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1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:52 PM Sep 2013

DC shooter identified:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24120333

The deceased gunman in the shooting at a naval installation in Washington DC has been identified as Aaron Alexis, unnamed officials have told US media.

At least 12 people were killed and four wounded in the attack at Washington Navy Yard in the US capital.

Alexis was apparently killed at the scene of the rampage, which began at around 8:20 local time (12:20 GMT).
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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Was a government civilian contractor. Had a prior arrest.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:54 PM
Sep 2013

WASHINGTON — Washington, D.C., police say they are no longer looking for one of two “potential” suspects in the mass shooting at the Washington Navy Yard this morning, indicating that the 11 victims of the attack were all killed by a single shooter.

Federal officials have identified the shooter as Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old government civilian contractor from Fort Worth, Texas, who was new to the Washington, D.C., area, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation. He may have used the identification badge of another person to gain access to the base.

Federal officials say Alexis was arrested in Fort Worth Sept 5, 2010 for discharging a weapon. The Tarrant County District Attorney did not prosecute.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-washington-navy-yard-shootings-20130916,0,6137381.story
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. I saw that. No conviction.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

I wonder why.

Federal officials say Alexis was arrested in Fort Worth Sept 5, 2010 for discharging a weapon. The Tarrant County District Attorney did not prosecute.


cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
6. It's Texas
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:58 PM
Sep 2013

The charge would have been firing a gun within city limits... firing was said to be accidental. Crime miht have required intent.

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rdharma

(6,057 posts)
11. Why no conviction?
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:08 PM
Sep 2013

You're kidding. Right? You really don't know the answer?

Here's a clue........

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
17. Totally wrong. I found the arrest report.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:43 PM
Sep 2013

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023678500

It was an accidental discharge.

I imagine that in some jurisdictions it could have been charged, and it's less likely to be charged in Texas, but the real reason is that accidental discharges are not seen as crimes.

I think they should be charges as infractions of the law, and fines attached, and MANDATORY gun safety classes required in order to have the person's firearm(s) returned.

The person must surrender all firearms.

Right?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
18. No. Not wrong!
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:18 PM
Sep 2013

As you said it yourself.... "I imagine that in some jurisdictions it could have been charged, and it's less likely to be charged in Texas."

RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT is a CRIME consisting of acts that create a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. The accused person isn't required to intend the resulting or potential harm, but must have acted in a way that showed a disregard for the foreseeable consequences of the actions.

I agree with you on your last points..... the person should be charged and weapons impounded.

But we're talking about Travis County (weehaaaw!) Texas.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
20. Yea but it's not like Perry did something in particular. Your point about Texas is probably true.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:24 PM
Sep 2013

And of course it's not only Texas but also other places.

I would guess that a study would show that out of all accidental discharges investigated by police, fewer than 50% are charged.

But that's just a guess.

But what a great opportunity to pass a few laws and ordinances that gun control activists and 2A supporters can agree upon, right?

Confiscation of arms, loss of eligibility for CCW, and, I would argue, mandatory safety training (like they do with DUI convictions).

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
21. I would guess when there is property damage and a person almost killed, charges are likely ......
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:35 PM
Sep 2013

....... but I was in law enforcement........ so what the heck do I know?

And then again .......we're talking about (weehaaw!) Texas.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
19. I'd say so too!
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:21 PM
Sep 2013

"In Texas, a person is said to have committed the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. The word "reckless" indicates a type of conduct that demonstrates a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others as a result of the act or omission involved."

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
8. Arrest report
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:04 PM
Sep 2013



http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Aaron-Alexis-Fort-Worth-Arrest-Report-223953911.html

SUMMARY NARRATIVE

On Saturday 09-04-10 at approximately 1849 hrs I, Officer M Medders 3835 working W237, was dispatched to an apt complex, Orion at Oak Hill Apts, at 2450 Oak Hill Rd in reference to a shots fired call. The details of the call stated "CP STS SHE HEARD A 'POP' & SAW SMOKE & DUST; NOW SEES THAT THERE IS A HOLE IN HER FLOOR & ANOTHER IN HER CEILING; BELIEVES SOMEONE JUST SHOT INTO HER APT; DID NOT SEE ANYTHING OR ANYONE; CP HAS MOVED AWAY FROM AREA WHERE HOLES ARE; CONTACT CP". Upon arrival I met with the witness who was inside her apt and visibly shaken up.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
10. I have a DOD pass to get on most any military base.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:07 PM
Sep 2013

I got it because I sometimes work for a contractor that installs furniture in barracks and offices. It required a background check, fingerprinting, etc. (plus 160 bucks) I was a bit nervous because I have had a couple of minor scrapes with the law, two misdemeanor pot possession charges and a DUI. But, no problem. When you present the encoded badge at the gate, you are waved in.
I don't think those passes are very hard to get.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
12. I am wondering if he came to DC and got a government job for the sole purpose of killing
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:08 PM
Sep 2013

EEEEVVVIIIIIILLLLLLL gubmint workers?

It's a shame that things like this even come to mind. But being a reckless gun owner from TX, I am assuming he is a teabagger until proven otherwise.

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