small engines are low pollution, even though a 50cc four-stroke makes very little pollution in the first place. Properly muffled, they're also almost silent.

Make the thing with both options, and it would sell like hotcakes. There's no need to avoid tiny internal combustion engines for vehicles like these.

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