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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:04 PM Sep 2013

FL man pleads guilty to tricking pregnant ex-girlfriend into taking pill, causing miscarriage

FL man pleads guilty to tricking pregnant ex-girlfriend into taking pill, causing miscarriage. Faces 15yrs prison

TAMPA, Fla. (KABC) -- A Florida man has pleaded guilty to tricking his pregnant ex-girlfriend into taking an abortion pill that caused her to have a miscarriage.

Remee Jo Lee says John Andrew Welden begged her not to have a baby after she became pregnant.

Lee, her attorneys and federal prosecutors say Welden forged a signature of his father, who is an obstetrician, on a prescription for Cytotec and relabeled a pill bottle as "amoxicillin." Cytotec is used to induce labor.

Welden then told Lee that his father said she had a bacterial infection and needed to take the mislabeled amoxicillin.

Lee, who was about six or seven weeks pregnant, experienced severe cramps and pain and went to the hospital. She miscarried shortly thereafter.

"Nothing is ever going to bring back what was taken from her, no matter what the result, whether this had gone to trial or not," said Todd Foster, a defense attorney in the case.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=9243044

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FL man pleads guilty to tricking pregnant ex-girlfriend into taking pill, causing miscarriage (Original Post) The Straight Story Sep 2013 OP
Only 15 years for murder ... yeah. In_The_Wind Sep 2013 #1
He's NOT charged with murder JimDandy Sep 2013 #2
Oh, my mistake. In_The_Wind Sep 2013 #3
No problem. So very sick what he did. JimDandy Sep 2013 #4
Which shouldn't be much joeglow3 Sep 2013 #5
15 years is the max and he deserves that. JimDandy Sep 2013 #7
The Tylenol tampering killed seven people REP Sep 2013 #8
I understand and mostly agree JimDandy Sep 2013 #9
Intentionally inducing an unwanted miscarriage is "not terrible"? Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #15
The crimes he "committed" were not terrible joeglow3 Sep 2013 #17
The sad part is ... she trusted and loved him In_The_Wind Sep 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author JimDandy Sep 2013 #10
You insist on using anti-choice terms. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #12
She didn't make the choice. She should have the right not have it taken from her. In_The_Wind Sep 2013 #16
Didn't look like a mistake to me. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #13
He assaulted her lakercub Sep 2013 #11
I hope he gets the max. Despite some of the posts here, this *was* a terrible crime. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #14
Meanwhile, murderers and rapists get a fraction of the time joeglow3 Sep 2013 #18

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
2. He's NOT charged with murder
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:36 PM
Sep 2013

because it's not murder, although it is heartbreaking.

He's charged with mail fraud and tampering with a consumer product.

Legally a six week-old fetus is still not considered a person, otherwise abortions then would be illegal.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
7. 15 years is the max and he deserves that.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:05 PM
Sep 2013

The tampering involved fraud, lying and making someone physically sick for the immoral purpose of illegally inducing abortion.

To me it is worse than the Tylenol tampering and cases in which prison/mental hospital doctors induced abortions in patients without their consent, because he personally benefited from his illegal actions and in a very sick way.

REP

(21,691 posts)
8. The Tylenol tampering killed seven people
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:15 PM
Sep 2013

I think that was actually worse; cyanide poisoning is a very painful death. This is not to minimize the dangers of playing doctor and giving power medicine to a person who doesn't need or want it and not knowing if it is even safe for her to take, or the chickenshit betrayal - everything he did to her was repellent and vile, and I hope he does every day of those 15 years for what he did to her. But it is not the same as killing 7 strangers at random in a horrible way and terrifying a nation.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
9. I understand and mostly agree
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:32 PM
Sep 2013

because as you said the Tylenol tampering resulted in many deaths and terrorized everyone, but this still seems more heinous because his tampering was targeted at not a stranger, but someone who trusted and loved him and loved the potential life he snuffed out simply for financial reasons. Not very logical of me, I know.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
17. The crimes he "committed" were not terrible
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 10:21 AM
Sep 2013

He made someone sick. He did not kill or rape someone. He gave them a drug without them knowing and they got sick. A crime? Yes. Should he do time? Sure. Is it worse than crimes like murder and rape where people do much less than 15 years? Hell no.

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lakercub

(659 posts)
11. He assaulted her
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:06 PM
Sep 2013

and deserves everything he gets for that.

However, I find this story weird. Specifically, who takes an antibiotic for an infection when they were never told by a doctor that there was an infection. Seriously, I love my wife but if she came home and told me I have an infection and need to take pills she had handy I'm pretty sure some flags would go up. It's possible she is monstrously naive (or just remarkably stupid) but the idea of finding out one has a medical condition that requires medication from anyone but a health professional seems pretty tough to swallow. Even if the guys father is the doctor, it's hard to believe she would just take medication without hearing from the doctor himself.

It's possible the story is 100 percent true as written, but if it is, then she's a complete idiot. Which doesn't change the fact that the boyfriend is loathsome and committed assault.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
14. I hope he gets the max. Despite some of the posts here, this *was* a terrible crime.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:24 PM
Sep 2013

And it is possible to believe this while still being pro-choice.

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