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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:10 AM Aug 2013

American tourist snaps off finger to 600-year-old Italian statue, says he was trying to measure it

BY NINA GOLGOWSKI



An American tourist has sparked outrage overseas not for giving the finger but for accidentally taking one from a 600-year-old Italian statue.

An unidentified tourist at Florence's Museo dell'Opera del Duomo snapped off the pinky finger of a statue dating to the late 14th or early 15th century by medieval sculptor Giovanni D'Ambrogio, museum officials confirmed.



The tourist said to have been a 55-year-old man from Missouri, was reportedly trying to measure it when he violated museum decorum by putting his own hands on the marble art work titled, Annunciazione.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/tourist-snaps-600-year-old-statue-finger-article-1.1418763

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American tourist snaps off finger to 600-year-old Italian statue, says he was trying to measure it (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2013 OP
Oh come on, it's got nine others jberryhill Aug 2013 #1
So do you. :D DetlefK Aug 2013 #3
And one of them is busy right here, smarty pants jberryhill Aug 2013 #8
Being wagged at me, of course. DetlefK Aug 2013 #12
Not the wagger; the flipper. Just a guess. :D ..nt TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #20
Yeah, but is it still on your hand? kentauros Aug 2013 #18
The guy was a surgeon, right? jberryhill Aug 2013 #19
Surgeons normally work with flesh, not stone. kentauros Aug 2013 #22
"I'm a doctor, not a stone mason" jberryhill Aug 2013 #30
I can't see the clip, kentauros Aug 2013 #32
He's dead Jim, I'm a doctor Politicalboi Aug 2013 #76
Great clip--hilarious...! nt MADem Aug 2013 #77
what is the MATTER with people? CTyankee Aug 2013 #2
It's not like its the only one they have jberryhill Aug 2013 #13
He's American - he can touch anything he wants malaise Aug 2013 #26
My aunt once actually picked at a Van Gough !! She was distressed at the waste in the thick layer bettyellen Aug 2013 #29
He's got nothing to complain about jberryhill Aug 2013 #33
heh heh. It's funny, I was in HS at the time and my initial reaction was "Arrest her!", LOL... bettyellen Aug 2013 #34
an art tutorial in "impasto" would help...maybe... CTyankee Aug 2013 #41
there is no help for sociopaths. everyone is wrong except for her... doctors, lawyers, bettyellen Aug 2013 #58
Years ago, I was in the basement of the Smithsonian National Museum of American History William Seger Aug 2013 #67
Last name probably Griswold Fumesucker Aug 2013 #4
that made me lol boston bean Aug 2013 #28
The idiot is actually a surgeon from Connecticut (according to Daily Mail anyway) dorkzilla Aug 2013 #5
Because the ones acting badly ARE ignoramuses. kentauros Aug 2013 #21
It's not OK to broad brush and stereotype us all treestar Aug 2013 #48
Um...how much time have you spent abroad? dorkzilla Aug 2013 #64
coughbullshitcough cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #68
Well I guess you really told me, didnt you? dorkzilla Aug 2013 #70
What gave them away as Texans? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #71
They introduced themselves to us and others on the tour and told us so. N/t dorkzilla Aug 2013 #72
5 months in England, 2 weeks in France treestar Aug 2013 #82
Treestar, don't you know it's only Americans that act like boors when traveling overseas? Ikonoklast Aug 2013 #85
I'm sure he's not the first Italian to give an American tourist the finger... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #6
Nice. :) branford Aug 2013 #15
What the hell is wrong with people?! HappyMe Aug 2013 #7
superglue snooper2 Aug 2013 #9
The museum probably keeps it in a drawer someplace jberryhill Aug 2013 #11
You never know when you will need the Gorilla Glue . . . branford Aug 2013 #16
ah you beat me to the superglue post lol :) nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #66
My first thought, he must be from Florida. But no.. ananda Aug 2013 #10
The man is a surgeon from Connecticut, not Missouri, liberal N proud Aug 2013 #56
Museum etiquette: Clasp hands firmly behind your back- don't touch LeftinOH Aug 2013 #14
Oh yeah? jberryhill Aug 2013 #17
and ask beforehand if you can use a magnifying glass... CTyankee Aug 2013 #37
"that is a good way to get yourself thrown out of the building" jberryhill Aug 2013 #50
You could also openly carry a bottle of water, taking regular swigs as you sashay through CTyankee Aug 2013 #51
Idiot tourist newfie11 Aug 2013 #23
Could have been pipi_k Aug 2013 #24
That's just . . . wrong! :) n/t branford Aug 2013 #25
There's a fix for that too HolyMoley Aug 2013 #27
Well the excuse, "I was just trying to measure it!" would have made more sense. yellowcanine Aug 2013 #43
But I was just trying to measure it! /nt demwing Aug 2013 #47
Now that would be a souveneir! Brewinblue Aug 2013 #63
Indeed NickB79 Aug 2013 #79
If that statue Turbineguy Aug 2013 #31
Has anybody seen Louie Gohmert lately? Botany Aug 2013 #35
Holy shit. LWolf Aug 2013 #36
First rule of museums... actslikeacarrot Aug 2013 #38
I hate people. nt Javaman Aug 2013 #39
What a whackadoodle. My favorite comment from the link...... yellowcanine Aug 2013 #40
the good news is, per one article I read, it was not the original finger magical thyme Aug 2013 #42
It is amazing to me that during WW2 the Mona Lisa was carted around France and hidden in CTyankee Aug 2013 #55
Yeah, looking at that statue, I would assume it has plenty of repairs done to it. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #73
This could be a future question in the Friday Afternoon Challenge! GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2013 #44
No. After this thread, that would be too obvious! CTyankee Aug 2013 #53
This is why us Canucks wear a maple leaf when traveling Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #45
As a USA'n I agree. RC Aug 2013 #54
Everyone else wears clothes jberryhill Aug 2013 #61
That's why we make friends so easily Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #62
"Wow! What cheap shoddy workmanship! Why don't folk make stuff that lasts?" struggle4progress Aug 2013 #46
They also make Fiats jberryhill Aug 2013 #49
Yeah, there's a reason Fiat stands for "Fix it again, Tony!" CTyankee Aug 2013 #52
all this over some used marble? It's not even new! ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #84
Thankfully the digit was not an original greytdemocrat Aug 2013 #57
I thought as much from looking at the picture FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #59
It was digitally re-mastered jberryhill Aug 2013 #60
Hey, no big problem, you just SUPERGLUE that thing back on ! steve2470 Aug 2013 #65
What? No DucTape? HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #69
Good thing this buffoon didn't make it to Paris Spirochete Aug 2013 #74
Peru's most sacred site, Machu Picchu, has been damaged during a shoot for a beer commercial. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #75
Who issued a permit for that? jberryhill Aug 2013 #78
Super glue. . B Calm Aug 2013 #80
His nationality is irrelevant. I doubt most in Europe care. Dash87 Aug 2013 #81
looks like plaster model w all the fingers on rebarb base. Sunlei Aug 2013 #83

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. what is the MATTER with people?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:18 AM
Aug 2013

What kind of idiot thinks it's OK to touch museum pieces, or even get close enough to "measure" it?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. It's not like its the only one they have
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:50 AM
Aug 2013

Them Italians got gobs of old statues.

I seen one just like that one at lots of garage sales.

malaise

(269,045 posts)
26. He's American - he can touch anything he wants
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:24 AM
Aug 2013

Mess with him and he'll 'drone' you

Seriously that's the definition of the 'ugly American'.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. My aunt once actually picked at a Van Gough !! She was distressed at the waste in the thick layer
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:32 AM
Aug 2013

of paint "wasted" and basicially trying to chip a little off to prove her point. I was hoping she would get arrested, LOL. But the guard didn't see her finger actually scraping.

At the Met last weekend I could not stand the din of alarms going off as tourists kept trying to touch clothing in the exhibit. The guards couldn't keep up with it, and it gave me a headache. What can I say, everyone acts like they are at the mall or in their living room these days.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
34. heh heh. It's funny, I was in HS at the time and my initial reaction was "Arrest her!", LOL...
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:43 AM
Aug 2013

my aunt is a sociopath, and I was hoping it would catch up with her someday. No luck.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
41. an art tutorial in "impasto" would help...maybe...
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:54 AM
Aug 2013

but art does make some people crazy, or crazier I should say. Plenty of unbalanced people have attacked great works of art...some guy went after the Pieta with a hammer and that's why it's behind plexiglass now...

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. there is no help for sociopaths. everyone is wrong except for her... doctors, lawyers,
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 12:07 PM
Aug 2013

Albert Einstein and Vincent Van G. Wrong wrong wrong and wrong. I'm not kidding in the least when I say I hoped she got arrested, she gets away with everything. Little old ladies fool everybody!

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
67. Years ago, I was in the basement of the Smithsonian National Museum of American History
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:10 PM
Aug 2013

... where they have several sections and one of the control consoles of the Eniac, the first "general purpose" (programmable) electronic computer. It was a weekday afternoon, and no one else was around. The console was just sitting out where it could be touched, and I couldn't resist giving the Speed control (!) a turn. It came off in my hand! I put it back and quickly left.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
5. The idiot is actually a surgeon from Connecticut (according to Daily Mail anyway)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:27 AM
Aug 2013

Here is their "exclusive":

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385591/Patrick-Broderick-The-American-SURGEON-accidentally-snapped-finger-600-year-old-marble-statue-Florence-museum-youd-thought-hed-better-hands.html

I suppose it's wrong to assume that an educated person would have the good sense to NOT TOUCH THE ARTWORKS.

Why is it every time I go abroad there are always plenty of Americans acting badly and making the rest of us look like ignoramuses.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
21. Because the ones acting badly ARE ignoramuses.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:56 AM
Aug 2013

Airlines need to make Rick Steves PBS shows the only available video entertainment on their media systems. Then, at least, some of these ignoramuses would be educated on how to act while visiting.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
48. It's not OK to broad brush and stereotype us all
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:02 AM
Aug 2013

It would be like saying the French are snobs, or the like.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
64. Um...how much time have you spent abroad?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:48 PM
Aug 2013

I'm not painting anyone with a broad brush, but if you spent anytime in a major museum, historic site etc the ones asking the most idiotic questions are American.

True story: I went to London a few years ago in the dead of winter, so there were no tourists around. So I went to Hampton Court and had the place all to myself. Anyway, I got a really great private tour, and when the tour concluded i asked him some very specific questions which startled him apparently; as he turned to me and and asked "you're Canadian, right"? After I told him I was from metro NY he said "wow, I'm really impressed. Americans NEVER ask any relevant questions or anything which answer doesn't confirm their 'we're #1 attitude they all seem to have".

A trip to Paris a few years ago--big loud Texans in the back of a double decker bus saying "we are real Americans, not like those liberal snobs".

Btw, I said "plenty" of Americans, not all.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
71. What gave them away as Texans?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:53 PM
Aug 2013

Their accents? They told you? You asked them?

Or was it their "Kiss Me I'm From Texas" tank tops?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
82. 5 months in England, 2 weeks in France
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:56 AM
Aug 2013

one week in Mexico, a few days in Canada, 3 weeks in Australia.

Never saw another American behave badly, behaved well myself.

People in those countries were very nice. One stopped and volunteered to take my photo in front of the Sydney Opera House (I was by myself). People in London stopped to help us when we were looking at maps.

People in Paris were very nice, which I had sort of not been expecting. We were there when Chimpy was still in office.

I heard an Israeli talking from the seat in front of me on a tour bus. He had been to the US as a tourist and he and his wife warmly praised America as very well prepared to welcome tourists.

The who Ugly American thing is a stereotype.



Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
85. Treestar, don't you know it's only Americans that act like boors when traveling overseas?
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:41 AM
Aug 2013

People that say that have never seen vacationers from other EU nations at the Costa del Sol acting like idiots.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
7. What the hell is wrong with people?!
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:44 AM
Aug 2013


I don't understand why this asshat thought that touching this 600 year old statue was a great fucking idea.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. The museum probably keeps it in a drawer someplace
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:49 AM
Aug 2013

And if the superglue doesn't do it, then just put some duct tape on the back of it and turn the statue a little, so nobody will see it.

Although, when you think about it - a 600 year old statue is kind of dated anyway. They should get some newer stuff.

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
14. Museum etiquette: Clasp hands firmly behind your back- don't touch
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:50 AM
Aug 2013

stuff. Lean in close to the artworks and displays to experience them with your eyes (and with the EYES only).

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
37. and ask beforehand if you can use a magnifying glass...
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:48 AM
Aug 2013

some museums are stricter than others...at the Louvre, you practically have to take off your shoes like with airport security! With others, they allow pics but no flash and some no pics at all. Some don't like the magnifying glass because they fear it would magnify any light that could burn the canvas or panel...and if you get too close, many museums have sensors that will set off an alarm and that is a good way to get yourself thrown out of the building...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
50. "that is a good way to get yourself thrown out of the building"
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:05 AM
Aug 2013

And thank goodness for that, because it can be tricky to find your way out on your own.

Although I usually just pull a fire alarm and follow the crowd.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
51. You could also openly carry a bottle of water, taking regular swigs as you sashay through
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:12 AM
Aug 2013

the museum. They love to see people with open bottles/cans of liquid in their hands...

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
43. Well the excuse, "I was just trying to measure it!" would have made more sense.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:56 AM
Aug 2013

I mean, who is concerned about the length of a finger? OTOH, a penis.......

Brewinblue

(392 posts)
63. Now that would be a souveneir!
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aug 2013

Would have made a great I Love Lucy episode during their trip to Europe.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
40. What a whackadoodle. My favorite comment from the link......
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:54 AM
Aug 2013
CHILAWYER9 hours ago

Even in this digital age, a finger for a finger. Just pull this Show-Me state bumpkin's pinky out of his nose and whack it off.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
42. the good news is, per one article I read, it was not the original finger
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:55 AM
Aug 2013

Apparently it had already been repaired, so he broke off the repair finger.

But still, what is wrong with people that they think they have a right to touch anything they want? What an effing ahole american.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
55. It is amazing to me that during WW2 the Mona Lisa was carted around France and hidden in
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:23 AM
Aug 2013

various remote places to keep the German army from finding it and taking it back to the Fuehrer!

In Bruges I saw the damage done to Michelangelo's Madonna when that sculpture was hauled off, first by Napoleon and then by the Germans. It's a wonder it was returned both times safe with only some minor scuffing and chipping.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
45. This is why us Canucks wear a maple leaf when traveling
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:58 AM
Aug 2013

And I want you Yanks wearing maple leaves to stop it as you're diluting the brand.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
54. As a USA'n I agree.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:22 AM
Aug 2013

I what to know who the real Canadians are, so I know who to mingle with. Too many USA'ns think the rest of the world is the same as home. Speak louder if they don't understand you.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
75. Peru's most sacred site, Machu Picchu, has been damaged during a shoot for a beer commercial.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:32 AM
Aug 2013

Peru's most sacred site, Machu Picchu, has been damaged during a shoot for a beer commercial.

They've struck at our most sacred inheritance. This is an affront to our ancestors

Archaeologist Federico Kaufmann Doig
The Inca citadel, 2,400 metres (7,782 feet) high in the Andes, was being used in the ad for Cusquena beer by US publicity firm J Walter Thompson when a crane smashed into a centuries-old granite sun clock.

The Intihuatana, or "hitching post for the sun", an integral part of the spectacular site which is protected by the UN and is visited by thousands of tourists every year, now has a gash as long as a ball-point pen.


Criminal charges, which carry a two-to-four-year prison sentence have been filed against the production company.

Federico Kaufmann Doig, a prestigious Peruvian archaeologist, said: "Machu Picchu is the heart of our archaeological heritage and the Intihuatana is the heart of Machu Picchu.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
81. His nationality is irrelevant. I doubt most in Europe care.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 08:12 AM
Aug 2013

This is more manufactured outrage. They can just repair the statue and it will be like nothing happened.

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