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David__77

(23,402 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:34 PM Sep 2013

Sen. Markey opposes Syria resolution

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts says he opposes the resolution that would allow President Barack Obama to order military strikes against Syria.

Markey, who replaced Secretary of State John Kerry, said in a statement Tuesday that the measure is too broad and the impact of any military action too uncertain. He said diplomatic measures should be given a chance to work.

Markey is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Last week, he voted present when the panel narrowly passed the resolution authorizing limited military strikes.

He said he has read the intelligence reports and has no doubt that the Syrian government is responsible for last month's chemical weapons attack. However, he said military strikes could undermine U.S. efforts in the Mideast.

http://www.necn.com/09/10/13/Sen-Markey-opposes-Syria-resolution/landing_politics.html?blockID=851979&feedID=4212

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Sen. Markey opposes Syria resolution (Original Post) David__77 Sep 2013 OP
That's pretty significant eissa Sep 2013 #1
There's still a danger of another, different war resolution. David__77 Sep 2013 #3
Yep. While it's great that Obama blinked kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #5
That's right, and we need to prevent that scenario from being repeated. David__77 Sep 2013 #6
I love Markey but this is a day late & a dollar short. Little Star Sep 2013 #2
Good news, MA has two good Senators now! Coyotl Sep 2013 #4
Better late than never, I suppose. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2013 #7

eissa

(4,238 posts)
1. That's pretty significant
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:37 PM
Sep 2013

A reliable Democrat, and Kerry's friend, who serves on the Foreign Relations Committee. Cue the fat lady.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
3. There's still a danger of another, different war resolution.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:42 PM
Sep 2013

Now they are trying to get another one passed that authorizes war in the event of failure of diplomatic options. It's critical to defeat that as well, because congress should retain the right to review whether or not it's in the US interest to intervene.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
5. Yep. While it's great that Obama blinked
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:53 PM
Sep 2013

even his retreat here requires a US commitment to ENFORCING some basically unenforceable agreement on WMDs.

We all remember what happened with WMDs in Iraq, yes?

Us: "Oh! You haven't destroyed them all! We are going to ratchet up sanctions, we're not gonna let you sell oil, we are going to bomb your palaces!"

Them: "but we did destroy all of the ones we had, we destroyed them as fast as we could. We just didn't keep records on it all like you say now you must see to be satisfied"

Us: OH NO! YOU STILL HAVE FORBIDDEN WEAPONS! FOUL! WE'RE GONNA KILL YOU ALL UNLESS YOU HAND OVER ALL THE WEAPONS WE SAY YOU HAVE! WARRR! WAAAARR!!

It was a sickening soap opera for 12 years, which finally broke out into a full on nightmare of epic slaughter that continues to this day.

If someone should be hauled up on genocide charges, if somebody needs to be placed under international supervision, it should be the leaders of the United States. We killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq, before the 2003 war even began.

Now they're talking about creating THE SAME SET UP WITH SYRIA with which they strangled Iraq for 12 years and which eventually was used as a legal pretext to start the war. What happens when some asshole in the House or Senate starts braying that Syria isn't IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH ITS OBLIGATIONS!!!11! ? Remember how impossible it is to prove a negative? People who wanted to put the brakes on a slide to war ran into a wall of unreason - and likely will again. Warmongers said Saddam's weapons could be here, the weapons could be there. The weapons were constantly on the move probably, they said. Or they were lurking in unknown tunnel complexes, that we knew must exist since we didn't know where the weapons were. They were disguised - camouflaged as ice cream trucks, puppet theaters and dog parks. The fact that the UN inspectors could not find them anywhere was not permitted to stand as "evidence of their absence."

The chaos in Syria means that even the government likely does not know where all of its assets including chemical weapons are. How much less likely is it that the UN can find them and act as custodian in the middle of a hot civil war. How much less likely is that the remorseless blowhards of US politics will be satisfied with the proposed arrangement when they can make hay attacking the administration for "letting Assad keep most of his WMDs!" It doesn't have to be true for them to allege it. There doesn't really need to be a scintilla of evidence for them to try to use this as a bludgeon. Rhetorical attack follows attack, and next thing you know, maybe eight years later, you're bombing Syria or sending in the Marines to "go get those WMDs!"

David__77

(23,402 posts)
6. That's right, and we need to prevent that scenario from being repeated.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:02 PM
Sep 2013

Having any kind of workable process is going to require that the US TRUST Syria's government. There is no other way.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Good news, MA has two good Senators now!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:46 PM
Sep 2013

But Kerry is SoS, not good news any more. He needs to be canned after this.

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