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Who would be leader of military coup d'etat in the US if shutdown cant be resolved? (Original Post) ErikJ Oct 2013 OP
Two generals were removed this week Sanity Claws Oct 2013 #1
When that happens it usually involves a much smaller military than ours. JHB Oct 2013 #23
an idiot wingzeroday Oct 2013 #2
First you'd need Martial law. That would require hunger...say shutting down the EBT system... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #3
worst case: Keith Alexander grasswire Oct 2013 #4
Maybe thats the reason for his 'Information Dominance Center' ErikJ Oct 2013 #5
And the bastard kicked out Uhura and Sulu, duh! xfundy Oct 2013 #18
and built a Star Wars command center. grasswire Oct 2013 #19
Not Alexander Lurks Often Oct 2013 #11
Alexander Haig. Nt. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #6
He would be Dead Man Walking. Nt TomClash Oct 2013 #7
I'm certain it will be someone with our "Precious Bodily Fluids" foremost in mind. . . Journeyman Oct 2013 #8
While I think a military coup is extremely, extremely unlikely, Lurks Often Oct 2013 #9
Legacy of the Civil War ErikJ Oct 2013 #15
nobody I would support. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #10
Someone whose head should quickly be put on a spike if they are that fucking stupid, BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12
Sec. of State Hagel? Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #13
Patrick Leahy (Pro Tem) Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #14
John Boehner is number three in line within the Constitution. Coyotl Oct 2013 #16
Pat Robertson, slurping protein shakes, protected by the hounds of Hell. xfundy Oct 2013 #17
Let's not even go there quinnox Oct 2013 #20
DUDE! hootinholler Oct 2013 #21
No-one, it wouldn't happen Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #22

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
1. Two generals were removed this week
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:38 PM
Oct 2013

In the back of my mind, I was wondering if there was more to it than the official stories. Then I dismissed the thought because coups are usually led by colonels. They have the loyalty of the rank and file necessary for a military coup.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
23. When that happens it usually involves a much smaller military than ours.
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:47 AM
Oct 2013

The US military has somewhere in the ballpark of 900 generals and admirals, and about 11,500 colonels and naval captains.

Assuming an officer is such a Mr. Popularity with units under his command that they'd follow him in carrying out a coup, it's still mathematically a very small percentage who would have this tight loyalty. Plenty of people who don't.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. worst case: Keith Alexander
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:48 PM
Oct 2013

The Emperor.

He already has military forces at his disposal and is more powerful than the President.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
5. Maybe thats the reason for his 'Information Dominance Center'
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:50 PM
Oct 2013

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that he built at the NSA

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xfundy

(5,105 posts)
18. And the bastard kicked out Uhura and Sulu, duh!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:02 PM
Oct 2013

And Loves him some Checkov, and wishes 'Murrikkka was just like Russia."

And they all burned happily ever after.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
11. Not Alexander
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:21 PM
Oct 2013

He has very few armed troops at his disposal and I doubt those in the combat branches would follow someone from the NSA or CIA or any of the other alphabet intelligence agencies.

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
8. I'm certain it will be someone with our "Precious Bodily Fluids" foremost in mind. . .
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:12 PM
Oct 2013

someone with the "Purity of Essence" girding his loins.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
9. While I think a military coup is extremely, extremely unlikely,
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:17 PM
Oct 2013

It would probably originate at the Army Corps Commander level or the Marine equivalent, although the US Army is moving away for the Corps structure (2 or more divisions under a Lt-General). Basically a senior general with troops directly under his command, not once or twice removed, such as an Army commander or someone on the Joint Chiefs.

It would have to start in either the Army or the Marines as the Air Force & Navy have no significant combat ground troops of their own.

And for those of you paranoid enough to think a military coup could occur, look at where all the major Army & Marine combat ground forces are located. I'll give everybody a hint, mostly in the red states.

Although that is more due to available land or where army bases have been for more then 100 years.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
15. Legacy of the Civil War
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:41 PM
Oct 2013

They had to occupy the South after the war. If the military gets tired of IOU's they might just go get it themselves after the coup.

 
12. Someone whose head should quickly be put on a spike if they are that fucking stupid,
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:23 PM
Oct 2013

but I won't disclose how I really feel.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
17. Pat Robertson, slurping protein shakes, protected by the hounds of Hell.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:59 PM
Oct 2013

"Onward Christian Soldiers" would become the official pledge.

Benny Hinn would be second in command, and any who refuse to or can't "get up out of that wheelchair and WALK!" would be shot immediately for not b'leevin' enough.

Benny would have to wrestle "the button" of nuclear annihilation away from Pat, whose mental faculties, long gone, have eroded into inexistence thanks to leftover "Demoncrat" demons, because, heck, there's still a lot of money to be taken from idiots worldwide.

And then we'd all bow to an ancient Buddhist symbol that has been flopped, or turned backward. Cause that never happened before.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
22. No-one, it wouldn't happen
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:40 AM
Oct 2013

long-term stable democracies with no history or traditions of military rule don't have coups d'etat. (Look at Belgium which went without a government for over a year because there was no party with a parliamentary majority and no coalition agreement.) If the shutdown couldn't be resolved the executive can issue orders for the continued functioning of the government (as has been done before in time of national emergency, actually; see the Civil War); such executive orders might include, for instance, sale of gold reserves held by the Treasury Department/Federal Reserve to provide emergency funding for essential functions absent spending authorisation from Congress.

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