Gun Deaths Since Newtown - 10,000 people...

[DreamGypsy]

... can certainly many more.

From the familiar Slate site, How Many People Have Been Killed by Guns Since Newtown? this morning:

Matched Deaths: 10,022 or more since Newtown

The 10,005 count appeared about 8:00 last night and went up to 10,011 a couple hours later.

9,150 adults, 475 teens, and 177 kids. 8457 males and 1516 females. Some age and gender not reported. All the little stick figure tombstones create quite an impact.

Silence now, from 10,000 people, maybe more...

[Orrex]

1. If only all of those people had been armed

[NYC_SKP]

2. Poverty and hopelessness and depression. Our country is not well.

Most of these deaths are suicides, many others acts of violence.

All indicate a deep-seated pathology of the society.

We need to get better, we need to become healthy again.

[otohara]

3. It Doesn't Help To Have 300 Million

effing guns in this country.

Guns make it so much easier to do those things you mention and more.

[hack89]

4. Yet we have cut our murder rate in half and it continues to decline

so we must be doing something right.

Single payer health care and ending the war on drugs would do more to reduce gun deaths in America than any other actions.

[otohara]

10. Only In America

is this kind of talk even possible.

177 kids killed and we're doing something right?

[hack89]

12. Every year there are fewer and fewer.

besides - I gave you two solutions to reduce gun violence even more.

[NYC_SKP]

5. We need to treat the symptoms and the disease, I agree.

Some of the symptoms are gun love, glorification in the media of violence and gun use, as exhibited by people who buy guns for all the wrong reasons and without a shred of training.

Further, it's said that 65 of the last 67 mass shootings were committed by people with emotional issues (not sure why it wasn't 67 of 67), but it seems we need to do much more to prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands.

It's just not being done. The will at the local level doesn't seem to be there.

Still, I think incremental progress is being made.

Meantime, all the deeper issues like education and health and economic equity need to be addresses, and soon.

[gopiscrap]

8. welcome to DU

[DreamGypsy]

13. Most of the gun deaths listed by Slate are not suicides...

...since Slate is only using news sources which, as they say, "represents only the number of gun deaths that the media can find out about contemporaneously".

In my intermittent perusal of the data the only suicides I have found are those, like Adam Lanza, where the shooter kills him or her self after killing one or more other persons. Since Slate is crowd-sourcing the data, it is possible for an individual who knows of a gun suicide in, for example, her or his community to report that, but it will not appear in the data unless there is a link, say to an online obituary.

If suicides were included the number would be much higher, as Slate estimates:

Using the most recent CDC estimates for yearly deaths by guns in the United States, it is likely that as of today, 10/31/2013, roughly 28,976 people have died from guns in the U.S. since the Newtown shootings.

Forty-there more days until midnight December 13th. so the number of reported gun deaths for a year will be around 11,350 if the rate continues as it has up to now.

[NYC_SKP]

15. This is true, they are crowdsourcing their data.

It makes for a different data-set which is useful if not taken to be the full picture of gun violence.

More data, gathered in different ways, is always better.

[Iggo]

6. Totally acceptable.

Guns are more important than people.

[otohara]

11. Especially In A Few Districts in CO

guns are more important than education, healthcare, the environment, infrastructure, etc. etc.

[napkinz]

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