George Zimmerman Stopped By Cops Still Packing Heat

[The Straight Story]

George Zimmerman is still armed and theoretically dangerous ... he was stopped by cops for speeding and revealed he had a gun in his glove compartment.

Zimmerman was speeding in Forney, Texas on Sunday, just after noon, when he was stopped by police. Zimmerman told cops he was headed "nowhere in particular," and informed them he had a firearm in his glove compartment.

Zimmerman was given a warning, after cops determined he was free of warrants. He was sent on his way with a polite goodbye, "Have a safe trip."

The stop lasted around 5 minutes.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/31/george-zimmerman-speeding-traffic-stop-gun-firearm-texas/

[kestrel91316]

1. Why only a warning? Do they only cite black folks in FL for speeding??

[Bacchus4.0]

2. it says Texas n/t

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[kestrel91316]

17. Oh, well he's a State Hero (TM) there. That explains it.

[snooper2]

41. No, he is not thank you very much

and if I see him, well,

[kestrel91316]

91. If he scares you, just Stand Your Ground.

[GreenStormCloud]

122. He was only doing between 5 ot 10 miles over.

Normally that only rates a verbal warning.

[quinnox]

3. these cops probably gave him a cheer as he left

"Don't worry about the speeding ticket, buddy, its the least we can do"

[ecstatic]

4. Why wasn't he ticketed?

I'm glad he was stopped---glad he can see what it's like to be profiled, but I'm annoyed that he was let off the hook once they realized who he was. I guess he's an honorary TX cop now?

[zbr6]

15. Profiled for what?

Sounds like he was speeding and got pulled over for speeding. So he fit the profile of a speeder, but I don't think that's what you meant.

To look at it another way, take the speeding part of it out lets just say he was stopped for "profiling" ..and you're saying you're glad that happened??? I'm pretty sure the point is to eliminate profiling period, not keep it around but only use it on people you don't like.

[lunatica]

20. Already looking for a fight huh?

Figures.

[The Magistrate]

28. Kid Ought To Be Braced Twice A Day, Sir, For The Rest Of His Days

He has proved himself a menace II society....

[notadmblnd]

43. Whoa there.

Slow down and read what the poster actually wrote. The poster said they were glad he had the opportunity to see what it is like yo be profiled. Not that they were glad that he was profiled. Reading comprehension is important, because words do matter.

You're visit here will last a lot longer if you don't jump to conclusions before responding to what others write.

Welcome to DU, enjoy your stay

[zbr6]

55. Hola

Thanks for the welcome. I comprehend just fine but choose not to make the same distinction. To me being opposed to something but glad it happens to somebody else (even if they might have earned it) diminishes the position.

Lucky for us, it seems it was his speeding that drew the attention of police and not "profiling" so we can let this fall by the side of semantics.

[B2G]

22. They didn't say how fast he was going or

what the posted speed limit was.

Chances are high he wasn't going over by more than 10 MPH. Depending on the cop, sometimes they will let you off with a warning if you have a clean record.

[X_Digger]

30. It also depends on the day of the month, sadly..

Get nailed close to the end of the month? Sorry, quota's not met yet, here's your ticket.

I traveled 40 miles today, and saw six cops running radar on I-20 and I-35W.

[B2G]

35. Very true. nt

[TBF]

37. Not that uncommon to get warnings down here -

whether written or verbal. Here in the suburbs I think they sit out from time to time very obviously just to slow things down. Of course if you're going a lot over, have been drinking or have an attitude, you're going to get a ticket. GZ loves cops so I'm sure he was quite complementary to them.

[GreenStormCloud]

123. Posted limit was 60. N/T

[cpwm17]

54. Florida plates attract a lot of attention in Texas (and Oklahoma)

I get stopped all of the time in Texas with my Florida plates. About 1/3 of the time I drive on I-10 through west Texas I get pulled over. Always for bogus reasons. I've only had one ticket in Texas, and that was for going 10 mph over the speed limit. I was only going 5 mph over.

I've never been stopped in Florida.

[Rstrstx]

77. So you were going 85+?

The speed limit on I-10 in W TX is 80, how much faster do you need to go? We've been pulled over going 5 mph over the speed limit in W TX but like you just got a warning.

It's hard for an officer to see everyone's plates when cars are whizzing by at Mach .5. Does FL not require front plates?

[cpwm17]

83. I got pulled over for going 10 mph over the speed limit in 1997

Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2013, 06:17 PM - Edit history (1)

on a rare time I was on I-20 near Pecos. If I remember right, I was going 70 mph in a 65 mph zone, just like everybody else. The officer lied about my speed.

They tend to pull up behind me and hesitate before they flash their lights to pull me over. My last trip west through west Texas, last year, I got pulled over after he followed me for a couple of minutes. He fabricated an excuse to pull me over, based on something I allegedly did after he started following me. I told a passenger shortly before this incident that there is a good chance that I would get pulled over, and when he started following me I said it would happen.

This year I drove through Oklahoma instead. I got pulled over in eastern Oklahoma on I-40, which has happen to me three out of four time I've been along that road. It was allegedly for having a frame around my license plate. The officer did tell me they were out trying to find drugs. Florida plates are a good target.

[hrmjustin]

5. I guess the police like him if he got no ticket.

[Cronus Protagonist]

128. Flashed his man-breasts

And displayed his shooter. Cops love that.

[burnodo]

6. why was the other one locked?

I thought dupes were AOK in gd?

Zimmerman probably in Tejas because some gun-nut group sponsored him. But what a total moron. Speeding? I take comfort in the fact that this asshat will ultimately end up in jail.

[gvstn]

11. I self-deleted since StraightStory posted first and they were same source.

I think George made a good choice. He will fit right in, in Texas. (Not all of Texas but some parts definitely see things his way.)

[Pretzel_Warrior]

7. It is repulsive to me that he is still free and out traveling with his dick in the glove compartment

It would be interesting to know where he was going. He better watch out in a state like Texas.

[steve2470]

8. maybe George was going antiquing ?

Forney is a city in Kaufman County, Texas, United States and has been named by the Texas legislature as the "Antique Capital of Texas". The population was 14,661 at the 2010 census.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forney,_Texas


Too bad he's not locked up.

[Wait Wut]

9. Texas is...

...a long way from 'nowhere in particular'. Most cops would ask further questions.

[The Corrector]

10. it is illegal to have a gun in the car in Texas

Zimmerman should be in jail for this.

[pintobean]

14. If you're here to correct

you should use sources. Says who?

[John2]

18. You need to check

your sources, because it is legal.

[B2G]

19. And that would be incorrect.

PC 46.02, PC 46.15:

"A person may carry a loaded handgun without a permit while in or heading directly to a motor vehicle or watercraft they own or control."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Texas

[X_Digger]

21. Umm, no it isn't.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm#46.02

Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:

(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or

(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.

(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:

(1) the handgun is in plain view; or

(2) the person is:

(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic or boating;

(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or

(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.

(a-2) For purposes of this section, "premises" includes real property and a recreational vehicle that is being used as living quarters, regardless of whether that use is temporary or permanent. In this subsection, "recreational vehicle" means a motor vehicle primarily designed as temporary living quarters or a vehicle that contains temporary living quarters and is designed to be towed by a motor vehicle. The term includes a travel trailer, camping trailer, truck camper, motor home, and horse trailer with living quarters.

(a-3) For purposes of this section, "watercraft" means any boat, motorboat, vessel, or personal watercraft, other than a seaplane on water, used or capable of being used for transportation on water.

(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.

[gvstn]

24. Yahoo Answers is a poor source of accurate info

But here it does seem to be a well thought out answer. Sounds like it is legal since 2007. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091223024003AAY10t6

[Union Scribe]

131. Poor source? Unpossible!

http://www.mandatory.com/2012/07/26/the-least-helpful-yahoo-answers-conversations-ever/32

[gvstn]

133. Haha! I've seen much worse.

[Ilsa]

50. I think it is legal if you are crossing two county

lines in Texas. You are able to take protection if you were traveling far enough away from home overnight. There is a right to peaceable journey through the state, I believe.

[oldhippie]

92. Nope, that was the old case law standard ....

.. and never in the Penal Code. The new Penal Code sections are posted by someone above. Changed in 2007 IIRC.

[Eleanors38]

130. New law was promoted by Tex Rifle Assoc & Tex Civil Lib. Union.

[Boom Sound 416]

61. the corrector?

from one newbie to another...good luck with that one

[oneshooter]

96. In Texas your vehicle is considered an extension of your home.

Thus you are allowed to have a loaded concealed handgun in the vehicle, but NOT on your person, unless you have a CHL.

[GreenStormCloud]

124. You are wrong. Having a gun in the car is legal.

The only requirement is that the gun be concealed. I have a .38 revolver in the glove compartment, wife has a .380 semi-auto in the center console.

[KurtNYC]

12. "nowhere in particular" and speeding ?

Sounds like the Indy 500.

Btw, if I was Cajun and in Forney Texas, would I be a Forney Cajun?

[Renew Deal]

34. lol

[pinboy3niner]

45. He was getting nowhere fast

Forney Cajun!

[Arkana]

13. There must have been a black kid in Texas in need of shooting

for walking on whites-only grass.

[Dr. Strange]

25. Don't be ridiculous.

He was on his way to rescue a family after their truck overturned. Hence the speeding. And the gun in the glove compartment.

[Arkana]

33. He might have to stand his ground if the overturned truck attacked him, after all.

[B2G]

16. So has he relocated to Texas? nt

[Paladin]

26. That's what worries me.

We already have Ted Nugent to deal with, here in Texas. Maybe Zimmerman's paying Nugent a visit; I'm sure they would enjoy one another's company.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. That's what I wanted to know.

Must be looking for fertile ground to plant his ass.

I assumed he would go back to Virginia and get lost in the woods somewhere.

[totodeinhere]

32. It would seem like a friendly environment for him.

He should fit right in with all of the racist crazies down there.

[TBF]

39. That's all we need. nt

[uponit7771]

108. please no

[Mr. David]

23. Cops see GZ, gives him a free pass.

Said cop should be turning in his service weapon and his badge and be detained for failure to do his duty.

And then re-arrest GZ and ticket him for speeding, and prosecute him to the fullest. Make him do that 10 day stay plus $1,500 fines and... and... and......


Ah, I give up.

[B2G]

31. You can't be arrested for speeding

Other than that, your post makes perfect sense.

/s

[NewThinkingChance40]

47. Actually...

if you are going fast enough you can

[B2G]

48. He'd have to have been mega-speeding

for that to occur.

[quinnox]

49. do a google search of "arrested for speeding"

and your mind will be blown.

[B2G]

52. "110 MPH in a 55 MPH zone"

All going insane amounts over the speed limit.

That was my point exactly.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Sooner or later

An accident might happen. : It's called thinning the herd. He might clean it and . . . oops!

[Bombero1956]

36. wow George

It's the 2013 George Zimmerman "Stand Your Ground Tour".

[UglyGreed]

42. Have gun

will travel

[frylock]

38. this guy is doing a hell of a job of staying underground

[UglyGreed]

40. One would think Georgie

would be on his best behavior after getting away with murder....

[quinnox]

46. He probably is feeling on the top of the world, invincible

"I was vindicated by a jury! I can do no wrong!"

Your approach would be the cautious one and one that makes sense, but Zimmy likely sees it another way.

[UglyGreed]

78. Indeed

let's hope his attitude does not lead to another senseless killing.

[napkinz]

44. He's BACK!!!!

[Hoyt]

51. Probably in Texas to "patrol" for some right wing Border Klan group or something.

Comforting to know Zimmy is patrolling the USA.

[Bonx]

53. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead -nt

[cigsandcoffee]

56. He has good reason to be armed now. n/t

[The Corrector]

57. An anonymous source to a celebrity gossip website will be trustworthy, if...

We want what is being reported to be true.

[The Straight Story]

58. Does this help you:

https://twitter.com/jdmiles11/status/362652462886313984/photo/1

[The Straight Story]

60. And CBS 11 has a copy of the police report:

CBS 11 has obtained a copy of the police report and will have more information on this story as it becomes available.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/07/31/george-zimmerman-stopped-for-speeding-in-north-texas/

You were saying?

[pintobean]

62. Your user name is hilarious

Where's your other post? I'd like to know if you're 3 for 3.

[Gothmog]

59. Thanks for the warning

Those of us who live in Texas will be keeping an eye out for Zimmerman. Luckily, it is too hot to wear hoodies

[B Calm]

63. Crossing state lines with a concealed weapon, and the fucking cop let him go!

[B2G]

66. How do you know he crossed state lines with it?

You don't.

[B Calm]

67. Was he driving his car? You don't know either,

and my guess he was!

[sarisataka]

68. That isn't illegal

assuming he has a FL permit, he can carry in the majority of states

[B Calm]

114. Which states did he drive through getting to Texas?

[X_Digger]

116. Any state from FL to TX has reciprocity with FL.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/florida.pdf

[sarisataka]

118. The closest states that do not recognize a FL permit

are Illinois and Maryland. That would be quite the detour if a person drove from Florida to Texas

[X_Digger]

70. ... which isn't illegal ... n/t

[B Calm]

115. Just like Zimmerman found Trayvon, I'll presume he's guilty!

[X_Digger]

117. Of what crime? You're not making much sense. n/t

[Skeeter Barnes]

75. info

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/FORMS/ReciprocityList.pdf

[GreenStormCloud]

127. Completely legal. N/T

[The Corrector]

64. Hey look what I found. Most of the time, cops give people either a warning, or do nothing

So in summary,
1) George Zimmerman was speeding and the cop did what cops usually do.
2) George Zimmerman was found to legally possess a gun.

When I first saw the title I thought guns were illegal in Texas, since Zimmerman was said to be "caught."

What's next? People being "caught" walking their dogs and wearing clothes?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235205000140

[pintobean]

65. Two wiffs and a foul

[The Straight Story]

69. SO you went from basically "it's not true" to "It's OK"

[pintobean]

73. Now I understand.

That post has been corrected (edited) 3 times.

[The Straight Story]

71. black and Hispanic drivers received traffic tickets at a rate twice their share of the population

Statewide, black and Hispanic drivers received traffic tickets at a rate twice their share of the population

http://www.boston.com/globe/metro/packages/tickets/010603.shtml

[The Straight Story]

72. And from the DOJ

* White drivers were more likely than both black and
Hispanic drivers to be stopped by police for speeding.
Subsequent to being stopped for speeding, blacks(78%)and
Hispanics(85%)were more likely than whites(70%)to receive
a ticket.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/cdsp02.txt

In 2002 whites, blacks, and Hispanics were stopped by police
at similar rates. Specifically, each group represented
approximately the same percentage of stopped drivers as they
did of drivers in the United States. For example --

* whites were 76.2% of U.S. drivers and 76.5% of drivers
stopped by police

* blacks were 10.5% of persons who drive and 11% of stopped
drivers

* Hispanics accounted for 9.7% of drivers and 9.5% of
stopped drivers.

Drivers of other races were a smaller percentage of stopped
motorists (2.9%) than of the driving population (3.6%).

Driver gender, age, and race/Hispanic origin

Young white male, young black male, and young Hispanic male
drivers were all more likely to be pulled over by police
than their older counterparts. Each of these groups of
younger male drivers was a larger percentage of drivers
stopped by police in 2002 than of the U.S. driving population.

[TeeYiYi]

74. Aah...so, your moniker has to do with your editing prowess. ;\ ..nt

TYY

[quinnox]

80. lol

[HappyMe]

82. Correctors gonna correct.

[The Straight Story]

85. Haters gonna hate, Mater's gonna mate

[quinnox]

79. welcome to DU, enjoy your stay

[Rex]

81. Nowhere on that page does it say anything that you stated in your reply

That is a pay for site if you want to see stats. Seriously, did you just link and go or did you take the time to read what you linked to?

Wow 4 posts and already on the failsauce!

Enjoy your stay...oh and...KEWL STORY BRA!

[The Corrector]

86. The burden is not on me

Whoever flips out about the cop not giving him a ticket or arresting are the ones who have absolutely no idea how frequently cops do what this cop did.

Why not just say, "I have no idea whether what this cop did is outside the normal or not"?

Hey Rex, What has the research you've done shown?

[Rex]

87. So now you did all the reseach on the page you linked to?

I've never seen someone get so bent out of shape over a news report. Why are you so mad? Did you take this personally in some way? The burden is on YOU, since you offered up stats that no one can see! Seriously enjoy your stay here...maybe you can actually contribute something besides a link that leads to a pay for site!

Most people get tickets for speeding...so sorry to burst that tiny little bubble you live in.

[Sissyk]

97. The Corrector!!!!!

Is it Zimmy, Rex????

He is upset over something very minor here, huh?

[BainsBane]

101. He googled. That took a lot of work.

[pintobean]

88. Flip out?

Like post #10?

You should have put a period at the end of your user name. It reminds me of someone.

[Rex]

93. .

[The Straight Story]

94. I did some research into it (see my posts above) and used to be a LEO

Cops can go either way but tend to favor white people, rich people, and famous people if they like them for some reason.

If the cop had given him a ticket folks on the right would be yelling he was targeted and there are lots of other speeders.

For me, in this case, would depend on how fast over the limit and the 'real' reason he was pulled over (I was pulled over in KS for going over the line, after talking to the officer a bit and explaining I used to be a cop he admitted he pulled me over because I had out of state plates and a car rental and he was checking to see if I was hauling drugs as that was the MO of many dealers running through that area).

Cop may have used it simply as an excuse (speeding), to check out other suspicions he may have had, hard to tell.

[The Corrector]

98. Link to the research

Let's see the data please. When people who are stopped are not white, do they not get warnings most of the time? (or the cop does nothing, too). Proof please.

[BainsBane]

99. Of all the times I've been stopped by cops

I recall exactly ONE warning, and it was a university police officer, not a city cop or highway patrol. All the other times I've gotten tickets. I'm a white woman. I hardly think I'm unique.

Clearly the cop favored Zimmerman. Like the rest of the gun totting racist trash in this country, they like the fact he killed a black person. That's who Zimmerman defenders are.

[The Straight Story]

112. Um, look upthread, I posted the link to the research

If you can't find the links let me know and I will repost them for ya

[BainsBane]

102. The abstract does NOT say most of the time

It doesn't give a percentage at all. For that you have to pay $19.95.

[Captain Stern]

119. Have you found out yet that it's legal to have a gun in your car in Texas?

You 'inCorrectorly' said earlier: " it is illegal to have a gun in the car in Texas"

[Captain Stern]

121. Come to think of it...hell, it's Texas..

...it's probably illegal to NOT have a gun your car. Shit, it's probably illegal to have a car, instead of a truck. And if you drive a hybrid, that's probably getting you the death penalty.

I kid. I'm in North Carolina, and we're not exactly covering ourselves with glory right now either.

[warrior1]

76. still breaking laws with police approval.

What happens when he kills someone else while he's speeding.

How do that not know if he's was drinking at the time?

[NoGOPZone]

84. Nowhere in particular?

No SUVs must have rolled over that day.

[Autumn]

89. Stay safe Texas

Keep an eye your kids.

[maveric56]

90. He'll kill again...

I fear.

[Harmony Blue]

95. This Zimmeran kid has a death wish

he needs to stay out of trouble.

[bluestate10]

107. He is going to meet a person who also has a gun and is more than willing to use that gun. nt

[Gothmog]

100. Juanita Jean is wondering how Zimmerman got by without a ticket

http://juanitajean.com/2013/07/31/hey-i-want-one-of-them-there-get-out-of-jail-free-cards/

[Pelican]

120. She never heard of a warning for a traffic violation before?

[malaise]

103. Didn't see your thread

This fucking murderer will end up in prison - mark my word

[The Straight Story]

105. No problem, have 51 ignoring me so they won't see it

[malaise]

106. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahaha

DUzy

[bluestate10]

109. Why do you care how many DU members have you on ignore?

I bet you more have me on ignore. You know what? I don't give a shit that they have me on ignore because they don't appear to be the type that can negotiate their way through a tough fight over ideas. Ignore is the domain of the weak willed, IMO. BTW, I often disagree sharply with you, but I often read you stuff and sometimes post.

[The Straight Story]

110. I don't really care, and I have none on ignore, BUT

It does explain many times why you see two of the same stories in GD and such (because you didn't see that people on ignore already posted it)

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

113. Yep,

dead on in jail by the time he's 35. Hopefully, the former, that way the tax payers don't have to feed him, and his supporters can commit ritual suicide on his grave.

[Taitertots]

104. Letting cops release people with a warning is a policy that breeds corruption and favoritism

[pintobean]

111. Here's dashcam video of the stop, TSS

Includes sound

[The Straight Story]

125. Nice find, seemed by the book (nt)

[flvegan]

126. So?

[Captain Stern]

129. If Zimmerman had made it to Arizona, and then been stopped and asked for his citizenship papers...

....would you all still think that was funny? Would it be funny because he looks hispanic (profiling, anyone)? Would it be funny if he got thrown in jail, even though he was still an American citizen!?!! Pretty funny stuff, huh?

For what it's worth, I actually do think that would be pretty funny.

[Simian20]

132. speeding on non-interstate / stopped and firsked

It might have been sweet justice if he was told to get out of the truck and stopped and frisked.

Check out Forney, Texas, the suburb of Dallas. There's no Interstate there. From the looks of the picture he was on US 80. Zoom in; there's lots of turns on and off the highway.

[GreenStormCloud]

135. Not an interstate, but US 80 is interstate quality. N/T

[jtuck004]

134. Aww, he's just going hunting. Again. n/t