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The monuments in Washington, D.C. -- and particularly the World War II memorial -- have become a symbol for the right to decry the government shutdown, even labeling the National Park Service shutdown "shock troops" designed to toss veterans out at will as they approach the memorial.
On Tuesday, Rep. Steve Palazzo (R-MS) reportedly opened the barricade of the World War II Memorial to let a group of veterans in. Rep. Steve King (R-IA) helped by "distract(ing) a police officer" to sneak the veterans in, according to a reporter on the scene. Even outgoing tea partier Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) made an appearance.
"President Obama is so fixated on forcing Obamacare on the American people that he's even willing to deny World War II veterans the right to access the memorial they have earned through their heroic service," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said in a statement on Wednesday.
Republicans say President Barack Obama has been so obsessed with pushing a governmental shutdown that he's refusing to allow anyone into the national parks and monuments (even though the National Park Service said on Wednesday that veterans would be allowed to visit the World War II memorial).
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/parks-and-museums
See how that works? All these terrorists have to do is make an accusation that goes unchallenged, and they get people to jump.
This is why no one should let up on these fuckers.
Republican shutdown is not playing well in Peoria. Or Kansas City. Or Sacramento. Or ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023767797
By Steve Benen
Republican messaging surrounding their decision to shut down the government is a bit of a mess, burdened by an unhealthy amount of cognitive dissonance. The party wants Americans to believe that Democrats should be blamed for the shutdown, and that the shutdown is a conservative triumph that Republicans were right to embrace. The GOP argues that conservatives fought for this shutdown -- and now boast about it -- but really didn't want it...Republicans would have the public believe that the shutdown doesn't much matter, since the federal government is an inherently awful burden that Americans neither wants nor needs. The problem, of course, is that the GOP's shutdown is causing real harm to real people, and every tragic consequence is a reminder, not only of the far-right's party's callous indifference, but of the importance of government itself.
Ned Resnikoff reported yesterday, for example, on several hundred preschool-aged children who can no longer go to a Head Start center in Alabama because its 240 employees have been furloughed without pay.
The Wall Street Journal had a related item on the shutdown's real-world effects:
At the National Institutes of Health, nearly three-quarters of the staff was furloughed. One result: director Francis Collins said about 200 patients who otherwise would be admitted to the NIH Clinical Center into clinical trials each week will be turned away. This includes about 30 children, most of them cancer patients, he said.
Got that? Children with cancer will be turned away from NIH clinical trials. Why? Because House Republicans won't take a center-right budget deal that enjoys bipartisan support.
On Fox News yesterday, a prominent far-right pundit said the shutdown is irrelevant because the "worst thing that happens is some museums close." Another prominent far-right radio host boasted yesterday that the shutdown is "a dream for conservatives."
Yes, for others, it's a nightmare.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/10/02/20785375-the-consequences-of-callousness
ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/10/02/2722981/republicans-accuse-harry-reid-of-not-caring-about-kids-with-cancer/
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023770095
Rex
(65,616 posts)Issa SO should be in jail right now. Just another fucking criminal.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Impeach!!1!!!1(one)!.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Moronic. The GOP is on the ropes. Much to the chagrin of some.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)and blames Obama, who would have guessed. . .
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)since when have we seen America negotiating with terrorist.
49 terrorist holding the American economy hostage, this should be the headline across this country.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Although, whoever is advising that lot on their messaging is doing a brilliant job. It takes a tremendous amount of cynicism to follow said advice, but again - they never cease to amaze.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Wow! Viet Nam vets are in their 60's and 70's. Cant' imagine 90 and 100 year olds swarming Washington DC.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Honor Flight sends delegations of Veterans several times a yeat at no cost to them, so yes, there are plenty ready and willing on waiting lists to see the memorial.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Honor Flight is one of a handful of charities the Mrs. anf I donate to annually.
We also help out twice yearly at a fundraiser and a Homecomming at the airport for our Veterans after they return from their trip.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)944.56 per day. It's estimated that by 2036 all veterans who served in WWII will have passed.
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/vastatsfinal3.pdf
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/honor/wwii-veterans-statistics.html
Response to notadmblnd (Reply #16)
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Earth_First
(14,910 posts)According to your own link provided, it clearly states:
"Today, that number stands at just over a million."
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/honor/wwii-veterans-statistics.html
According WikiPedia that number stands at 1,462,809 as of November 2012.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_U.S._veterans_of_World_War_II
So where you get your number of 344,748 on 2007 is clearly wrong.
I don't get what you are trying to prove with your pissing match on my response.
As someone who donates time and effort to Honor Flight, what's the deal?
Why?
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)My first response to the OP I will admit was a bit flip, But I said nothing disrespectful about veterans. Then when you answered me, I got curious and went looking. I posted the links and yes there is a discrepency in the number of vets in the article and the number of vets on the graph. However I didn't just pull the info out of my ass. And when I posted a response that the information was interesting... Well, you know how you reacted.
I don't think I deserved the reply I got from you. It was uncivil- and that is something I was not to you.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...on the WWII Memorial being closed:
That area has a large water/pool area that IMO could pose a drowning hazard to unsupervised tourists, especially children or disabled perdons. Wouldn't the federsl government face liability if they hsd NOT blocked entry?
I ask this as the daughter of a WWII vetersn who never got his chance to see his memorial. I am GLAD those veterans went on in...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)It could be something as simple as somebody slipping in with an ice cream cone and dropping it, creating a slip-and-fall hazard.
With the 330 NPS employees staffing the National Mall and memorials furloughed, their safety, maintenance and other responsibilities are not covered. Even the outdoor memorials are not self-operating. It takes the work of dedicated public employees to keep them open. (And my experience with NPS staff at the Mall's memorials is that they are exceptionally dedicated.)
In the case of the WWII Veterans Memorial, NPS is permitting the vet Honor Flight visitors to be there under its existing rules for public political demonstrations (and there are Park Police on duty).
I'm glad they got to go in, too. Hell, I would have removed the barricades for them!