King: 30 to 40 GOP lawmakers refuse to admit legitimacy of Obama’s presidency

[applegrove]

King: 30 to 40 GOP lawmakers refuse to admit legitimacy of Obama’s presidency

by Jonathan Easley at the Hill

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326017-king-30-to-40-gop-lawmakers-refuse-to-admit-legitimacy-of-obamas-presidency

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Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) said Tuesday that there are about 30 to 40 Republicans in Congress who refuse to recognize the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency and are seeking to erase everything that’s happened during his administration.

King made the remarks in a discussion with Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball, after the host asked how many Republicans would like to “erase [Obama’s] record as if he was never here.”

“I’ve had members, they know who they are, they say – ‘I really can’t say with these lips that this man, Barack Obama, was elected president’,” Matthews said. “They choke on that. How many are there in Congress on your side that represent that rejectionist front?”

“I would say there are probably 30 or 40 who are like that,” King responded. “As there were a number of Democrats who felt that way about George W. Bush, and going back to when you and I first met, Republicans who felt that way about Bill Clinton.”


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[C_U_L8R]

1. King needs to name names

Or he's just grandstanding.

[maryellen99]

2. But these stupid repukes need to realize

That PBO was elected legimately. You can't say that about bush.

[Nevernose]

3. The false equivalence between Obama and Bush

The difference between the thirty or forty members who "felt that way" about Bush and those who feel that way about Obama is one of facts. Bush lost his election, without question. Obama clearly won his.

The denial of objective reality is what gets me: there's no negotiating with insane people.

[chervilant]

42. Insanity!

That's exactly what we're witnessing, and exactly what we should be addressing. Can we mail 30-40 strait jackets to DC? Make sure they're all labeled with the appropriate recipient's name?

Oh, I guess I should mention that some of these perniciously racist politicians are edging toward treason. Not that anyone with any oomph will be able to oust them...

[BeyondGeography]

4. Democrats felt that way about Bush because Gore won Florida

False equivalency is the Beltway's favorite pundit parlor game. We are not as miserable and as unfair as the Pugs. Never will be.

[Dawson Leery]

5. +1,000,000,000,000

[Cha]

10. Pre-cisely, BG.. see my post downthread.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. We could have (and should have) made his existence miserable

But we played nice and went back to the process of governing and we all stood squarely behind him after the tragedy of 9/11 and put partisan politics aside to help him "protect" the country against Al-Queda, Bin Laden, and even the WMD madman Saddam Hussein. And for our willingness to look the other way, we got repeatedly kicked in the teeth, called traitors and the Republicans rammed through a good portion of their right-wing dystopian agenda and then scared enough people into voting to (re-)elect Bush (P)resident whose policies caused an economic meltdown just as he and his cabal were leaving office. We treated him- overall- SO much better than the Republicans have treated President Obama. There is simply NO comparison!

[BeyondGeography]

18. W. was a fucking earthquake of fail

Even the Republicans know it. That he was illegitimate at the same time makes his whole presidency into some Jobian Old Testament nightmare. I'm still digesting. But, you're right, even I got behind him for a week or two after 9/11. I remember he actually stood up for American Muslims when they were being harassed a few days after the attack and I praised him to my fellow Democrats and no one said boo. He was such a maladjusted child monster, you knew he would blow it. And he wouldn't give two shits either.

When I see the Tweeties of the world play tit-for-tat, even when the Republicans are basically raising their hands to say, look, we really are the problem, it's just a classic sellout that we really can't afford anymore.

[G_j]

19. a classic sellout

indeed, well put

[Skraxx]

22. And They Also Still Attempted to Work With Him Constructively

[yuiyoshida]

23. It was our dear Supreme Court who

for the first time in history, Null and Voided the American vote, to give the election to Bush.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. +1!

[City Lights]

33. Exactly!

It's disingenuous to pretend they're two sides of the same coin.

[Southside]

6. Finally the truth comes out.

Thank you Democratic Underground for keeping us informed. It's appalling to see 800,000+ working families harassed and stepped on because of political vendettas, tea party fundraising and whatever irrational causes behind this budget and debt ceiling nonsense. It is sickening. Thank you for the post.

P.S. I am so happy that I will have healthcare soon. Goooo progressives!

[applegrove]

7. And welcome to the DU Southside

[NYC_SKP]

9. Welcome to DU, Southside.

Happy to have you here.

[Southside]

16. Thank You, long long time lurker

Thanks for the welcome.
I joined so I could Rec, but when I read commissaries where our troops and their families shop for groceries are shut down, that headstart will go unfunded, cafeteria staff at the Capitol are laid off and my brother cannot take a paid sick day as essential staff, because of birthers and other moronic haters, it makes you shout, thank goodness for Democratic Underground, the unions, the senate and our President are willing to make a stand and say enough is enough.

This is a wonderful place even for moderate progressives (if there is such a term) like myself.

[redstatebluegirl]

26. Welcome Southside!

[gopiscrap]

30. Welcome to DU

[bigwillq]

48. Welcome to DU!

[Cha]

8. So does tweety still think President Obama has met his

match with ted cruz.. as someone reported this morning?

I'm glad Peter King is saying this out loud. Actually PBO was duly elected.. bush.. not so much. 'Course they wouldn't say that shit on corp media.

Thanks applegrove

[book_worm]

11. Of course with Bush there were legit reasons to believe he had not actually been elected

president of USA while Obama won solid popular vote victories in the millions and landslide electoral vote victories both times.

[NightWatcher]

12. Is it a "black" thing?

30-40 adults who are acting like school yard brats and spoiled frat boys who still make racist jokes???

I'd like to think that we'd somehow moved beyond this, but I guess not.

I would like for Obama to dissolve the whole fucking parliament (Congress) and in its place not a single white, christian guy in the bunch.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. Yes. It is indeed a black thing. As Andrew Sullivan told us today in his brilliant article...

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/01/the-nullification-party/

[hootinholler]

28. I would suggest it's not a black thing

but a white sheet thing.

[arcane1]

13. Arcane1 hereby tells Cruz to put it up for a vote. A public vote.

I double-dare you!

[G_j]

17. so are they birthers, think he stole the election,

or just plain think a black man can't be president?

It's tragic how people who wave the constitution like a bible (though they may not have read either) cannot honor
the most basic democratic process of an election. Were not they elected themselves?
Then to top it off, they call themselves patriots. It's beyond hypocritical, it's crazy making! Any sane person trying to hold a conversation with them will, eventually give up, or go crazy..

[leftynyc]

20. Oy Vey

When Peter King is sounding like the voice of reason, we have truly crossed the rubicon.

[mwooldri]

24. Sadly, I agree with you.

I still have a hard time reconciling his support for "terrorists" in the UK and him being the chair of the Homeland Security committee.

That said, on a number of matters he is sounding like a more reasonable person. Statements like "don't shut down the government", and now "I know 30-40 GOP Members of Congress who think that Mr. Obama is not the legitimate president of the USA" gives him some "moderate credibility". I think he has to, because he's in the land of the Blue. If/when the GOP splits, I'm actually now hoping that he doesn't go with the crazies.

[leftynyc]

27. He represents Long Island

which historically is pretty moderate but home to many Rockefeller republicans. Suffolk county is more conservative (as are most counties the further away from NYC you get) but I never considered them batshit crazy. The whole area is becoming more blue and I think he's trying to save his own ass here.

[G_j]

25. Big time

King is a torch mouthed hater, him sounding reasonable is almost beyond comprehension..

[yuiyoshida]

21. They are not Disbelievers... they are

RACIST Jackasses.

[BlueToTheBone]

29. This is what happens when you govern while Black.

These republicans are just animals on two legs.

[heaven05]

31. Let's be perfectly clear

the victory of Barack Obama in the last two elections in Amerika, allowed good old amerikkkan racism it's place, again, in our everyday culture. Don't get me wrong, it NEVER went away. So it's no wonder to me nor amazing to me how color became more of an issue culturally, negatively, with my President's victory at the polls. I venture to say there is more OPEN racism in our culture, now, because of our President's color, not less, as some surmised it might be with a man of color in the white house. Trying to equate Democrats not liking Bush to the current hate of my POTUS and his skin color is smokescreen RW bullshit to cover the shamefully vicious and ugly racism behind the teahadist and conservative movement to delegitimize BO's legacy. Shutdown vs inauguration of ACA, same day. No coincidence. White racism is a scourge that has hindered our real progress as a nation since it's inception and it is still with us at it's virulent worst. Wake up amerika, the future is calling. Oh, never mind.

[noiretextatique]

45. yes!

One of the blessing of Obama's presidency is that no one can deny the existence of racism...and racists in America. Including those in Congress.

[City Lights]

32. Try them for treason!

Pronto!

[ffr]

34. *light* going off.

Now I know what their goal has been all along. I knew they were anti-Obama everything, but I didn't realize the level of hate driving them.

[BobbyBoring]

35. Those who can't recognise an elected President

Have NO FUCKING BUSINESS running for elected office!

[spanone]

37. racist based anarchists.

[ForeignandDomestic]

38. King is not a voice of reason...

There is a Corporatocracy that crosses party lines.. King is just looking out for the brand!

[Mopar151]

44. I beleive that your theory is legitimate

Cruz, Cantor, and the other Deniers* have blown right past the tax cutters and entitlement hawks, and have reached the utter disconnect from reality that is at the heart of Teabagiztan.

*Deniers - the more evident the fact, the more damming the evidence, the more they deny it all.

[Javaman]

40. Obama was elected, george w. moron* was selected. let's be clear about that. nt

[louis-t]

41. I love that King and others are starting to

call teabaggers "Ted Cruze Republicans".

[randr]

43. The traitorous cabal are called

the Koch Roaches. Sucking up the John Bircher propaganda like infants on a tit.

[Blue_In_AK]

46. It's a sad day when Peter King is the voice of "reason."

What have we come to?

[markpkessinger]

47. ^^^THIS!^^^ N/T

[SomethingFishy]

49. +1 that was going to be my reply...

Talk about down the rabbit hole...

[Warren DeMontague]

50. Difference being, Obama and Clinton actually won.

Bush might be able to argue that 2004 was a real victory, but most rational analyses of what happened in 2000, he lost that election.

[Gman]

51. The *BIG* difference between Obama, Clinton and Bush

is Bush was never legally elected president in 2000. And 2004 is very, VERY suspect too. Obama and Clinton won handily as well asl legally.

[Lobo27]

52. In simple terms this comes down to the President being black.

They see a power that has been on their side since the inception of this nation fading from their hands.
They've openly called him a fraud... Called him a muslim just to get people scared... Marxist, Communist and other crap. Sad that people like that are in government, but that is the reality we live in...

Just imagine if a Latino ever becomes president, well democrat that is Latino....

[Snake Plissken]

53. They refuse to accept the legitimacy of the President, but accept their gerrymandered legitimacy

Their drinking water must be supplied with lead pipes