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Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:46 PM Sep 2013

For the first 10 minutes of every class, my professor discusses Syria with us...

It is a history class on the Eastern Front in WWI and WWII.

His name is Mark Von Hagen.

The man knows essentially the complete history of the former Ottoman Empire. He discusses Syria with a very unbiased tone common of most historians (some might accuse him and others of acting too indifferent). However, it is made abundantly clear through these discussions and their interpolation into historical ongoings in that region of the world that the most fundamental issue underlying local and interstate conflict is foreign meddling. This goes back hundreds of years.

From my perspective, this foreign meddling is a product of globalization and, in essence, is nothing more than conflict induced to maintain certain capitalist ventures. They are market driven wars and this type of conflict has absolutely decimated the region.

When we talk about the Syrian conflict, really conflict in the surrounding region, we do not simply look 5, 10 or 20 years into the past. I don't think most people fully understand the history of countries like Syria. I know I only have a very tenuous grasp relative to Mr. Von Hagen and even now it seems obvious that Europe and the United States have been molesting the area with their greedy little fingers for too long.

Now, in 2013, we have a body of European and American leaders calling for military intervention. This is not a new history.

Meet the new history makers
Same as the old history makers.


Needless to say, I am skeptical. And when a well-learned scholar comes to similar conclusions, I am inclined to heed his warnings.

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For the first 10 minutes of every class, my professor discusses Syria with us... (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 OP
"Foreign meddling" drew the maps and borders that we use today. arcane1 Sep 2013 #1
So many children, and adults, that have never known anything but war and fear polly7 Sep 2013 #2
It's all about getting an OIL PIPELINE! Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #3
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. "Foreign meddling" drew the maps and borders that we use today.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:53 PM
Sep 2013

I wouldn't want China and Russia to carve the U.S. into a dozen different countries, and tell each one how to live.

And if they did it 50, 75, or 100 years ago, I would expect the people here to be just as peeved as their predecessors.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. So many children, and adults, that have never known anything but war and fear
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:57 PM
Sep 2013

because of outside interference. It's just sad to think what many of them could have been.

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