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By Paul Kane, Rosalind S. Helderman and and David A. Fahrenthold, Saturday, September 28, 11:47
House Republican leaders are expected to propose a new plan to the GOP rank-and-file on Saturday afternoon: make a new gesture of defiance toward President Obamas health-care law, even if it increases the chances of a government shutdown on Monday night.
As the House GOP met for an internal conference Saturday in the Capitol basement, this was the plan leadership was expected to present: amend a Senate-passed bill to keep federal agencies open until November 15, and add a new portion that would delay all elements of the health-care law for a year.
According to a Republican inside the room, leaders are advocating an aggressive approach but trying to put in a few sweeteners to deal with the fallout of when the government shuts down. The package includes a one year delay of all elements of the health law, a permanent repeal of the medical sales device tax that funded portions of the law and a proviso that would assure pay for the military.
Additionally, the GOP has moved the date for federal funding back to Dec. 15.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-republicans-to-propose-one-year-delay-in-obamacare/2013/09/28/1e884de6-2859-11e3-9256-41f018d21b49_story.html?hpid=z1
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He wins.
If Obama makes any deals with them, he loses.
spanone
(135,844 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
zbdent
(35,392 posts)Repugniconvicts were all TAKE and not one bit of give.
Every time he'd give them something, they'd never live up to their word, despite the blatherings of people claiming otherwise.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)depends on WHAT any deal entails.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)In the past we have gotten raw deals with them. It is safe to assume that any future deals would be similarly lopsided.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)There has been NO deal that President Obama has done that I lose sleep over.
What deal do you have a problem with?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He is the worst deal maker in US history.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)The gop and Putin think otherwise. But what would they know ... they were only on the other end of the "worst dealer maker in US history."
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...for little in return. I guess the deals were wonderful....for the GOP.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)progressivism.
In the reality-based world ... the gop has gotten far less than they have given up.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I'm not the one attempting to argue that President Obama is the worst deal maker in US History. That would be you.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He has given up '98% of what Boehner wanted' to extortion threats for almost nothing in return. He is a horrible negotiator. This is because he ascribes to that irrational 'Third way' nonsense where everything has to be "half Democrat, half Republican". He was offering them things they weren't even asking for.
With every deal he made with them their extortion demands become more outrageous and irrational. I think he has finally seen that no matter how hard he tries to impress them by sacrificing the people who put him in office, the GOP will not like him. In fact they hate him.
I think he suffers from a form of Stockholm Syndrome. Stockholm syndrome, a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors (the GOP). Hopefully he is starting to snap out of it with their latest extortion attempt.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)seriously going to use boehner's 98% claim (that he later distanced himself from) to prove that President Obama is a poor negotiator? Really?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)90% of the cuts were things that the GOP has been trying to kill for years, good luck ever getting any of those 'temporary' cuts back. The list goes on and on and on and on.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)so the gop was going to cut the military and leave SS, Medicare, Medicaid and U/C ... right?
But that said ... The sequester was designed to be a poison pill ... no one thought the gop would swallow it. That wasn't the result of bad negotiation; that was the result of unknowable crazy.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Besides his dealing with the GOP, I like him. He is a great president on social justice and social policy and foreign policy. We will just have to agree to disagree on the other thing.
Have a good night!
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)30 days after it was voted on.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251325918
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)one of the biggest problems that President Obama faces ... Democratic representatives that are more than willing to oppose this President just to show their independentness.