Reid incredulously asked, “Is this some kind of subterfuge to close the government?”

[spanone]

yes harry, it is......


Thursday began with optimism that Democrats and Republicans would find a way to pass a spending bill that would avert a partial government shutdown. There was even hope that it would set the stage for an accord on raising the government’s debt limit.

But rancor returned just hours later. On the Senate floor, Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid asked agreement from all senators to finish voting on the spending bill Thursday night, but Utah Sen. Mike Lee objected to having the votes that quickly and asked that they instead be taken Friday morning. He was supported by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, fresh off his 21 hour talk-a-thon against Obamacare.

Reid incredulously asked, “Is this some kind of subterfuge to close the government?”

As a result of these objections, the Senate will now vote Friday on deleting the “defund Obamacare” language from the House-passed spending bill.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/26/20710187-washington-hit-with-whiplash-amidst-shutdown-showdown?lite

[Tx4obama]

1. Btw, That is old news from the 26th. The Senate already voted yesterday on the 27th

But thanks for posting Reid's quote - first time I've seen that one.

[spanone]

9. thanks, i've been so busy it's new news to me.....

[libdem4life]

2. Reid gave him permission to hold a 21-hour, taxpayer paid, campaign speech for president

and C-Span televised it. That's incredulous.

[djean111]

3. My thought exactly.

Cruz us now more popular than ever with his base - no one in the GOP cares what the Dems think about him.
It was, IMO, kinda stupid to give Cruz that time - now the GOP see it did not hurt him, and they certainly are emboldened.

[demwing]

4. His teabag base

but I don't think that's what will propel him to the White House.

Just the opposite, in fact

[libdem4life]

11. I hope to heck you're right and was my first thought, as well. But the stupid they can arouse is

not comforting and is formerly unseen, at least in my decades of political experience.

[Andy823]

15. Sure it rallied his base of idiots

But it also made him look like a "idiot" to people who aren't brain dead, like his base!

[djean111]

17. It does not make him look like an idot to the GOP. That is the only thing that counts here.

Even if his purpose was to score points for 2016 and to give other baggers some campaign bites for 2014, i believe the fact that his poll numbers went up and not down emboldened the House to double and triple down on the demands they are making.
I don't care about his clown attributes for 2016, I care about the much more immediate extortion the GOP is demanding right now.
His base of idiots make him look - for now - like a presidential front runner for the GOP. And the rest of the GOP will follow, for now.
Hopefully some GOP in the house will defect today......have not looked at the news as yet.

But Crux is not stupid, he is just wired differently. Can't say one person must be brilliant because they were editor of the Law Review and then turn around and say someone who did the exact same thing is a dummy. That "dummy" does not see success or failure in the same terms that Dems do. Playing a different kind of chess, and as long as we just complacently laugh, he is getting away with it.

[Posteritatis]

5. It's more superfuge at this point, isn't it? (nt)

[meow2u3]

6. Subterfuge!? It's more like a GOP attempt to overthrow the government

And by the government, I mean representative democracy.

President Obama should issue an EO ordering the Justice Dept. to start criminal investigations on any and all Tea Party ringleaders, especially the paymasters, on charges of seditious conspiracy and inciting insurrection.

[malaise]

10. Doesn't the US Constitution forbid default

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/the-speech-obama-could-give-the-constitution-forbids-default/237977/
<snip>
For this reason, I have ordered that Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner immediately begin issuing binding debt instruments on the world market sufficient to cover all the current obligations of the United States government, even in default of Congressional action to meet those obligations.

I take this action to fulfill the oath I took as president of the United States. The Constitution explicitly requires me, under my duty to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed," to meet and pay all debts of the United States.

This requirement is absolute. It is contained in Section Four of the Fourteenth Amendment, which directs, in no uncertain terms, that "the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

[factsarenotfair]

7. No, they are OPENLY trying to close the government.

I simply do not understand how the Dems in D.C. could not have seen this coming.

[Aerows]

8. You are talking about Harry Reid

He couldn't see that not revising the filibuster rules would end with more obstruction.

[libdem4life]

12. How did he get to that position...he seems unsure and hesitant more than powerful.

[Aerows]

13. I don't think anyone in the Senate

wants to do anything anywhere near the will of the people. See: John Boehner and Harry Reid.

It's Congress gone wrong ... for all the few right people (corporations are people, my friend!)

[libdem4life]

14. Probably, yet to be seen if the Rabid Wing brings down Boehner.

[annabanana]

16. subterfuge my ass. .

That implies that they are, in some way, sneaking around about it...

[RandiFan1290]

18. Oh the drama!