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babsbunny

(8,441 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:06 PM Sep 2013

34 minutes ago Hillary Clinton supports Obama on Syria

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/03/hillary-clinton-supports-obama-on-syria/

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CNN Political Unit

(CNN) – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton backs President Barack Obama's proposal to take military action in Syria, an aide told CNN's Jessica Yellin on Tuesday.

"Secretary Clinton supports the President's effort to enlist the Congress in pursuing a strong and targeted response to the Assad regime's horrific use of chemical weapons," the aide said.
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34 minutes ago Hillary Clinton supports Obama on Syria (Original Post) babsbunny Sep 2013 OP
Of course she does. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #1
The only surprise is that she's not criticising Obama kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #4
No kidding. potone Sep 2013 #5
2 million of them have already fled....and that had nothing to do with us. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #32
What war has she ever opposed? cpwm17 Sep 2013 #2
She's been advocating for war with Syria for quite a while. AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #3
If this thing goes south she's done as a 2016 candidate bigdarryl Sep 2013 #6
Just like she had no traction in 2008 after voting for the Iraq War? brooklynite Sep 2013 #14
The DNC and the 1% tried to anoint her.... daleanime Sep 2013 #26
She ran a lousy campaign. brooklynite Sep 2013 #27
So what were those few differences between candidates again? daleanime Sep 2013 #28
Policy differences were negligible. brooklynite Sep 2013 #29
Negligible.... daleanime Sep 2013 #31
Show me any evidence that it had an impact... brooklynite Sep 2013 #33
The Resistance that I seeing...... daleanime Sep 2013 #34
Is that like "the enthusiasm I see on the ground tells me we're going to win"? brooklynite Sep 2013 #37
No...... daleanime Sep 2013 #39
Hillary Clinton has never known a war she didn't like.... mike_c Sep 2013 #7
Why didn't she push for this when she was SOS? leftstreet Sep 2013 #8
she did push for it early on , it was the chemical attacks JI7 Sep 2013 #11
Before the attack? karynnj Sep 2013 #30
Really? Wow! tazkcmo Sep 2013 #9
I was just thinking today that she had been lucky/smart to leave when she did n2doc Sep 2013 #10
Yeah, but I don't. Iggo Sep 2013 #12
We are all anti-war... jessie04 Sep 2013 #15
You're right. We're not. Iggo Sep 2013 #17
Except you're not anti-war if you're in favor of dropping bombs in response to those other things. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #18
No, I'm not a pacifist. jessie04 Sep 2013 #19
And lobbing cruise missiles and bombs at Syria is going to do that how? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #21
I love Hillary. jessie04 Sep 2013 #13
As do I philosslayer Sep 2013 #40
One more reason she should never be President. 99Forever Sep 2013 #16
She just lost my vote in the general LittleBlue Sep 2013 #20
well, well, well... are we surprised? nt antigop Sep 2013 #22
Like I needed another reason not to support her. n/t dflprincess Sep 2013 #23
Kick, a rational leader. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #24
Shocking jsr Sep 2013 #25
Yeah, like that was a cliffhanger. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #35
Love Hillary for Kosovo Sand Wind Sep 2013 #36
Kick! Love her! LukeFL Sep 2013 #38

potone

(1,701 posts)
5. No kidding.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:19 PM
Sep 2013

One would hardly expect her to oppose it. She has many admirable qualities, but she is something of a hawk in foreign affairs. What I don't understand is why people who should realize how risky this situation is are not worried about the escalation in the number of Syrians who are likely to flee the country as a result of this. Is Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Turkey on board with this? Surely they are the countries that will be most directly affected in addition to the Syrians themselves.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
32. 2 million of them have already fled....and that had nothing to do with us.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:38 AM
Sep 2013

think about that for a moment...2 million people left their home country....for a life of abject poverty in refugee camps....cause that life is better than the war zone at home. Possibly because they have known for sometime about the low level chemical weapons usage.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
6. If this thing goes south she's done as a 2016 candidate
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:37 PM
Sep 2013

Because my word someone to her left will be opposed to this war in the primary.

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
27. She ran a lousy campaign.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:11 AM
Sep 2013

Poor planning and bad advisers. In particular her unawareness of how the caucus States would play out.

But she was competitive until the last minute. Show me where her position on Iraq affected her chances.

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
29. Policy differences were negligible.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:28 AM
Sep 2013

...it was largely a choice between "experience" and perceived leadership ability vs and abstract hope for "change"

(and I say this as someone who volunteered for her campaign)

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
31. Negligible....
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:36 AM
Sep 2013

means that they did exist. Even if you don't want them to. Any your 'willing' to share with us?


brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
33. Show me any evidence that it had an impact...
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:40 AM
Sep 2013

polling data? A critical campaign ad? A debate point? I'm not aware of one.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
34. The Resistance that I seeing......
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:28 AM
Sep 2013

tells me what I want to know.


Sleep soundly with the knowledge that nobody can force you to think.

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
37. Is that like "the enthusiasm I see on the ground tells me we're going to win"?
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 07:11 AM
Sep 2013

A time-honored belief.

leftstreet

(36,117 posts)
8. Why didn't she push for this when she was SOS?
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:40 PM
Sep 2013

To hear Kerry talk you'd think the US should have intervened by now, it's just so fucking dire!

Where was Hillary?

JI7

(89,281 posts)
11. she did push for it early on , it was the chemical attacks
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:23 PM
Sep 2013

which got OBama to respond. but she wanted to arm the rebels early on.

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
30. Before the attack?
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:30 AM
Sep 2013

Her position over the last 2 years were closer to McCain than to Kucinich or even Kerry.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. I was just thinking today that she had been lucky/smart to leave when she did
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:20 PM
Sep 2013

And then she had to go and ruin it by opening her mouth. I guess the 1%ers are pretty confident that this won't become a debacle like Iraq and lead to people actually voting against war supporters.

Iggo

(47,579 posts)
12. Yeah, but I don't.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:26 PM
Sep 2013

Gettin' harder and harder to be an anti-war progressive here at the DU. Totally did not see that coming.

Weird.

 

jessie04

(1,528 posts)
15. We are all anti-war...
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:32 PM
Sep 2013

but we are not...

pro-chemical weapons
pro- murder of 100,000 innocents
pro- sarin gas
pro- 400 gassed children
pro-future biologic and nuclear weapon usage

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
18. Except you're not anti-war if you're in favor of dropping bombs in response to those other things.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:42 PM
Sep 2013
 

jessie04

(1,528 posts)
19. No, I'm not a pacifist.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:11 PM
Sep 2013

My idea of progressive liberalism is standing up for innocents and against chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
21. And lobbing cruise missiles and bombs at Syria is going to do that how?
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:18 PM
Sep 2013

I'm not a pacifist either, but not a single goddamned US action in the Middle East has ever worked out for the best or done anything remotely close to saving innocent lives.

I have absolutely no reason to believe this one will either.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
20. She just lost my vote in the general
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:16 PM
Sep 2013

if she makes it that far.

I will show this to every antiwar person I know so that they can make an informed choice.

Thanks for making it easy for me, Hillary

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