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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepukes are hoping that if they hold out they can get Reid to Fold.
The same question keeps popping up: Why doesnt Speaker John Boehner just pass a clean continuing resolution to fund the government? Its a ubiquitous query at the Capitol, and it was asked many times this afternoon as House Republicans left their closed-door conference meeting. But most Republicans, when pressed by reporters, rolled their eyes. They know what Boehner knows: A clean CR has never been an option. Peter King of New York and his allies may want one, but the leadership privately believes itd almost certainly raise tensions within the ranks and cripple their negotiating position.
Instead, the leadership is digging in for an extended impasse with Senate Democrats. Based on my latest conversations with insiders, their plan isnt to eventually whip Republicans toward a clean CR and back down after a few days of messaging the shutdown, as some have believed; its to keep fighting, and, in the process, preserve the House GOPs fragile unity and maybe, if theyre lucky, win a concession from Senate majority leader Harry Reid.
But that unity, more than anything, is critical for Boehner, especially as the debt limit nears. Per his allies, his fear is, if he brings up a clean CR, hed be seen as conceding to Reid, whos seen as the villain of villains within the House GOP. Thirty to forty conservatives would likely revolt against such a maneuver, and so would their backers in the conservative movement. In the press, hed likely be cheered for a profile in courage; within the House, the decision would be seen by his critics on the right as a betrayal of the highest order. There is nothing they detest more than the idea of caving, and Boehner knows that.
Now, Boehner is aware that, on paper, potentially more than 100 House Republicans would be open to a clean CR should he bring one to the floor. But the internal chaos such a move could cause could be devastating, and with a major debt-limit battle approaching, he wont let a CR vote divide his conference. Thats also why, on Monday, he took to the floor to personally whip the rule vote for his final CR proposal. He wanted to make sure King wasnt creating a stir with his clean-CR pitch, and he wanted to remind members that sticking together was the key to surviving a showdown.
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http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/360122/holding-firm-robert-costa
brucefan
(1,549 posts)Since his nickname is"The Folder"
cali
(114,904 posts)All signs are that he won't.
earthside
(6,960 posts)It may be hard to believe, but this fight is really, really pumping-up the extreme radical Repuglican-Tea Party faction.
From what I am hearing and reading from right-wing acquaintances, relatives ... and on right-wing web sites, radio, etc., this is rapidly being perceived by the fascist element as perhaps their best opportunity to stage what effectively would be a coup.
I think the mainstream media and Democrats have been way too benevolent towards Boehner -- he is a Gingrich acolyte, he was a chief instigator of the so-called check kiting scandal back in the 1980s -- I think Boehner is fully with the House Tea Party cadre.
Costa in the article is correct -- there isn't going to be a 'clean' CR presented in the House.
These Repuglicans are heading straight towards the debt ceiling deadline with two objectives: capitulation by Pres. Obama and the Senate for the Ryan budget and/or the evisceration of the ACA ... or to crash the economy and the federal government with the expectation that finally Pres. Obama and the Democrats will be blamed and totally discredited.
I have begrudgingly even come to the conclusion that violence would be acceptable to this bunch if it furthered their quest for power.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)this a.m. They are going for the whole enchilada. Want to push together the time frame for Budget and the Debt Ceiling for the Grand Compromise. Said that if they hold out for the Budget they can move up the Debt Ceiling and get it all done in less time.
Rigell is Repug from Virginia...and has a lot of military in his district.
We shall see. Also, according to Bloomberg Business... the heads of Goldman-Sachs,(Vampire Squid, Loyd Blankfein) CitiBank, and JP Morgan (Jamie Diamon) are on their way to meeting with President Obama. Obama is hoping to have them apply pressure to the Repug Congresscritters they donated to. I wondered if Jamie will ask PBO to intervene with Holder at Justice on JP Morgan investigations in a trade for his cracking Congresscritters heads for dropping their demands.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dragged into this by the Tea Party.
They're the suicide bombers, and he's bin Laden.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)horizon. Checks and balances don't seem to be working here.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)I just don't think they think they can afford the political fallout that's coming. I don't believe they have a long game to play.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Obamacare is the smoke screen. They want starved government. The shut down is exactly what they wanted all along. They planned for it. They think it is a good thing. The longer they hold out, the happier their owners will be.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)They've cleverly whipped it up as the ACA that's supposedly their problem with the budget. They are very good at smokescreening what they do... Been at it for decades and have much help from their Think Tanks, Wall Street and their powerful benefactors.
Drunk with Power and Drunk with Booze... Hopefully they have reached (or staggered) too far this time...but, I'm not optimistic.