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Does this sound bad to you "If he's jealous, he cares" (Original Post) Bay Boy Sep 2013 OP
Having an esoteric conversation in a public forum is orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #1
Are you ridiculing me for posting this? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #21
Not at all !!!! A dangerous situation like that needs Personal, orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #30
Thank you... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #33
more like if he's jealous he's insecure. Same goes for women by the way. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #2
Someone needs to point out to her that jealousy is an expression of selfishness Scootaloo Sep 2013 #3
This. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #22
Can be a red flag for control freak boyfriend... polichick Sep 2013 #4
sounds like excuse for abuse to me JI7 Sep 2013 #5
If he's jealous, he doesn't trust you. Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #6
the man is knit out of reg flags! bettyellen Sep 2013 #12
LOL. Yeah, I met that guy once. Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #15
I have known a few- very frightening once you see what they really are, huh? bettyellen Sep 2013 #17
If he's jealous, Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #7
+100 on that. nt narnian60 Sep 2013 #10
that is not good Skittles Sep 2013 #8
Sounds like a recipe for trouble to me. Brigid Sep 2013 #9
Fully endorse respo see 2-8 Luminous Animal Sep 2013 #11
Jealousy is a sign he cares about you as a possession, not a person. winter is coming Sep 2013 #13
"If he's jealous, he can justify beating the shit out of you". Throd Sep 2013 #14
Sounds a lot like "He wouldn't beat me if he didn't love me." (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #16
Then there is the... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #20
Yeah. Sad, sad, sad. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #23
"Red flags" always sound bad to me. n/t etherealtruth Sep 2013 #18
That young girl is in for a world of abuse in life BainsBane Sep 2013 #19
YES. lapislzi Sep 2013 #24
Depends on how young, degree and a lot of other things. Xyzse Sep 2013 #25
Totally disagree about the high school thing Nevernose Sep 2013 #32
Jealousy has no place in anything. dogknob Sep 2013 #26
Jealousy is corrosive, and is not a sign of anything positive. arcane1 Sep 2013 #27
Yes a red flag but also probably a projection of her own emotional mode KurtNYC Sep 2013 #28
I don't like jealousy, but have gotten into trouble for it! David__77 Sep 2013 #29
If he's jealous, he cares...about losing something he thinks belongs to him. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #31
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. Having an esoteric conversation in a public forum is
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:05 PM
Sep 2013

juvenile, which in this day and age isn't a clue to the posters age .

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
30. Not at all !!!! A dangerous situation like that needs Personal,
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 05:41 PM
Sep 2013

Professional help, not Facebook. As far as You bringing it up for discussion on DU, I thought the subject and the comments were Spot On .

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
33. Thank you...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:25 PM
Sep 2013

...for clearing that up. I don't know the girl, wish I knew how to help her. My only contact is through Facebook through my daughter in law and she doesn't know her very well either.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. more like if he's jealous he's insecure. Same goes for women by the way.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:06 PM
Sep 2013

I've been married for 19 years. It takes a lot of courage to trust somone especially if you've been hurt before but it can really lead to a fulfilling relationship if you will just be secure enough in yourself, your partner, and your relationship to not be jealous. Jealousy usually leads the other person to feel smothered and not trusted. This can lead to a break up.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Someone needs to point out to her that jealousy is an expression of selfishness
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:08 PM
Sep 2013

That's not in and of itself a bad thing - everyone's selfish, everyone gets jealous, it's just the way we are. But it's not an expression of care, and if you convince yourself to read jealousy as caring, possessiveness as love.. .you're going to eventually get in a situation to be hurt.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
22. This.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:54 AM
Sep 2013

Jealousy is not an expression of love, commitment, or anything else positive in a relationship.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
6. If he's jealous, he doesn't trust you.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:15 PM
Sep 2013

If he doesn't trust you, he will only get worse.

Red flags all over the place.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. the man is knit out of reg flags!
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:55 PM
Sep 2013

Not necessarily, but I have been waiting for an excuse to say that, lol.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
15. LOL. Yeah, I met that guy once.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:04 PM
Sep 2013

I lived with him for 4 years before I got out. Not that he was jealous. He was a sociopath.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
8. that is not good
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:18 PM
Sep 2013

a certain amount of jealousy is normal but as is it an indication of how much someone cares? No.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
9. Sounds like a recipe for trouble to me.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:20 PM
Sep 2013

Unfortunately, this girl/woman will probably learn the hard way.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
11. Fully endorse respo see 2-8
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:23 PM
Sep 2013

And I recommend a casual conversation about the corrosive affects that jealousy has on a relationship. You have the right instincts. Perhaps you can do a little research about teens relationships and jealousy.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
13. Jealousy is a sign he cares about you as a possession, not a person.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:58 PM
Sep 2013

If jealousy is the way you know someone cares about you, he/she doesn't care about you.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
25. Depends on how young, degree and a lot of other things.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:42 AM
Sep 2013

Jealousy is a mixed bag, particularly when young. When hormones are out of flux particularly adolescence, kids don't really know how to control their emotions well.

I'd give it a break particularly in High School, they are still trying to figure things out.
I don't need to add judgment in that too much.

As a guy, some jealousy is alright, but there must be trust. The ability to do activities and hanging with their friends beyond another person is important.

I'd have to question the degree of jealousy. If it is in any way violent or explosive, run, don't walk, RUN away... Far far away. This goes with any one, male or female.

I had this friend, who even at her 20s has explosive jealous rage. I am glad I never considered a relationship beyond friends with her, since even as a friend, I'd have to walk on egg shells around her sometimes. It is better to be the friend who got away, rather than the jerk-wad ex.

When older though, there is no reason to keep up with something like that. It just isn't worth it. Middle/High Schoolers get a slight pass on this one, since they are still learning, once out of school, there is no point.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
32. Totally disagree about the high school thing
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:10 PM
Sep 2013

I've seen too many girls (it's usually girls who are victims at that age, although it happens to men more often than people realize) in high school in relationships every bit as dysfunctional and abusive as any woman in her forties.

I'm talking:
Threats of violence
Actual violence
Threats of suicide
An actual suicide
Stalking in dozens of ways
Explosive outbursts
Threats against family members
Sexual violence
Substance abuse
Restraining orders
A thousand other things on the warning lists

And always followed, naturally, with "I'm sorry, I love you, it will never happen again."

Granted, high school girls are still trying to figure things out and very rarely bother to think out the substance of something that initially seemed cute on Facebook. That having been said: shit like the OP needs to be set straight ASAP.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
26. Jealousy has no place in anything.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:46 AM
Sep 2013

If I like you, it means I want happiness and good things for you... no matter what.

I am not part of that; what I get from my relationship with you is not important, but if I am getting hurt or taken advantage of, the relationship is over. Period.

Hard to grasp at 16... but not any less true.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. Jealousy is corrosive, and is not a sign of anything positive.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:01 PM
Sep 2013

Whoever wrote that is an idiot to think that way.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
28. Yes a red flag but also probably a projection of her own emotional mode
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:18 PM
Sep 2013

Meaning that she believes jealousy is a component of a romantic relationship.

As adults, we see it as a lack of trust and perhaps a lack of real intimacy, but some younger people mistake such emotional fireworks for a relationship with depth.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
29. I don't like jealousy, but have gotten into trouble for it!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:54 PM
Sep 2013

My current boyfriend and past partners have not liked the fact that I am not a jealous person. They WANT and even try to provoke jealousy. I think it's emotionally corrosive. And it can also be dangerous.

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