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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:47 PM Sep 2013

Historians Give Barack Obama a B-

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"HNN recently asked 203 American historians to grade Barack Obama's presidency on an A-F scale.

The results are in: President Barack Obama gets a B-.

Historians graded the president on sixteen different metrics selected by HNN staff. Overall, historians were remarkably consistent in their judgment: Barack Obama was a promising presidential candidate and possesses sterling personal leadership qualities, but his administration has merely been adequate in delivering results. The most highly-praised achievement of President Obama's first term, the Affordable Care Act, was acknowledged in comments by many participants, but nevertheless many expressed disappointment that it did not go far enough.

Participants were also increasingly concerned about the administration's lack of transparency and its prosecution of Bradley Manning (most of the data was assembled before the Edward Snowden story broke).

Many historians were also disillusioned by the partisan gridlock in Washington, although they tend to place the blame largely on congressional Republicans.

Just about the only aspect of Barack Obama's presidency which has received universal praise from historians has been the president's Supreme Court appointments. Both Elena Kagan and especially Sonia Sotomayor are highly respected by academics."

- See more at: http://hnn.us/article/153229#sthash.j5eVkOsU.dpuf

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Historians Give Barack Obama a B- (Original Post) Scurrilous Sep 2013 OP
Whad W get in a grade? benld74 Sep 2013 #1
What grade did you get in typing? Bucky Sep 2013 #9
Jesus Christ, the man is STILL president...not even in his first full year of the second term! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #2
Absolutely. AFTER he's done, people will speak freely about race Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #17
His only "C" is "relations with Congress" BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #3
Isn't this a bit early? vdogg Sep 2013 #4
Think of it as a progress report Bucky Sep 2013 #12
Racists who refuse to see greatness. jsr Sep 2013 #5
don't forget libertarian paulites, and flat out haters haters haters lol nt msongs Sep 2013 #6
The "cool" kids on DU give him an F scheming daemons Sep 2013 #7
Flawed metaphor Bucky Sep 2013 #11
LOL Scurrilous Sep 2013 #13
I am a historian by training and my assestment BEFORE the syrian debacle was a B nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #19
I agree. He was a decent president, but we needed a fierce progressive to ride the mood of the time. Dash87 Sep 2013 #8
Was? Impatient, are we? Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #16
So far. Should be "is" but you know what I mean. Dash87 Sep 2013 #20
That seems about right to me. Of course I'm not trying to be objective. Bucky Sep 2013 #10
Key word is history. Still a couple of years to go Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #14
Aren't you supposed to grade work once it's complete? snooper2 Sep 2013 #15
Nah, he's "adequate" cause all the 300 filibusters in the senate Obama REALLY wanted them... uponit7771 Sep 2013 #22
If you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all... n/t duffyduff Sep 2013 #18
"...merely been adequate..." Give over 300 filibusters "adequate" is their judgement!? BULLSHIT uponit7771 Sep 2013 #21
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
2. Jesus Christ, the man is STILL president...not even in his first full year of the second term!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:52 PM
Sep 2013

Fuck, I hate these people!!

The Black Tax in full effect.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
17. Absolutely. AFTER he's done, people will speak freely about race
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:13 PM
Sep 2013

And how it has played in unprecedented insults and indignities toward our president.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
4. Isn't this a bit early?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:53 PM
Sep 2013

Term isn't even over yet, and as with any presidency, it takes many years after they have left office to determine the lasting effects of their policies. We have only just now started to cough up that hairball known as the "Bush Doctrine".

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
12. Think of it as a progress report
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:08 PM
Sep 2013

It's not like anyone's going to quit assessing his performance after this.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
11. Flawed metaphor
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:07 PM
Sep 2013

The kids don't give grades; the teachers do.

Anyway, it seems silly to insult everyone who disagrees with you as "the 'cool' kids."

This would be a better forum if we didn't go about doubting the sincerity of each other's analysis of current events just because we come to different conclusions.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. I am a historian by training and my assestment BEFORE the syrian debacle was a B
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:18 PM
Sep 2013

now it is a C+

And it has potential to go down, yet.

And no I am not a cool kid, but I have opened a child wing at the ignore list, it was swings and all. I think you are a good candidate for that. Why? You are not interested in discussion, just on berating people.

So I give you an F. Goodbye.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
8. I agree. He was a decent president, but we needed a fierce progressive to ride the mood of the time.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:01 PM
Sep 2013

People wanted swift change. They wanted a more social-minded and less aggressive country. Obama was a decent president, but nowhere near FDR.

People wanted a progressive hero to reign in congress, stand up with intense fire to the Neo-Cons and corporate-types, and make us love our country again. Obama hasn't done this, imo.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
20. So far. Should be "is" but you know what I mean.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:19 PM
Sep 2013

Also "was" in the sense that I doubt Obama is going to change in his core beliefs or demeanor.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
14. Key word is history. Still a couple of years to go
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:10 PM
Sep 2013

And this is after the nadir of Bush exit with war and economic collapse.

He deserves far more time to "make the grade".

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
22. Nah, he's "adequate" cause all the 300 filibusters in the senate Obama REALLY wanted them...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:21 PM
Sep 2013

...cause these historians and all other wingers say such...

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
21. "...merely been adequate..." Give over 300 filibusters "adequate" is their judgement!? BULLSHIT
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:20 PM
Sep 2013

Sounds like they picked all the FAUX news Historians who want to proffer the false position that Obama is a dictator so he can get anything he wants done and if he doesn't its cause he didn't want to.

Stupid shit

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