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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:00 PM Oct 2013

Mia Farrow suggests that son Ronan Farrow might be Frank Sinatra’s

Mia Farrow when asked if Ronan (officially, her one biological child with Woody Allen) was actually fathered by Frank Sinatra, the short-term first husband she tells Vanity Fair was the love of her life: “We never really split up.” Hmmm. Are you seeing it? We’re not really seeing it. Actually. . . yeah, maybe around the eyes, now that you mention it. And the nose. Possibly the jaw and mouth. The forehead. Hmmm…

(Nancy Sinatra tells the magazine they consider the 25-year-old Rhodes Scholar and former State Department aide part of the family.) Regardless, the story is a sensational opportunity for the ever-beguiling Farrow family to rehash the drama of 22 years ago, when Allen took up with Farrow’s adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn and Farrow accused her ex of molesting their daughter Dylan, who speaks publicly for the first time: “I was seven. I was doing it because I was scared. I wanted it to stop.” (Allen has continually denied the claims.) Read an excerpt at VF.com: Mia Farrow and Eight of Her Children Speak Out on Their Lives, Frank Sinatra, and the Scandals They’ve Endured

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2013/10/02/mia-farrow-suggests-that-son-ronan-farrow-might-be-frank-sinatras/

Ronan Farrow, who spent 4 years directing a program at the State Department is quite an interesting guy.

Farrow first came to prominence as a child prodigy[19] when at age 11 he became the youngest student to attend Bard College at Simon's Rock in Great Barrington, Massachusetts. Although Simon's Rock specializes in teaching "younger scholars", most of its incoming first-year students are age 16. After receiving his AA degree, Farrow transferred to Bard College in Annandale-on-Hudson, New York, where he moderated in the biology department and ultimately completed his senior thesis project in political science and philosophy. He went on to become the college's youngest graduate ever at age 15.[20]

At age 15, Farrow was accepted into the Yale Law School, in New Haven, Connecticut. However he deferred his admission until the fall of 2006 in order to work as an adviser to Richard Holbrooke, former United States Ambassador to the United Nations, and also to work with the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Holbrooke would later appoint Farrow as a key member of his team upon his return to government as Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan in 2009. Farrow was among the close staffers reported to have been present the night of Holbrooke's death in December 2010. During his time at Yale Law School, he was a summer associate at New York-based law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell. In 2008, he headed a study for the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the Kibera slums of Nairobi, Kenya, which focused on post-traumatic stress disorder stemming from Kenya's election violence.[10]

Advocacy and humanitarian work

From 2001 to 2009, he worked as a UNICEF Spokesperson for Youth in Nigeria, Angola, and Sudan. In 2001, he worked with youth groups and local leaders on the AIDS epidemic in Nigeria. In 2002, he traveled to Angola, assisting in fundraising and addressing United Nations groups on that country's needs in the immediate aftermath of decades of civil war.[2] On June 1, 2006, Ronan Farrow hosted a summit at the United Nations headquarters on ensuring that children are included in the global movement for universal access to AIDS prevention and treatment.[21][22]

Between 2004 and 2006, he worked in the Darfur region of Sudan. His writings on the Darfur conflict, often focusing particularly on child soldiers he interviewed in the region, appeared in Newsday, the Boston Herald, the International Herald Tribune,[23] and The Wall Street Journal. He appeared on MSNBC, ABC, and CNN advocating for the protection of Darfuri refugees.[2] Following on his experiences in Sudan, Farrow toured the United States as a representative of the Genocide Intervention Network, helping to build the student advocacy movement against genocide.[24]

In 2007, he served under the chief counsel of the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs. In April 2008, he accompanied a congressional delegation to the Horn of Africa, during which he authored a column for the Los Angeles Times on Ethiopia's brutal counter-insurgency in the Ogaden desert.[25] On October 4, 2007, Farrow testified before the U.S. Congressional Human Rights Caucus, advocating for increased funding for UN Peacekeeping efforts.[5]

Obama administration appointment

At the State Department since 2009, Farrow has directed the US government's relationship with nongovernmental actors in Afghanistan and Pakistan.[citation needed] His appointment was billed by late Special Envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke as an unprecedented show of commitment by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to the civil society and non-governmental actors playing a critical role in the reconstruction of Afghanistan.[26] At the time of Farrow's appointment, a State Department official speaking on condition of anonymity referred to him as "a friggin' genius," adding that "he’s young but he has a depth of experience that many people twice his age lack."[27]

The Pakistani daily The Nation praised the State Department for selecting Farrow, claiming that “with his undoubtable [sic] access to corridors in Washington, [he] is worth many Haqqanis” (referring to former Pakistani Ambassador to the US Husain Haqqani) and projecting that he would revitalize efforts to combat poverty — “we have the expertise and the energy, and with people like Farrow to bring in business partners, we can do it.”[28]

In his capacity as a State Department official, Farrow has spoken extensively, particularly at universities on the subject of youth engagement.[29][30]

In 2011, he was named one of the top 99 most influential young professionals under 33 years old in foreign policy by The Diplomatic Courier.[31] In fall 2013, he departed his government position to accept a Rhodes Scholarship at Oxford University.[32]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronan_Farrow

overachiever much? (and he's drop dead beautiful as well)

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Mia Farrow suggests that son Ronan Farrow might be Frank Sinatra’s (Original Post) cali Oct 2013 OP
Those blue eyes. Lex Oct 2013 #1
If I had to guess who he looks more like, hands down Sinatra! Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #2
Holy....! louis-t Oct 2013 #7
Yup. Totally agree. nt City Lights Oct 2013 #10
. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #13
The eyes and the smile. jwirr Oct 2013 #23
I want to hear the kid sing!! Rectangle Oct 2013 #32
He looks exactly Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #38
Pix of Mia's eyes..blue, but not as blue as Sinatra? Bryn Oct 2013 #43
And he has his father's hairline Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #50
I don't know about that but one thing's for sure tularetom Oct 2013 #3
+1000 theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #15
Yep, it is the eyes. texanwitch Oct 2013 #4
I'll work on caring about this later. n/t cynatnite Oct 2013 #5
+1 Supersedeas Oct 2013 #41
Yup. HappyMe Oct 2013 #42
The only "care" I can manage is to ask... Demoiselle Oct 2013 #44
+2 madrchsod Oct 2013 #65
I'm sorry, the resemblance is not there at all...I don't know what some people are seeing... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #6
OMG! Parthogenesis! tblue37 Oct 2013 #24
Mia jumps right out at me... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #25
Wow. I can't NOT see Sinatra in this young man. Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #35
I don't see Woody at all either... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #39
Compare his nose to Sinatra's Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #45
I know. Once you see the photos together,it's pretty obvious. pnwmom Oct 2013 #47
He is obviously Sinatra's son from that pic. Ol' Blue Eyes is back. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #8
I agree. That picture shows it all. pnwmom Oct 2013 #46
You're right about that... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #48
Yes -- but he wouldn't be that good looking if Allen were in the mix. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #51
Sure looks like a better version of Frank malaise Oct 2013 #9
Those two share genetic material. Just sayin'... n/t ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2013 #18
Ronan Farrow tweeted in response frogmarch Oct 2013 #11
That made me LOL. nt cyberswede Oct 2013 #55
If his father Jenoch Oct 2013 #12
LOL. nt City Lights Oct 2013 #17
He looks like Woody to me.... Cooley Hurd Oct 2013 #14
Mia's daughter Dylan is still claiming that he molested her when she was seven. pnwmom Oct 2013 #53
sound like woody knew the boy wasn't his maybe huh? elehhhhna Oct 2013 #61
It sure does. Hindsight is 20/20. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #63
oh yeah hooking up with your ex is totally exactly the same as elehhhhna Oct 2013 #60
Or molesting your 7 year old adopted daughter. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #64
I'd like to hear his voice. nt City Lights Oct 2013 #16
The true test: Does he have Frank's pipes or Woody's neuroses? pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #33
Frank would have been about 70 Freddie Oct 2013 #19
There's nothing wildly unusual about a 70 year old man fathering a child. cali Oct 2013 #20
True Freddie Oct 2013 #22
Indeed. I had a cousin born when my uncle was 69 Xithras Oct 2013 #27
I don't doubt it. It probably tickled Nancy Jr. that her dad cheated on Barbara. duffyduff Oct 2013 #30
I thought the article said she was briefly married to Sinatra? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #52
I am not talking about Mia. I am talking about Barbara Marx Sinatra. duffyduff Oct 2013 #54
To be fair, the only thing I know is that Woody Allen was screwing around with IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #56
I am not even that hard on Barbara. I am sure the truth lies somewhere in between. duffyduff Oct 2013 #58
What did Tina rake her over the coals about (generally)? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #59
About her, generally, and her motives. duffyduff Oct 2013 #66
80 year old men father children. nt bluestate10 Oct 2013 #31
didn't Strom Thurmond have one in his 90s ? JI7 Oct 2013 #37
Yup ananda Oct 2013 #21
That is an amazing resemblance and such an accomplished young man. Kudos. Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #26
Mama Mia!!!! longship Oct 2013 #28
Yep, he's Frank's. n/t duffyduff Oct 2013 #29
Interesting...Child Progedy...Child of Celebrities...Child of Priviledge KoKo Oct 2013 #34
Obama ? Clinton ? JI7 Oct 2013 #36
Definitely the fruit of Frank's loins Redford Oct 2013 #40
And this may be why Allen called him "the Bastard." pnwmom Oct 2013 #49
yikes. cali Oct 2013 #57
I know. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #62

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
43. Pix of Mia's eyes..blue, but not as blue as Sinatra?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:53 AM
Oct 2013


Only Frank Sinatra and this Ronan have blue eyes that stand out.

on edit: forgot to add: Woody Allen has brown, brown eyes!

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
44. The only "care" I can manage is to ask...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:13 PM
Oct 2013

Why would she do this to her son? It seems to me that this is his business. And ONLY his business.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. I'm sorry, the resemblance is not there at all...I don't know what some people are seeing...
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:07 PM
Oct 2013

He looks EXACTLY like Mia and no one else...neither "possible" father.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
25. Mia jumps right out at me...
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:09 PM
Oct 2013

In fact, it looks like Mia trying to pass as a man...they are eerily similar.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
35. Wow. I can't NOT see Sinatra in this young man.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:11 AM
Oct 2013

And I certainly can NOT see Woody in him at all. Mia, of course, since that is his mother.

Sinatra 100%. I'd bet on it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. He is obviously Sinatra's son from that pic. Ol' Blue Eyes is back.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:14 PM
Oct 2013

There isn't a shred of Woody Allen in him.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
48. You're right about that...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:16 PM
Oct 2013

But I swear he could be Mia's twin! Or, the way she looked when she was his age.

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
11. Ronan Farrow tweeted in response
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:22 PM
Oct 2013

to the article:

"Listen, we're all *possibly* Frank Sinatra's son."



He sure does look like Frank Sinatra!

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
12. If his father
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:25 PM
Oct 2013

has to be either Allen or Sinatra, I'd say Sinatra.

I read some of the article, and Ronan is frank about his relationship with Allen. Last June he Tweeted "Happy Father's Day - or in my case, my brother-in-law."

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
14. He looks like Woody to me....
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013


That said, knowing that Mia is essentially admitting that she slept w/ Frank while with Woody, I don't feel quite as bad for her as I did before regarding the Woody/Soon Yi relationship.

The whole thing sounds like a plot to a Woody movie...

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
53. Mia's daughter Dylan is still claiming that he molested her when she was seven.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

I think if the molestation accusations had happened more recently, he would have been treated very differently than he was in the 90's. He's a creep.

From a Vanity fair article in 1992, when Ronan was named Satchel:


http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211

No such favoritism was shown toward four-and-a-half-year-old Satchel, Woody’s own son by Mia. Father and son seemed to have been allergic to each other from the start. Mia told friends that Woody appeared to be disturbed by her cesarean, from which she took a long time to recover; he was aghast at her nursing, particularly at a tube device that carried milk from a bottle down next to her nipple during the first week to give the baby formula when her own milk didn’t come in immediately, as well as at the fact that Satchel wasn’t fully weaned until he was two and a half. She said that Woody referred to the baby, who cried a lot, as “the little bastard,” and that once, when Satchel kicked Woody, Woody twisted Satchel’s leg until he screamed, and said, “Do that again and I’ll break your legs.” On another occasion, Satchel poked Dylan in the eye in Woody’s presence. Woody scooped up the little girl, cradled her in his arms, and railed obscenely at Satchel. “I just don’t buy it when a parent becomes so constantly angry at such a little boy,” says Casey Pascal, who witnessed the scene. Pascal, Mia’s friend since boarding-school days in England, also has a seven-year-old, plus twins Satchel’s age, and often visits Mia both in the country and in the city. “Woody clearly said he wanted a girl. Satchel was wrong from the beginning for him.”

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
60. oh yeah hooking up with your ex is totally exactly the same as
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:59 PM
Oct 2013

bonking your stepdaughter. totally.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
19. Frank would have been about 70
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:57 PM
Oct 2013

When this (allegedly) happened. And cheating on Barbara. Hmmmm.
I read in the same article that daughter Nancy and her mom Nancy Sr. have a warm and close relationship with Mia and Ronan.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
27. Indeed. I had a cousin born when my uncle was 69
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:20 PM
Oct 2013

His girlfriend (later wife, now widow) was 40 at the time.

Testosterone levels drop and things become less effective, but there is no male equivalent to menopause and men can father children right up until they die of old age.

Note that there's a difference between "possible" and "good idea". My cousin was only 7 years old when my uncle passed away. It's hard to explain to a little kid that his dad lived a "long life", when the kid got to spend so little of that life with him. The death of a parent is devastating to a child whether that parent is 26 or 76. When you have children at that age, you're all but guaranteeing that they're going to experience that kind of pain before they get into full adulthood.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
30. I don't doubt it. It probably tickled Nancy Jr. that her dad cheated on Barbara.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:14 PM
Oct 2013

There is EPIC bad blood between Sinatra's kids and Barbara.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
52. I thought the article said she was briefly married to Sinatra?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:26 PM
Oct 2013

So, how could anyone have cheated on anyone?

Yup - wikipedia confirms, he was married to Mia Farrow (m. 1966–1968) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_sinatra

And over on *her* page, we have this tidbit: "In 1987, Farrow gave birth to their son Satchel O'Sullivan Farrow,[31] later known as Ronan Farrow. However, in a 2013 interview with Vanity Fair, Farrow stated that Ronan could "possibly" be the biological child of her first husband Frank Sinatra, with whom she claims to have "never really split up." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Farrow#Personal_life

Got it now - they might have been "playing" twenty years after their divorce, which means they were either running around behind their significant others' backs, or everyone had some kind of open thing happening.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
54. I am not talking about Mia. I am talking about Barbara Marx Sinatra.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:30 PM
Oct 2013

They married in 1976 and stayed together until he died in 1998.

The inference with Mia is that she rekindled the affair, thus Frank cheated on Barbara.

The son is something like 25 years old, so that would mean Mia was sleeping with Frank while he was married to Barbara.

Barbara was known to keep Frank on a short leash, but it sounds like it wasn't short enough. There was NO "open marriage" relationship when Barbara was married to Frank. It was as closed as you can get.

Frank's kids really liked Mia Farrow despite her being nearer to their age than their dad's, as noted in Tina's memoir, and they detested Barbara as a golddigger.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
56. To be fair, the only thing I know is that Woody Allen was screwing around with
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:33 PM
Oct 2013

someone who had been taught to think of him as a father figure = icky.

I think Mia is pretty amazing with her adoption lifestyle.

I wish all of them the best; I obviously don't know enough to make any judgments on the situation.



(But he is a handsome guy. )

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
58. I am not even that hard on Barbara. I am sure the truth lies somewhere in between.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:39 PM
Oct 2013

I read Barbara's autobiography and Tina's memoirs. Tina raked Barbara over the coals, while Barbara didn't really mention the kids at all in her book. I think she decided to make the point if you can't say anything nice...that sort of thing.

The Woody Allen thing, I am not really sure what the truth is. The disloyalty though is very, very, very hard to take.

He is still married to Soon-Yi. She is in her early forties now.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
59. What did Tina rake her over the coals about (generally)?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:42 PM
Oct 2013

And if the step-mom couldn't find anything nice to say about her step-kids, that kind of says a lot, too.

Multiple marriages are rough on folks. The power struggle over who gets priority in the family structure can get UGLY.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
66. About her, generally, and her motives.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:22 PM
Oct 2013

If I remember correctly, it also didn't help Barbara kept Frank's kids away from him in his final days.

I'd have to go back and look at Tina's book, but it is in storage.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
21. Yup
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:02 PM
Oct 2013

I never thought he looked anything close to Woody Allen.

I can see that he could be Sinatra's.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
34. Interesting...Child Progedy...Child of Celebrities...Child of Priviledge
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:11 PM
Oct 2013

What else is new?

He does look more like Frank than Woody...but, then he has Mia's hair color. He's quite handsome. Yet...somehow there's more there than where this goes, me thinks.

But...hey! Whatever floats his boat. If he was so good that Holbrooke took him under his wing...what else can one say? Except that so many of these exceptional children seem to end up in places of power. Are there no other Exceptional Children from "non famous/entitled families who seem to get recognition? Maybe it's just not for the MSM to get involved in reporting about them.

Still fun stuff...for speculation.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
49. And this may be why Allen called him "the Bastard."
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:16 PM
Oct 2013

I think if the child molestation charges (with regard to the girl Dylan) had come out now instead of in the 90's, the public reaction would have been very different. It was just too shocking then for most people to believe.

(Note: Ronan used to be named Satchel.)

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211

No such favoritism was shown toward four-and-a-half-year-old Satchel, Woody’s own son by Mia. Father and son seemed to have been allergic to each other from the start. Mia told friends that Woody appeared to be disturbed by her cesarean, from which she took a long time to recover; he was aghast at her nursing, particularly at a tube device that carried milk from a bottle down next to her nipple during the first week to give the baby formula when her own milk didn’t come in immediately, as well as at the fact that Satchel wasn’t fully weaned until he was two and a half. She said that Woody referred to the baby, who cried a lot, as “the little bastard,” and that once, when Satchel kicked Woody, Woody twisted Satchel’s leg until he screamed, and said, “Do that again and I’ll break your legs.” On another occasion, Satchel poked Dylan in the eye in Woody’s presence. Woody scooped up the little girl, cradled her in his arms, and railed obscenely at Satchel. “I just don’t buy it when a parent becomes so constantly angry at such a little boy,” says Casey Pascal, who witnessed the scene. Pascal, Mia’s friend since boarding-school days in England, also has a seven-year-old, plus twins Satchel’s age, and often visits Mia both in the country and in the city. “Woody clearly said he wanted a girl. Satchel was wrong from the beginning for him.”

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