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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:14 AM Oct 2013

The only downside I see for Democrats in this mess is the TV false equivalency.

We are polling in the 70s. Obama's approval is north of 50. Congress(R) has a 13% approval.

All good stuff.

But then there's that damned liberal media, spinning shit. To hear the yakking class on the topic, you'd think that Dems and Rs made a suicide pact to work together to shut it down. The media is repeating the same spew that comes from the likes of Marsha Fucking Blackburn.

The only thing I wish for (apart from political sanity) is a stronger voice from our side. Yes, I know that whoever on our side is speaking is saying the right things. The problem is volume and volume. They need to sound louder and tougher (Volume 1). And they need to be on TV more (Volume 2). Wall to wall, if possible. They need to be seen as FIGHTING. Fighting FOR the people and fighting AGAINST political terrorists.

We need to hear our side start to sound like tough guys.

An enemy that can't be overlooked is the media. In my view, they are very unhelpful right now. Hence my call for better/different optics from our side.




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The only downside I see for Democrats in this mess is the TV false equivalency. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2013 OP
Agreed, that is why Heather MC Oct 2013 #1
They are sure beating that dead horse, aren't they? SoCalDem Oct 2013 #2
Since the media wo't do its job, we need to do it for them. Stinky The Clown Oct 2013 #7
Yes the false equivalency el_bryanto Oct 2013 #3
The Republican made this mess. C_U_L8R Oct 2013 #4
They're on the record planning it in advance, so how is that the Dem's fault? Waiting For Everyman Oct 2013 #5
Well, there's always two sides to a story. longship Oct 2013 #6
 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
1. Agreed, that is why
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:19 AM
Oct 2013

I am post Rachael Maddow's show from last night on every website forum and chat room
but as we know People who want to remain brainwashed sheep will do that no matter what

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
2. They are sure beating that dead horse, aren't they?
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:20 AM
Oct 2013

THAT id the "story" folks.. The MEDIA created the tea party juggernaut.. The MEDIA giggles, laughs & jokes about these things and turns them into entertainment...while they just repeat talking points.

What they should be doing is reporting on how false those talking points are, and how "BOTH SIDES" are NOT obstructing...

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
7. Since the media wo't do its job, we need to do it for them.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 10:56 AM
Oct 2013

While "we" can do it on a one to one basis as we meet people, our elected political team are the "WE" who *need* to do it.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. Yes the false equivalency
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013

It's hard to fight but on top of what you suggest, we need to sound like tough guys in our own workplaces and families and friends. Some of you are lucky enough that you have no conservative friends, but if you do have friends from all sides of the aisle, tell them what's going on. Tell them that the Republicans have tried to defund and delay the Affordable Care Act time and time again and haven't succeeded. And now they are trying to do it through hostage taking.

Bryant

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
4. The Republican made this mess.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:26 AM
Oct 2013

They need to clean it up.

There is nothing to negotiate.

A 4 year old can even understand this.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
5. They're on the record planning it in advance, so how is that the Dem's fault?
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 09:50 AM
Oct 2013

Sen. Mike Lee's letter and the GOPers' "Williamsburg Accord" are two things which both show this was planned by them, and only them, and that is all abundantly on the record, referenced in lots of articles. A Google search on either term turns up lots of them, these are only a few.


GOP’s Obamacare Shutdown Caucus? August 22, 2013
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/gops-obamacare-shutdown-caucus/

David Vitter signs GOP letter threatening government shutdown without repeal of ObamaCare July 31, 2013
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/07/david_vitter_signs_on_to_repub.html

GOP Divides On Whether To Shut Down The Government Over Obamacare Funding July 29, 2013
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/07/29/gop-divides-on-whether-to-shut-down-the-government-over-obamacare-funding/

GOP: Crazy Like Foxes by Digby (references several other articles about this)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023765749

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