This is why I never go hiking with my wife.

[trumad]

Montana newlywed faces murder charge for shoving husband off cliff

(Reuters) - A Montana woman was charged on Monday with killing her husband of eight days by pushing him off a cliff at Glacier National Park during an argument and after expressing doubts about the marriage, court records show.

<snip>
Graham on July 11 reported to emergency dispatchers at Glacier National Park that she had found her husband's body below a steep hiking path. It was not immediately clear how far he had fallen.

Graham later admitted to authorities that she had lied about Johnson's death and that she had shoved him off a cliff during an argument while hiking, according to a sworn statement by FBI Special Agent Steven Liss.

Graham said Johnson grabbed her arm during the dispute.

"Graham stated she could have just walked away, but due to anger, she pushed Johnson with both hands in the back and as a result, he fell face first off the cliff," Liss said in the affidavit.

Graham and Johnson were married on June 29. Soon after the wedding, Graham told a friend that she was having second thoughts about marrying him, Liss said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-usa-crime-montana-20130909,0,946381.story

[Little Star]

1. lol.

[Gemini Cat]

3. You find that funny?

I don't find killing someone all that funny.

[Little Star]

5. I found it funny that trumad won't go hiking with his wife. Duh!

[Cleita]

2. Not in Glacier anyway. Those are steep precipices there. Just a small slip

and you are a goner. You don't even need someone to push you.

[Happyhippychick]

4. Spoiler alert, completely tasteless joke to follow

He reall fell for her

[HappyMe]

7. Heh heh.

You would, of course, be okay with the same joke if the hands were on the other back. -so to speak.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

13. I'll see your tasteless and raise you one...

She should've let him down easy.

[L0oniX]

20. ^^^^this^^^^

[Vashta Nerada]

22. Haha.

I'm a fan of dark humor.

[In_The_Wind]

6. The honeymoon ended too soon for that mismatched couple.

[WCLinolVir]

8. Well we try not to argue and cook.

[jberryhill]

9. Almost happened to Gov. Sanford on the Appalachian trail

[The Straight Story]

10. Ban cliffs in parks!

If people did not have the means to hurt others then they would never hurt anyone (the problem is obviously not the people, they wouldn't do anything bad ever to anyone if certain things did not exist - objects, like cliffs, make us do things).

This poor man would also been alive if he had never been married.

[frylock]

19. your schtick has reached larry the cable guy level

[The Straight Story]

23. Just trying to keep people safe from themselves, an important principle to freedom

If you are dead, you have no freedoms. Why do we let people do dangerous things? Ban smoking, guns, hiking in rough areas, sky diving, drinking alcohol, and whatever else could cause harm or insurance rates to go up.

We need to be consistent in applying our values/religious beliefs to the lives of others. We don't let adults hang out together to drink and smoke anymore because we know they won't make the choices we want if they have the ability to choose.

I would never go hiking near a cliff, or skydiving, so I don't think others should be able to have that choice either.

And guns...look at all those 50 million people with them. They hunt, skeet shoot, shoot for sport, etc - I don't own a gun, so I am living proof no one needs that choice.

Freedom does not mean free to make choices, it means having the ability to freely stop people from doing things I don't like that I think could harm others.

[frylock]

24. larry the cable guy level

[vanlassie]

42. Do you think you could explain that a but more slowly for me?

I'm not sure I got it yet. Talk to me like I'm a six year old. Oh. Wait...

[madinmaryland]

48. I believe we need to protect cliffs (Not Claven) from people, just like we need to protect guns

from "responsible" gun owners.

Don't forget that we also need to protect cigarettes from "responsible" cigarette smokers. Imagine how many cigarettes could be saved from all of those savage beasts determined to burn them.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. The ultimate date test for me was canoeing down the Econlockhatchee River.

I did it twice with a boyfriend and was sure I didn't want to spend a lifetime with him afterwards. There was no communication, he insisted he couldn't paddle because he had to rudder as I did all the work, and he still kept steering us into large spiders that had webs that stretched across the narrow parts of the "river."

We went down in dry season and again in rainy season. Different kind of experiences, but both were equally exasperating.

[whopis01]

12. That story is so much better when you known what the Econ is like...

It is not the most enjoyable "river" to paddle down on any occasion, let alone with someone being a dumbass!

[FarCenter]

16. Massive gator captured along the Econlockhatchee River in Seminole Co.

The alligator is 13-feet long and weighs 7-hundred-37 pounds.

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/jason-forgey-alligator-catch-massive-gator-captured-along-the-econlockhatchee-river-in-seminole-co

[Baitball Blogger]

29. That gator had one big ole head.

I was hesitant to take my children on canoe trips because a ten or eleven year old boy had been taken down by a gator around that time. I was in the Tampa area when this happened.

[Nay]

17. Yeah, you got an exact look at what life would be with this guy! You're lucky!

Lots of guys (and women) hide their bad sides much better than this. Usually, once you're in the trap, that's when their more unlovely sides show.

[Baitball Blogger]

30. I think these tests would make a great theme for a reality show.

[Vinnie From Indy]

14. At the Grand Canyon, when someone falls off a cliff and dies

the spouse is ALWAYS looked at as a suspect. I guess tossing one's spouse off of cliffs is more common than you would think.

[TeamPooka]

15. she had to adjust her plan after he cancelled their honeymoon cruise. nt

[duffyduff]

18. The Grand Canyon divorce

One of the most notorious murder cases ever was that of Robert Spangler, a black widower who decided to kill one of his wives in a unique manner:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/weird/robert_spangler/1_index.html


Snip:

On Easter Sunday, April 11, 1993 a disheveled but strangely calm Bob Spangler showed up at the Back Country ranger station, saying that his wife had taken a tragic fall. She was dead 160 feet below the Redwall at Horseshoe Mesa, where they had stopped for a photo. He set up his camera to take a photograph of them both, and when he turned back around, she had vanished. He had heard nothing.

When he saw her broken body lying motionless beneath him, he scrambled down, found her dead, washed the blood from her face with his handkerchief, covered her with a tarp, grabbed her pack and headed back up to report the tragedy.

The rangers snickered about "Divorce by Grand Canyon," but there was no evidence of foul play, despite the fact that the place she fell was probably the only place on their hiking route that would have resulted in a fatal fall. And the fact that he never heard her cry out when she went over was an odd detail they couldn't quite forget.

He's dead now, thank God.

[Orrex]

21. Should we also make jokes when husbands murder their wives?

I'm trying keep up with DU's current sensibilities re: domestic abuse and murder.

[trumad]

26. Awww DU--- On 24x7

Never ever---and I mean ever break away from the angst that is this world. Not even for a minute.

You will be called on it by those who relish the angst.

[duffyduff]

40. People did with Robert Spangler. n/t

[Orrex]

49. I wasn't on DU in 1979, so I guess I missed all of those jokes.

[Zorra]

25. That's just so deranged. If I ever came anywhere close to feeling violent toward someone

I lived with I'd be

[tavalon]

27. I still go day hiking with my soon to be ex, as long as our kid is along

When we got trapped overnight with 70 other hikers because of a road wash out, I found out he hadn't told his girlfriend I had come along. I laughed. Some things never change.

I have gotten enraged with that man many times in the last year, but never would I push him or anyone off of a cliff. I have a cut off switch that I hope most people do around such things. No matter how angry I get at him or anyone else, killing is never on the table.

[mnhtnbb]

28. If my hubby had taken me on a hiking trip for our honeymoon...well

let's just say I might have had second thoughts, too!

I do not approve of her violence...but I do have to admit some of
the dark humor here is pretty funny.

[GeorgeGist]

31. and why you live in Florida.

[trumad]

32. snarf...

[hrmjustin]

33. May he rest in peace. And the jokes in the responses are tasteless.

[trumad]

34. Yawn

[hrmjustin]

36. You think it is funny to make fun of the daeth of a person?

[trumad]

38. I love dark humor...

got a problem with that...

[hrmjustin]

39. Like what you want. I think it is tasteless and I have the right to my opinion.

Have a good night.

[KittyWampus]

35. Don't they allow divorce in Montana? That seems kind of harsh. And irreversible.

[struggle4progress]

37. They had a rather quick falling out, though I suppose for some couples there could be

less commitment at the beginning of the trail than might be expected:

An acquaintance once told me of a wedding, where the night before the ceremony the acquaintance found one of the soon-to-be-wedded engaged in sex with one of the attending friends of the other soon-to-be-wedded -- and feeling no particular desire to discover more about the situation, simply retreated back to the company of other members of the party, so that the wedding occurred the next day without any notice of these unusual(?) dynamics

[duffyduff]

41. "They had a rather quick falling out"

Was the pun intended?

[WinkyDink]

45. Nicky Hilton beat Elizabeth Taylor on their honeymoon cruise. Divorce quickly followed disembarking.

[DCBob]

43. Its quite possible she never intended to seriously hurt her new husband..

in a moment of anger, she simply pushed him away.. if there wasn't a cliff there no harm done.

[WinkyDink]

44. Bwahahaha! Thank you, attorney for the defense!

[DCBob]

46. well, yeah I suspect that will be the defense.

regardless if its true or not.

[WinkyDink]

47. I tell my husband not to get too close to the cellar steps. ;-)