Lawrence O'Donnell made a fool of himself.

[Fawke Em]

Really?

Yeah.

Look, Anthony Weiner isn't going to win, now. Duh. So, why put him on to ask him psychological questions that O'Donnell has no merit to ask?

Would O'Donnell ask Bill Clinton, "What's wrong with you?" Fuck, no. And Clinton PHYSICALLY cheated. Weiner Tweeted his, well, weiner. I wouldn't like it if my husband did that, but I wouldn't consider it a divorcable offense, unlike what Clinton did.



I'm sure I'll be harangued on here. I seem to be too left for DU these days.

[quinnox]

1. Well, you and the other duer who made a thread about it must be part of the dozen that make up

MSNBC's total audience. Ignore my post. Sorry.

[Fawke Em]

2. I have AT&T.

I can't watch al-Jazeera.

[quinnox]

3. I hear ya

sorry, it was a silly joke I made, couldn't resist.

[Fawke Em]

6. It's OK. My son is using this as leverage.

My incredibly intelligent son, who happens to like to game, wants us to leave AT&T and move to Comcast/Xfinity because of their gaming speeds. We don't much care for Comcast, locally, because of their poor history of service and, in our large-tree-laden neighborhood, their lack of response when cable/internet/phone goes down (our AT&T box allows us 4 to 5 hours of internet service on a battery pack so we can check our wireless devices for weather updates).

So... my son learned that we didn't switch from Current to al-Jazeera because of a conflict with AT&T.

Now, you have to know that my son is half Arabic. My ex, his father, is from Jordan. And he knows I'm fond of foreign news and find al-Jazeera particularly interesting, so he's lobbying on that to get us to switch.

I get the ploy, but find him industrious, all the same.

[quinnox]

7. Sounds like a smart dude

Listen to him!

[Fawke Em]

9. I do.

I divorced his dead-beat dad when he was 15 months old. We grew up together.

Now, I'm remarried and we have a 6-year-old girl. She's the baby. And my son - and he's only mine, quite literally and legally - after she was born told me she was the cutest thing he'd ever seen. I knew we had a family.

[Beaverhausen]

4. I agree that was simply uncalled for

Cringeworthy. And I'm a big Lawrence fan.

[Fawke Em]

5. Me, too.

He'd been, generally, fair to Weiner, so this was uncouth, as my Mom would say.

[wisteria]

8. O"Donnell was out of line.

I didn't get why he even had him on if he wasn't going to at least let him speak. Frankly, Weiner was a good advocate for the poor and middle class. If he thinks he can do some good by running and winning political posts, than fine. You can either vote for him or not vote for him. I felt like asking O'Donnell why he feels a need to be on TV.

[Fawke Em]

13. Agreed, wholeheartedly.

That was completely unnecessary.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

10. It was strange. I thought Weiner was there to answer questions from viewers. In fact...

Larry told viewers to get ready with their questions. What happened? There were no questions?

Weiner got a good dig in. He said something like: no one watches your show, so why would I hang around and go online. BOOM!! That was good.

I love Larry O, but I couldn't understand what happened there. He was a total nutcase tonight. Weiner is a nutcase, too, but Larry was off the chain tonight.

[Fawke Em]

14. I guess it was about this...

"I have the biggest dick (power) and you don't."

That's the only thing I got out of that.

[Rhiannon12866]

30. There has to be bad blood because Weiner lied on MSNBC

I remember that he said his Twitter account had to have been hacked right to Rachel's face and they've repeated the segment. Even so, it made me cringe, too.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

21. What I wouldn't give for a O'Donnell-Trump throwdown

it would be the greatest thing ever

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

11. all I saw was the sad spectacle of wasted potential

In his combativeness and retorts, I was briefly reminded of what Weiner could have been, had he been able to control his narcissism and keep his pants on.
The guy is intelligent, plain-spoken and can make a passionate case. It's a shame his ego, dishonesty and lack of self-control has turned him into a national punchline.
He could have done a lot of good, but alas, he now heads to the dustbin of history.

[xfundy]

12. Clinton cheated.

What part of the constitution did that violate?

None. So get over it.

[dionysus]

15. yeah, that's nice and all but he made himself a joke that can't win the election. nt

[Fawke Em]

17. Why?

What's the difference between Clinton (or Kennedy or Roosevelt, except for the fact that Weiner didn't actually, you know, cheat) and why is the DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT going after him like this?

That's my question.

[Fawke Em]

16. That's my point.

Why is Weiner being raked over the coals for something that wasn't as bad as what Clinton did, morally (in a marriage).

I don't care, but why is it that Weiner is being asked, "What's wrong with you," but Clinton wasn't, by the Dem establishment?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

18. I doubt, as president, Clinton would have been doing a 10 pm cable show during the scandal

Weiner did, so he was an easy target

[Fawke Em]

19. I can understand that.

I still think it made O'Donnell look like an establishment tramp.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

20. Pre-meltdown Weiner was pretty Democratic establishment

and his views on Israel-Palestine are as hardline as the worst of the GOP

Remember how nasty he was too Helen Thomas?

I never bought him as some great progressive. I think he just knew how to get himself on TV with snark.

[Fawke Em]

23. Yeah, I actually do.

My first husband is from Jordan, but identifies as Palestinian since that's where his parents were born. My husband, now, is Jewish.

The one thing they agree on, besides that I have a great butt, is that the U.S. needs to be more fair on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. They seriously agree on this ( and I apologize for the butt joke, but they did discuss that).

He did say that Palestinians don't exist. I remember that, but, you know, so does every other politician
. It's not politically feasible.

[veganlush]

31. but you do have a great butt...i bet

[Buns_of_Fire]

22. It was not "TV Worth Watching," that's for sure.

Actually, it was a pretty unpleasant experience -- ten or so minutes of crosstalk. I'd never seen O'Donnell so strident.

I'm sure MSNBC is hearing some of the same comments as on this thread. There may be a mention of the whole sorry segment on tonight's show.

[hrmjustin]

24. He was cruel on that show. Was his worst moment.

[Lil Missy]

25. O'Donnell was rude. It was all completely out of line.

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. Weird interview. Didn't do either of them any good. Weiner just seems...

creepier now, and LO was rude. Why wouldn't Weiner admit to being a unregistered lobbyist? LO has been around Capitol Hill for many years, so I believe him when he characterizes Weiner's last job as a lobbyist.

[JI7]

27. this is even worse while watching it, makes them both look bad

[dmr]

28. It was bad. Disgusting, really.

It looked like a hit job, considering it was the night before the election.

I like O'Donnell's show, but sometimes he makes me cringe. Tonight was cringe-worthy.

[Rhiannon12866]

29. No, it made me cringe, too...

That was very strange and Weiner looked gobsmacked...

[Pisces]

32. This was a ridiculous interview. Anthony Weiner looked good and O'Donnell looked like a complete

hack. If you watched the rest of the web interview it got worse for O'Donnell. What was he thinking. He needs to watch
Rachel Maddow and take some interviewing lessons.