Savannah Guthrie, with all due respect, please go fuck yourself.

[Stinky The Clown]

She's running Stretch's gig this week and is even worse than Stretch.

As but one example: Ron Paul's stupid kid was on saying the House was giving "clean CRs" that the White House is refusing to sign. When she does a tepid attempt to call him on his obvious lie, he speaks over her and says they have given clean CRs for NIH, for this, for that. She calls him out again. He speaks oevr her again. She lets it go. When you hear the exchange, it is obvious that Paul's lies were what would be heard and were what one could use for sound bites.

This tactic lets the liars get their lies out while the tepid press by the complicit media gives them cover to say they tried to ask about the lie. Meanwhile, the LowInfos get only the lie.

Yes, Ms. Guthrie, please go fuck yourself. You arer part of the problem with your gross incompetence. Your moral malpractice.

[SheilaT]

1. Fascinating.

Who is Savannah Guthrie? Who is Stretch? What is this gig?

I shouldn't have to point out that not everyone watches or reads or listens to exactly the same things you do, so a little context would be good.

Unless you have Asperger's, because Aspies often start right out with something completely without context, and so if that's the case I apologize for not being more understanding.

[Stinky The Clown]

6. Run a DU poll and see how many don't know who "Stretch" is, particularly in a conversation . . . .

. . . . about television news.

Your comment about me having Asperger's is disgusting. Shame on you.

[JDPriestly]

7. I've never heard of Stretch or the other person either.

I do not have TV. Please explain. What network or channel? What is you post about?

[anneboleyn]

14. I don't know who Stretch is or the other person, so yeah, maybe the channel

[Whisp]

29. Stretch is that Meet the press regular guy

the white haired moron, I forget his name. Gregory! David Gregory the asshole.
I believe it was the Chimperor who first called him Stretch.

[SCVDem]

19. I am well informed

Yet I also have no idea what show this is referencing.

[SheilaT]

18. Quite frankly, your post went on in a

totally context-free way that simply reminded me.

And I have a son with Asperger's.

Plus, I'm not quite the only person here who hasn't a clue who these people are.

[PCIntern]

24. So if the only tool you have is a hammer,

then every problem is a nail.

Your name-calling is "not nice". You owe the poster of the OP an apology.

[SheilaT]

25. I'm sorry that he writes posts in a way

that reminds me of a person with a certain kind of neurological deficit. I'm sure he couldn't help it.

Will that do?

Keep in mind, that a whole lot of others after me also had no idea who he was talking about. Those who have any sense of their audience will generally let them know what they're talking about.

[kestrel91316]

27. You've obviously never read ANY of his other more than 50k posts.

Your lack of social skills makes me think YOU are the one with the "neurological deficit".

[SheilaT]

46. If they are all as context-free as this one is, I guess I haven't.

It is beyond irritating when a poster just jumps into something, blithely assuming that every reader is watching exactly the same show, knows exactly what the relatively obscure references are, and then gets insulted when called on it.

Okay, so even though this was a lot like someone with Asperger's -- and keep in mind I have a son who is an Aspie so I really do know what I'm talking about -- maybe I did cross a line by suggesting he is also one.

But he needs to work on certain basic writing skills, like starting out by giving a clue or two as what exactly he's talking about.

[PCIntern]

28. I have done it myself...

and admit erring, but I do not think that your appellation was appropriate. And I know you know that...

[SheilaT]

50. Not when it's so close to the appellation I used.

[MNBrewer]

36. I have no clue who "Stretch" is

Stretch Armstrong?

[TeamPooka]

49. Stretch is the nickname gwbush gave David Gregory

Many people who follow political journalism call him Stretch now like I call Chris Hayes "lamb chop "

[whopis01]

51. I had no idea who stretch was

and the comment about Aspergers is disgusting.

[kestrel91316]

26. You are disgusting. You need to apologize to Stinky RIGHT EFFING NOW.

[TeamPooka]

48. Seriously

[TeamPooka]

47. Google use it and learn what you don't know instead of putting it on others with insults

Meant to belittle them over your lack of insider jargon.
And if you don't know Guthrie is he cohost of the Today Show,one of the oldest running tv shows and the flagship of NBC, maybe you know nothing about media and should refrain comment on stories like this

[quinnox]

2. rec just for the title alone

[malaise]

3. + 1,000

As usual the ReTHUG Paul was allowed to lie with impunity.
She was awful

[tabasco]

4. When you watch the corporate whore networks ...

what the fuck do you expect to see? Reasoned journalism?

TURN THAT FUCKING SHIT OFF.

[JDPriestly]

8. Just click the button. It's off. When you watch, you support the lies.

If you are going to watch the TV that is mostly funded, scripted and presented by Republicans, if you are going to repeatedly put that Republican junk food into your ears, you might as well vote for Republicans.

[grasswire]

32. that's ridiculous.

So Democrats should abandon the public air waves and just let disinformation and ignorance go unchallenged?

Is that what should happen in America?

[JDPriestly]

44. What alternative do you suggest?

Complaining does no good. The disinformation and ignorance is going on and it is unchallenged.

Not watching the nonsense is good. Get your news from places like Pacifica Radio or newspapers that carry people like Krugman or blogs online.

Yes. I think we should abandon the corporate media.

The corporate media exists for two reasons: 1) to propagandize people to their warped points of vies and 2) to sell products that most of us don't need or can't afford.

Those are the real reasons that the corporate media exists. Until that changes, I watch only the ad-free snippets of their programs that are shown on DU.

Some programs on MSNBC, Bill Maher and Bill Moyers are the only exceptions. I don't miss the rest of the stuff at all.

[spanone]

5. agreed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023794405

[hunter]

9. Add me to the list of people who didn't know who, what, when, or where.

Television is dead to me.

Ours is a DVD player, nothing more.

[grasswire]

37. no wonder we Democrats have so much trouble fighting political ignorance.

Too many of our own team have abandoned the people's air waves to the dark side.

[hunter]

40. Frankly, I think "we the people" should take the public airwaves back...

... and provide free internet for everyone.

Too bad there's too much big corporate money in the way. They think they own us *and* the airwaves.

[madinmaryland]

10. Who the fuck is Stretch?? Stretch Armstrong has a news show? Or do you have the

"Malaise Exception"?

[gopiscrap]

11. Agreed

[totodeinhere]

12. Not everybody had the same take on the interview that you did.

Savannah Guthrie subjected Senator Rand Paul to a series of tough questions about the government shutdown on Sunday's "Meet the Press."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/06/savannah-guthrie-rand-paul-meet-the-press_n_4054169.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics

[Avis]

15. agree

Not usually a fan of hers, but thought she did well.

[tableturner]

23. I agree...

I thought she did a fine job. She didn't just let him off.....she asked twice, eliciting the same totally obvious non answer each time. To go further would have wasted valuable parts of the little time she had to interview him. Plus, to push more, she would have risked looking like she were "mugging" him, and may have helped his cause. In a show like this, it is a tough tight rope to walk for the moderator. It's a complicated situation.

[dhol82]

13. found it

evidently savannah guthrie substituted for david gregory today on meet the press.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-savannah-guthrie-challenges-sen-rand-paul-to-defend-open-mic-moment/

bless the internets.

[anneboleyn]

16. So David Gregory is "Stretch"?

[LibGranny]

17. I thought he was Karl Rove's

"partner"! (dancing)

[tavernier]

21. Dubya's (GWB) name for Gregory (David)

back when he was kkkkarl's (Rove) dance partner. Those of us who were around in those sad times remember the nickname well. Gregory cherished it.

[JoeyT]

20. She should get a sticker for her microphone.

"This machine abets fascists."

[Iwillnevergiveup]

22. I confess

I didn't recognize the nicknames Stinky ascribed to Savannah or Stretch. But, folks, a little levity might be in order. Stinky has a long (often insightful/often hilarious/always direct) posting history here, and that should be acknowledged and respected.

[grasswire]

30. I guess those who lived through the Bush years with us, Stinky...

.....must be at brunch today.

To the rest:

We watch because someone must bear witness.

And then we protest so that the rest of you are made aware of the moral malpractice masquerading as journalism.

[littlewolf]

31. is she related to the folk singer Gurthrie?

and I didn't recognized the nicknames.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

33. The media used to fact check....

Imagine if the big story was how many lies they told in an interview.

[Vashta Nerada]

34. I'd watch that.

And by "watch that", I mean what you wrote in the title of this thread.

[warrant46]

35. Lots of Love in this thread

Hey people we're all on the same side

[grasswire]

38. that's an assumption nt

[warrant46]

39. Well---- its all of that

However the tone and lack of respect, in the discussion is getting strikingly tedious.

But maybe its just me ?

[grasswire]

41. A lot of people seem to be mad at someone who keeps tabs on politics...

....and knows the players and their backgrounds.

And there is nothing inherently righteous about not watching television, IMO, although many seem to think so.

[warrant46]

45. You have a point !!

Thx

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. No clue who Savannah Guthrie or "Stretch" are.

But I did serve on the jury, and saw no reason to hide this post.

[mentalsolstice]

43. Just a bit of info, she's engaged to marry one of the good guys

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2013/05/13/savannah-guthrie-and-mike-feldman-are-engaged/

[fadedrose]

52. But..but she's pretty!!

Who is Stretch?