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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:41 PM Sep 2013

BREAKING: Syria ready to join Chemical Convtn/Putin: Chem handover works only if US calls off strike

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BREAKING: #Syria ready to join Chemical Weapons Convention -
FM http://on.rt.com/0yh5ju


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URGENT: We are ready to sign Chemical Weapons Convention - Syrian FM http://on.rt.com/co6hii






Published on Sep 10, 2013

Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Syria's chemical arms handover will only work if the US and its allies renounce the use of force against Damascus - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/2cbbe5


Putin to RT: Syria chem arms handover will work only if US calls off strike
Published time: September 10, 2013 17:00


Speaking exclusively to RT, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Syria’s chemical arms handover will only work if the US and its allies renounce the use of force against Damascus.

"Certainly, this is all reasonable, it will function and will work out, only if the US and those who support it on this issue pledge to renounce the use of force, because it is difficult to make any country – Syria or any other country in the world – to unilaterally disarm if there is military action against it under consideration," President Putin told exclusively to RT on Tuesday.

Putin said the disarmament of Syria’s chemical weapons had been extensively discussed by experts and politicians.

The Russian president said that he and President Barack Obama had “indeed discussed” such a possibility on the sidelines of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg last week.

It was agreed, Putin said, “to instruct Secretary of State (John Kerry) and Foreign Minister (Sergey Lavrov) to get in touch” and “try to move this idea forward.”

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Despite voicing “some serious skepticism,” Western countries supported the move, stressing the importance of Assad fulfilling the agreement and surrendering the weapons stockpiles.

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In response to Russia’s proposal, Obama said he was willing to “absolutely” put on pause a military strike on Syria if Assad accepts the offer.

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http://rt.com/news/putin-syria-chemical-weapons-669/


The hawks are having a fit over the "absolutely" part right now. Stand firm Mr President.

UPDATE:

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MORE: Syria pledged to open its storage sites & provide full disclosure of its stocks immediately http://on.rt.com/co6hii
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David__77

(23,402 posts)
1. A hand is extended in peace...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:43 PM
Sep 2013

Will it be grasped?

Russia is being clear that Chapter 7 and military ultimatums are not going to be acceptable.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. Exactly. That's when Putin came back waying they had to call it OFF
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:52 PM
Sep 2013

Here's the sequence

Tuesday, September 10

15:32 GMT: With regards to the size of a US strike on Syria, Sec. Kerry told lawmakers in the House that the White House wants a limited strike that would pale in comparison to other recent military operations. "It's not Iraq, it’s not Iran, it’s not a years’ war,” he said.

“I have said that this will be meaningful, it will be serious, the Assad regime will feel it,” Kerry said, “…but compared to Iraq, Kosovo, Libya—it’s small. It is not any of those things.”



16:45 GMT: Moscow will propose a draft statement by the chairman of the UN Security Council, supporting the initiative to transfer Syria’s chemical weapons to international control, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

The issue was discussed during a phone conversation between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his French counterpart, Laurent Fabius.

“(Lavrov) said that Russia, on its part, is submitting a draft statement for the UN Security Council’s chairman, welcoming the… initiative and calling on the UN Secretary General, the general director of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, and all the interested parties to make efforts to facilitate the implementation of this proposal,” the ministry’s statement said.

During the call, Lavrov said described as “unacceptable” a French proposal to adopt a Security Council resolution blaming President Assad’s government for the chemical weapons attack.


17:00 GMT: Putin to RT: Syria chem arms handover will work only if US calls off strike



17:15 GMT: Moscow has called an emergency closed-door meeting at the UN Security Council to discuss its chemical weapon removal plan. The round-table will begin at 8 p.m. GMT.



17:20 GMT: Barack Obama and Francois Hollande have refused to rule out the possibility of a military strike against Syria, following a telephone conversation.

"The heads of state highlighted their preference for a diplomatic solution but they also underlined the importance of keeping all options open," said a statement from Hollande's press office.


All items, (except 'Putin to RT:Syria chem arms handover will work only if US calls off strike' which is under Breaking News) here http://rt.com/news/syria-crisis-live-updates-047/


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MORE: Putin calls for diplomatic push to put Syrian chemical weapons beyond use http://on.rt.com/2cbbe5




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DETAILS: Hope Syria destroys chemical arms and joins intl treaty – Putin speaking to RT http://on.rt.com/2cbbe5



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Putin: #Syria chemical arms handover will work only if US calls off strike (Youtube video in OP)



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BREAKING: #Syria ready to join Chemical Weapons Convention - FM http://on.rt.com/0yh5ju



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URGENT: We are ready to sign Chemical Weapons Convention - Syrian FM http://on.rt.com/co6hii



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DETAILS: Syria will sign up to Chemical Weapons Convention, following Russia’s proposal http://on.rt.com/co6hii


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Autumn

(45,084 posts)
3. Obama and Putin are working this out. Let the hawks throw a fit.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:44 PM
Sep 2013

Hopefully this will pull out their tail feathers and clip their wings.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. +10000000000000000000000
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:56 PM
Sep 2013

My main concern is that our Presidents are captive of the MIC who manage a system non-independently and Obama is bucking against 14 years of preparation for a Syria attack.

This was never about chemical weapons.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
8. Agree. More and more reasons keep being leaked why US wants war with Syria.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:16 PM
Sep 2013

It appears an attack has been planned for years. I believe there are many stakeholders who are invested in the US attacking Syria whether they have chemical weapons or not.




Catherina

(35,568 posts)
6. Syrian FM: We are ready to sign Chemical Weapons Convention. Intend to give up chemical weapons
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:12 PM
Sep 2013

Syrian FM: We are ready to sign Chemical Weapons Convention

Published time: September 10, 2013 17:36


Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem (Reuters / Amr Dalsh)


Syria said it would sign the Chemical Weapons Convention, following Russia’s proposal that it hands over its chemical weapons to international supervisors. Damascus pledged to open its storage sites and provide full disclosure of its stocks immediately.

“We fully support Russia’s initiative concerning chemical weapons in Syria, and we are ready to cooperate. As a part of the plan, we intend to join the Chemical Weapons Convention,” Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said in an interview with Lebanon-based Al-Maydeen TV.

“We are ready to fulfill our obligations in compliance with this treaty, including through the provision of information about our chemical weapons. We will open our storage sites, and cease production. We are ready to open these facilities to Russia, other countries and the United Nations.”

He added: “We intend to give up chemical weapons altogether.”

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

http://rt.com/news/syria-join-chemical-weapons-convention-675/

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
9. calling off strike
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:17 PM
Sep 2013

. . . that SHOULD mean no congressional resolution giving him permission to strike.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
10. Yes and some sort of an agreement not to amp things up again as soon as they're rid of them
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:47 PM
Sep 2013

We should also be forced to stop funding violating international law and arming rebels all over the Middle East.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
11. Obama wants Congress to delay Syria vote
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:07 PM
Sep 2013

Obama spoke to his French and British counterparts on Tuesday morning | AP Photo

By JENNIFER EPSTEIN and MANU RAJU | 9/10/13 11:06 AM EDT Updated: 9/10/13 2:58 PM EDT

President Barack Obama said Tuesday he wants Congress to delay its efforts to vote on authorizing the use of force in response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons until the round of diplomatic efforts that began this week has a chance to play out.

Obama’s comments came at lunch meetings with senators, which followed the administration’s commitment to engage in talks at the United Nations, and as Syria and Russia quickly responded to the action at the UN with their own statements and requests.

“We’re going to continue to work moving forward on this but keeping pronounced — and I pronounce it now — that the credible threat of our doing something about this attack is going to remain,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev) said after the president’s 75-minute meeting with Senate Democrats. Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) added that a Senate vote on the use of force would be delayed until next week, at the earliest.

Efforts to reach an agreement at the UN began Tuesday, as France proposed a Security Council resolution that Russia quickly dismissed as “unacceptable,” before Russian President Vladimir Putin called on Obama to renounce the use of force.

“Certainly, this is all reasonable, it will function and will work out, only if the U.S. and those who support it on this issue pledge to renounce the use of force, because it is difficult to make any country — Syria or any other country in the world — to unilaterally disarm if there is military action against it under consideration,” Putin said Tuesday, according to Russia Today.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/obama-syria-chemical-weapons-proposal-96547.html



STFU Reid. You're one of the problems.

Secretary of State John Kerry told the House Armed Services Committee on Tuesday that while a diplomatic resolution is “ideal,” it won’t indefinitely stall military action. “This cannot be a process of delay,” he said. “This cannot be a process of avoidance.”


And you too Kerry. STFU for a while.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
12. UN Security Council closed-door meeting called by Russia will not proceed
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:15 PM
Sep 2013

19:03 GMT: UN Security Council closed-door meeting called by Russia has been postponed, according to the Council's current president Australia's Ambassador to the UN, Gary Quinlan, ITAR-TASS reports.


Gary Quinlan ?@AustraliaUN (UN Security Council for 2013-14)

Following withdrawal of the request for consultations, Security Council meeting scheduled for 4pm will not proceed #OzPrez #UNSC
https://twitter.com/AustraliaUN/statuses/377501618620862464



Tuesday, September 10

19:03 GMT: UN Security Council closed-door meeting called by Russia has been postponed, according to the Council's current president Australia's Ambassador to the UN, Gary Quinlan, ITAR-TASS reports.

18:45 GMT: President Obama has reportedly called on the US Senate to postpone the vote on possible military actions in Syria until the diplomatic solution is discussed, according Politico newspaper which cited a source from the closed-door meeting.

18:43 GMT: John Kerry said that any Syria weapons deal must be struck in a binding UN Security Council resolution.

17:20 GMT: Barack Obama and Francois Hollande have refused to rule out the possibility of a military strike against Syria, following a telephone conversation.

"The heads of state highlighted their preference for a diplomatic solution but they also underlined the importance of keeping all options open," said a statement from Hollande's press office.

17:15 GMT: Moscow has called an emergency closed-door consultations at the UN Security Council to discuss its chemical weapon removal plan. The round-table is expected to begin at 8 pm GMT Tuesday.

16:45 GMT: Moscow will propose a draft statement by the chairman of the UN Security Council, supporting the initiative to transfer Syria’s chemical weapons to international control, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

The issue was discussed during a phone conversation between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his French counterpart, Laurent Fabius.

“[Lavrov] said that Russia, on its part, is submitting a draft statement for the UN Security Council’s chairman, welcoming the… initiative and calling on the UN Secretary General, the general director of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, and all the interested parties to make efforts to facilitate the implementation of this proposal,” the ministry’s statement said.

During the call, Lavrov said described as “unacceptable” a French proposal to adopt a Security Council resolution blaming President Assad’s government for the chemical weapons attack.

http://rt.com/news/syria-crisis-live-updates-047/


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