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madokie

(51,076 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 04:51 AM Oct 2013

Are You Drinking One Cup of Coffee Too Many?

Study Says Overconsumption Could Send You to an Early Death
Evidence suggests four cups a day or more may shorten your lifespan.

Over the years, there has been an extensive health debate over whether coffee is really good or bad for our bodies, with strong arguments and research coming from both sides of the fence. Some research suggests that coffee can prevent strokes, delay the onset of diabetes and heart disease. Other findings indicate it might lead to some forms of cancer and adversely affect the metabolism.

The most recent study from the Mayo Clinic published on August 15 reveals that drinking more than 28 cups a week can harm your health considerably, with those consuming more than four cups a day twice as likely to die than those who are non-drinkers.

Based on data collected from the Aerobic Center Longitudinal Study, the research measured the coffee consumption habits and lifestyles of almost 45,000 people ages between 20 and 87 years over a 17-year period.

http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/are-you-drinking-one-cup-coffee-too-many-study-says-overconsumption-could-send-you

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Are You Drinking One Cup of Coffee Too Many? (Original Post) madokie Oct 2013 OP
These studies often strike me as poorly-designed. David__77 Oct 2013 #1
Yes... one can only imagine how many confounding factors are associated with extremely high coffee hlthe2b Oct 2013 #2
As a heavy coffee drinker Im going with this study..... bowens43 Oct 2013 #3
maybe those who are more likely to drink 4 cups or more also have more stress JI7 Oct 2013 #4
Well no one would say I died young if I died tomorrow malaise Oct 2013 #5
You and me both hobbit709 Oct 2013 #10
Most of the rain is gone malaise Oct 2013 #11
Are they talking dainty 6 oz cups, or the tankards I drink in the morning... GreenEyedLefty Oct 2013 #6
My Granny was a "coffee hound" Freddie Oct 2013 #7
That sounds like a lot of people in my family. Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #8
We just bought a new stove top percolator curlyred Oct 2013 #14
My grandmother would just put a handful of grounds in a pan of water and boil it for a while. Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #21
WE use to call that "hobo" coffee. demosincebirth Oct 2013 #34
Then I should have died 10 years ago. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #9
I think the caffeine keeps your body going, even after you're gone. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2013 #15
LOL. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #22
Do they give awards out around here for funny and good posts, Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #31
I'll stick with my pot a day. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #12
Most of a pot a day for me madokie Oct 2013 #13
I'm on my third week of caffeine withdrawal. randome Oct 2013 #16
two or three pots a day over the last few years reddread Oct 2013 #17
I don't trust these studies. They are all over the place and change weekly. ejpoeta Oct 2013 #18
Not wagging my finger at you... randome Oct 2013 #19
Bob Marley's coffee song malaise Oct 2013 #20
Oh Malaise. At the supermarket the other day I saw 'Marley Brand Coffee' Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #25
LOL malaise Oct 2013 #26
Some of the beans are Jamaican so I too will try it sometime. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #30
There are entire cultures that don't drink coffee, so it should be super easy to Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #23
I swear a different coffee article comes out every week. Brickbat Oct 2013 #24
They don't mention anything about the subjects being smokers, non-smokers, or Zorra Oct 2013 #27
"Twice as likely to die" !? roody Oct 2013 #28
Yup and we're all going to do that very thing madokie Oct 2013 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Oct 2013 #32
I caught that too ... oldhippie Oct 2013 #33
Men under 55 were twice as likely to die (in a given year) if they were heavy coffee drinkers. dawg Oct 2013 #36
1? whttevrr Oct 2013 #35

David__77

(23,421 posts)
1. These studies often strike me as poorly-designed.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 04:58 AM
Oct 2013

If the study is really making the leap to state that associated equals causation, then there is a problem here. There are all sorts of associations in which there is no causation, or the direction of causality is unclear.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
2. Yes... one can only imagine how many confounding factors are associated with extremely high coffee
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:12 AM
Oct 2013

intake--beyond lack of sleep, poor diet, no exercise, concomitant stimulant, cigarette, or other drug use..... Any number of risky health potentials might be at play..

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
3. As a heavy coffee drinker Im going with this study.....
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:27 AM
Oct 2013
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/coffee-drinkers-may-live-longer/

The data showed that the more coffee a person consumed, the less likely he or she was to die from a number of health problems, including diabetes, heart disease, respiratory disease, stroke, infections and even injuries and accidents.

Over all, the risk of dying during the 14-year study period was about 10 percent lower for men and about 15 percent lower for women who drank anywhere from two cups to six or more cups of coffee a day.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
4. maybe those who are more likely to drink 4 cups or more also have more stress
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:27 AM
Oct 2013

don't get enough sleep and other issues which contribute to early death.

but someone who is mostly healthy but still drinks a lot of coffee would be ok.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
5. Well no one would say I died young if I died tomorrow
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:36 AM
Oct 2013

I love coffee and have three cups a day all before noon. Maybe five times a year I have coffee after dinner. I'm going down with my blue mountain

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
6. Are they talking dainty 6 oz cups, or the tankards I drink in the morning...
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:34 AM
Oct 2013

If it's the latter, I only have 2 cups a day.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
7. My Granny was a "coffee hound"
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:35 AM
Oct 2013

Drank it all day. Lived to be 92, her mind clear to the end. She started me drinking it as a kid. None of that fancy stuff, she drank Maxwell House made in a stovetop percolater.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
8. That sounds like a lot of people in my family.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:45 AM
Oct 2013

Most drank several cups of strong black coffee daily and lived into their 90's with few health problems.

curlyred

(1,879 posts)
14. We just bought a new stove top percolator
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:31 AM
Oct 2013

Because we couldn't find a decent coffee pot. We use either the French press or the percolator.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
21. My grandmother would just put a handful of grounds in a pan of water and boil it for a while.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:34 AM
Oct 2013

I swear you could stand a spoon up in a cup of her coffee. She used to refer to weak coffee as "buffalo water".

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
15. I think the caffeine keeps your body going, even after you're gone.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:35 AM
Oct 2013

I date my death somewhere around 1996, but I had enough of a caffeine surplus built up by then to keep me somewhat ambulatory. I'm a coffee zombie.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
12. I'll stick with my pot a day.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:28 AM
Oct 2013

And two eggs every morning. I don't have time to read these studies that seem the change every week.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. I'm on my third week of caffeine withdrawal.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:36 AM
Oct 2013

It's been an interesting experience.

For a few days I had flu-like symptoms but they passed. I had some coffee at Starbucks last week but I didn't much enjoy it. It's the kind of drug -like tobacco, soda, alcohol, etc.- where, if you don't partake every day, it loses its allure.

At least that's how it was with me.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
17. two or three pots a day over the last few years
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:38 AM
Oct 2013

down to one pot a day, most days lately.
i think it would kill me a lot faster if i tried not drinking it.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
18. I don't trust these studies. They are all over the place and change weekly.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:16 AM
Oct 2013

Maybe if some consensus formed.... but there is no consensus. I drink 2-3 cups in the morning. Generally 2 before the kids get up. Unless I am cold or have a cold. Then I drink more. The warm drink helps my congestion. I am not sure if the coffee is so much the issue as what you put in it. I put 2 cream, 2 sugars in mine. I am sure that is worse than the coffee. I don't quite know how they can link coffee drinking with health issues. Seems there could be a number of causes. I have a weight problem.... I don't get enough exercise. I sure as heck don't get enough sleep. I have a family history of health problems like cancer, diabetes.... How can you pinpoint one factor in health problems when so many people have so many different possibilites.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. Not wagging my finger at you...
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:31 AM
Oct 2013

...but coffee is simply unnecessary. I think the more unnecessary things you put into your bloodstream, the more 'polluted' you make it.

Of course just about any food preparation we do is unnecessary but coffee can easily be cut from the equation and things actually level out more.

I'm sleeping better without caffeine in my system.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. Oh Malaise. At the supermarket the other day I saw 'Marley Brand Coffee'
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:46 AM
Oct 2013

they label the roast with cutesy names taken from Bob's songs 'Get Up Stand Up' Morning Roast and that sort of thing. It felt funny but if it is useful to the local economy there then it is good...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
30. Some of the beans are Jamaican so I too will try it sometime.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:09 AM
Oct 2013

It's the best of coffees, that Blue Mountain coffee. Too spendy for the pure stuff here of course!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. There are entire cultures that don't drink coffee, so it should be super easy to
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:41 AM
Oct 2013

demonstrate that certain disease and early death is more prevalent among heavy coffee drinkers and those who drink none at all. The US has a major religious minority that abstains. Should be easy to show the differences statistically.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
27. They don't mention anything about the subjects being smokers, non-smokers, or
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:59 AM
Oct 2013

former smokers.

Shouldn't this be a prinmary consideration in assessing the data?

Response to roody (Reply #28)

dawg

(10,624 posts)
36. Men under 55 were twice as likely to die (in a given year) if they were heavy coffee drinkers.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

Which could be because they were up and doing things as opposed to being in bed or sitting on the couch.

It says nothing about the effect on average lifespan or the effect on mortality for older heavy coffee drinkers. Sounds like an incomplete study that shows an interesting correlation but does nothing to explain it.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
35. 1?
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:55 AM
Oct 2013

Bwah ha ha ha...

I have a 24 oz. Mug with Santa on it. But I only drink 2 "cups" a day... LOL! Now that I think about it, I do go through a lot of Half n Half and Honey...

Has anybody tried the Starbucks glazed old fashioned donut?

Next you people are going to tell me smoking is bad for me too, right?

Screw it, it just means less money that I need to hoard for 'retirenent'.

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